Mike Delaney

Yeah. The problem is the Model T still needed to run though. And the fact that they kind of bypassed that was really, really inconvenient to this process. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. The problem is the Model T still needed to run though. And the fact that they kind of bypassed that was really, really inconvenient to this process. Yeah. Yeah.

That play is, it's very common in the private, in the food world right now. It's because there's so much inefficiency that you can, you know, leverage technology. Yeah, that's true. That's true. And then one of the other vulnerabilities of that, though, is as you talked about how some companies don't, you know, they're not necessarily willing to or need to upgrade from the old legacy system.

That play is, it's very common in the private, in the food world right now. It's because there's so much inefficiency that you can, you know, leverage technology. Yeah, that's true. That's true. And then one of the other vulnerabilities of that, though, is as you talked about how some companies don't, you know, they're not necessarily willing to or need to upgrade from the old legacy system.

The problem is, is a lot of those don't have the embedded textures that you would just get even off of.

The problem is, is a lot of those don't have the embedded textures that you would just get even off of.

or even just segmented away from everything else as a critical asset.

or even just segmented away from everything else as a critical asset.

When they plug in some IoT device in the factory, and then, you know, it's all she wrote because now it's plugged into the bigger world and not isolated.

When they plug in some IoT device in the factory, and then, you know, it's all she wrote because now it's plugged into the bigger world and not isolated.

Well, yeah, and this is getting into more of a technical weed, but a lot of the networks inside of these buildings were flat, meaning everything was connected at all levels. They didn't have any staggering levels or like different levels. rooms you could walk into. It was just one open floor plan. That's what I described that networking term.

Well, yeah, and this is getting into more of a technical weed, but a lot of the networks inside of these buildings were flat, meaning everything was connected at all levels. They didn't have any staggering levels or like different levels. rooms you could walk into. It was just one open floor plan. That's what I described that networking term.

That causes the problem is if you don't create these little segments, whether it's your critical or production system or your office in the production area, it becomes so easy for people to hit, just hit one, you're in. But if you have this segmented section, it's almost like Swiss cheese. They can't get to everything. They got to kind of work their way through it.

That causes the problem is if you don't create these little segments, whether it's your critical or production system or your office in the production area, it becomes so easy for people to hit, just hit one, you're in. But if you have this segmented section, it's almost like Swiss cheese. They can't get to everything. They got to kind of work their way through it.

That's why I always say, make it hard for these hackers. Make it hard. Don't make it easy. Don't be an easy target. You want them to struggle. Make them work for their money, literally. Once you start saying that, people are like, oh yeah, we should make this harder.

That's why I always say, make it hard for these hackers. Make it hard. Don't make it easy. Don't be an easy target. You want them to struggle. Make them work for their money, literally. Once you start saying that, people are like, oh yeah, we should make this harder.

But the problem is, and you know this, Mike, that the second you make it harder for the hackers, it becomes harder for everybody else, right?

But the problem is, and you know this, Mike, that the second you make it harder for the hackers, it becomes harder for everybody else, right?

I mean, you know, 16 character, you know, email passwords and 90 day rotation on changing it out. Yeah. However, you know, the average person remembering multiple 16 character combos to put into your It gets to be all tedious. Yes. So then the next thing you know, you walk in their room and it's on the post-it note on their computer. Or it's saved on their laptop.

I mean, you know, 16 character, you know, email passwords and 90 day rotation on changing it out. Yeah. However, you know, the average person remembering multiple 16 character combos to put into your It gets to be all tedious. Yes. So then the next thing you know, you walk in their room and it's on the post-it note on their computer. Or it's saved on their laptop.