Mike Graham

Oh, that's all right then.

You know, and they debank people like Nigel Farage for having views that they don't like.

And it's all very kind of nice.

It's changing back again now in Wall Street.

Wall Street has kind of given up.

Under Trump, they've kind of come back a little bit and they've reclaimed a bit of that kind of, you know, right-wingery, if you like.

But, you know, I don't know when it all happened.

People really start asking me, when did it all happen?

I said, I don't really know.

It kind of happened in the last 20 years.

And maybe we're all to blame for not seeing it.

And it was kind of almost time bombed, wasn't it?

That's right.

So that nobody would really see it happening.

And it would only be suddenly when the Supreme Court popped up.

And everyone went, oh, when did that happen?

I thought, when I was studying politics, the House of Lords was the highest court in the land.

We didn't even pay any attention to Europe at that point.

And now suddenly, the House of Lords is pretty meaningless as a legal entity.

And Putin sits there laughing at the West and going, well, you're weak.