Mike Graham

But they took it for granted.

The people who came from the Scottish Labour machine, people like George Robertson, had constituencies in Glasgow, some of the poorest places in the world.

And they did nothing for them.

Because they just took it for granted that every day when they went down a polling station, they'd vote Labour.

And then suddenly...

The SNP came up with the idea of independence, and they suddenly went, oh, I know, let's have devolution, that'll be good.

And then they lost control.

And now Labour in Scotland are in a terrible place, you know, not least because Westminster Labour are doing so badly, but because the SNP are now the sort of main power in Scotland, and they're not very good.

But you can see that things can change.

And, you know, if reform manages to bust open the two-party system,

Who knows what happens after that?

Well, Britain, again, it's too far gone for that, to be honest.

I mean, I speak to people who are moving out of London now because London to them has become unrecognizable.

You know, you probably also saw the piece of video from Richmond at the weekend.

We played it out this morning on the show of these two guys.

One's got a hammer smashing in the window of a jewelry shop.

And they literally just tear the window out and just start lobbing a load of jewelry into a bag.

And then they run off down the street.

And yes, of course, and people will say, oh, but there was always that kind of thing going on.

And yes, there was.