Mike Graham

Everything he did basically just turned to shit, you know.

And so when Starmer got in, I mean, I have some sympathy for him, which you'd be surprised to hear, because everything was broken.

There's nothing working.

You know, the Home Office doesn't work.

The NHS doesn't work.

Trains don't work.

The roads are crap.

There's literally nothing.

But they're making it worse, making it far worse.

And so I think people see reform as the only kind of saving grace.

I mean, yes, there's that splinter off to Advance UK and there's the Rupert Lowe people.

But, you know, reform really are the only hope.

And I don't even know if that's going to work.

I think we have to give it a chance.

I think you have to kind of... I mean, I'm not party political.

I never really have been.

I've only voted once in my life, and that was in 1979.

And I voted not for Margaret Thatcher, believe it or not.

I voted for Labour because I was at university at the time.

And so I've never voted because I think, actually, it's a bit like... What's his face?