Mike Carruthers

Do people who have been brainwashed like a Patty Hearst, and when they get out of it, do they ever say, I have no idea why I fell for that? Or do they know, are they aware of what's going on and fall for it anyway because they just seemingly have no choice?

Is there a line between persuasion and brainwashing, or are they two different things, or one is just an extreme version of the other?

Is there a line between persuasion and brainwashing, or are they two different things, or one is just an extreme version of the other?

Is there a line between persuasion and brainwashing, or are they two different things, or one is just an extreme version of the other?

So brainwashing. So when people throw around this idea that, oh, you've been brainwashed because, you know, you're a liberal or a conservative or whatever, that's not really brainwashing. It's just that's what you believe. But, you know, it's not destroying your life and your family doesn't speak to you anymore. I mean, it's just you got to believe something.

So brainwashing. So when people throw around this idea that, oh, you've been brainwashed because, you know, you're a liberal or a conservative or whatever, that's not really brainwashing. It's just that's what you believe. But, you know, it's not destroying your life and your family doesn't speak to you anymore. I mean, it's just you got to believe something.

So brainwashing. So when people throw around this idea that, oh, you've been brainwashed because, you know, you're a liberal or a conservative or whatever, that's not really brainwashing. It's just that's what you believe. But, you know, it's not destroying your life and your family doesn't speak to you anymore. I mean, it's just you got to believe something.

So you believe that and you're entitled.

So you believe that and you're entitled.

So you believe that and you're entitled.

Well, I would think that it's less what you believe as to how you got there that is brainwashing or not brainwashing. It's what happened to you to get you to the point where you now believe what you believe.

Well, I would think that it's less what you believe as to how you got there that is brainwashing or not brainwashing. It's what happened to you to get you to the point where you now believe what you believe.

Well, I would think that it's less what you believe as to how you got there that is brainwashing or not brainwashing. It's what happened to you to get you to the point where you now believe what you believe.

And so do we need to be on guard that people are trying to brainwash us? Or is this really much more of an extreme thing that, you know, unless you're walking into a cult's front door, this is not really something to concern yourself with?

And so do we need to be on guard that people are trying to brainwash us? Or is this really much more of an extreme thing that, you know, unless you're walking into a cult's front door, this is not really something to concern yourself with?

And so do we need to be on guard that people are trying to brainwash us? Or is this really much more of an extreme thing that, you know, unless you're walking into a cult's front door, this is not really something to concern yourself with?

You know, for so many people, I think the idea of being brainwashed is hard to fathom. Like, I can't believe someone would come to believe that or fall for that or join that culture. So it's interesting to get some insight into this. I've been speaking with Rebecca Lamov. She is an historian of science at Harvard and author of the book, The Instability of Truth.

You know, for so many people, I think the idea of being brainwashed is hard to fathom. Like, I can't believe someone would come to believe that or fall for that or join that culture. So it's interesting to get some insight into this. I've been speaking with Rebecca Lamov. She is an historian of science at Harvard and author of the book, The Instability of Truth.

You know, for so many people, I think the idea of being brainwashed is hard to fathom. Like, I can't believe someone would come to believe that or fall for that or join that culture. So it's interesting to get some insight into this. I've been speaking with Rebecca Lamov. She is an historian of science at Harvard and author of the book, The Instability of Truth.

Brainwashing, Mind Control, and Hyperpersuasion. There's a link to her book at Amazon in the show notes. And Rebecca, thanks. Thanks for explaining all this.