Mike Graham

And when they filmed that show on the top, they filmed Let It Be or whatever on the top of the Soho rooftop.

And you see all the people down below and everybody's white.

And I know that that might be an unfair comparison to make.

But I went to New York in the 80s and the difference for me

with New York and London was that all of the immigration in New York was people who wanted to be American.

It was people who said, if you asked them, where are you from, they would say New York.

Famously, I used to know, I used to work for the medical organization back then, and we used to use these cars called Skyline cars.

And quite a lot of Russians used to drive them.

And I got in.

There was a guy called Charles Bremner who had been the Moscow correspondent for The Times.

And he and I got in one of these cars.

And he was very kind of quite pompous, because at times, people tend to be.

And obviously, you could tell by the way this guy was speaking that he was Russian.

And so Charles Bremner said to him, so where are you from?

And he went, New Jersey.

And that was where he was from.

He wasn't from Russia anymore.

And so the American dream for them was to go to America

become American, get a house, get a car, put your kid through college, put a flag of the Stars and Stripes outside your house.

And it didn't matter where you were from.