Mike Holcomb

Yeah, that's the thing is like, okay, if you sure, okay, sure. I haven't gone to this event or no, I haven't worked in like this type of environment or yeah. Why don't you share with me, you know, help, help me understand instead of just sitting there and complaining or, you know, saying mean things. I mean, it's yeah.

Yeah, that's the thing is like, okay, if you sure, okay, sure. I haven't gone to this event or no, I haven't worked in like this type of environment or yeah. Why don't you share with me, you know, help, help me understand instead of just sitting there and complaining or, you know, saying mean things. I mean, it's yeah.

There's a few people out there that, yeah, that especially you see on LinkedIn that they've come to some pretty interesting extremes, but you know, that's like their hobby and they have a lot of fun with it. So yeah.

There's a few people out there that, yeah, that especially you see on LinkedIn that they've come to some pretty interesting extremes, but you know, that's like their hobby and they have a lot of fun with it. So yeah.

Yeah, for sure. I think that's the only way we we win. We always know the attackers are going to be always ahead, you know, and it just goes back to there's there's definitely the few halves in ICSOT and so many, you know, are the have nots. Yeah. And my day job, I get to work with the halves, which which is which is great. Right. You don't have to worry about things like budgets.

Yeah, for sure. I think that's the only way we we win. We always know the attackers are going to be always ahead, you know, and it just goes back to there's there's definitely the few halves in ICSOT and so many, you know, are the have nots. Yeah. And my day job, I get to work with the halves, which which is which is great. Right. You don't have to worry about things like budgets.

But at the end of the day, the vast majority of environments out there are the have-nots. It's true. They're the ones that are going to be impacted or they're the ones that are going to get hit with ransomware and they're going to lose water for maybe a couple thousand. people for maybe even just a couple of days, but that's still a real world impact.

But at the end of the day, the vast majority of environments out there are the have-nots. It's true. They're the ones that are going to be impacted or they're the ones that are going to get hit with ransomware and they're going to lose water for maybe a couple thousand. people for maybe even just a couple of days, but that's still a real world impact.

And then how, how does that, you know, those impacts ripple, ripple out? Uh, and yeah, attacks are only going to get, we're seeing right. They're just continually increasing, uh, the impacts are becoming more and more.

And then how, how does that, you know, those impacts ripple, ripple out? Uh, and yeah, attacks are only going to get, we're seeing right. They're just continually increasing, uh, the impacts are becoming more and more.

I did that actually right after we met in D.C. Yeah, because that's when I got COVID. Thanks.

I did that actually right after we met in D.C. Yeah, because that's when I got COVID. Thanks.

Could be worse places.

Could be worse places.

And thanks, everybody, for listening in. So... So yeah, we'll just keep fighting the good fight and yeah, feel free to reach out anytime.

And thanks, everybody, for listening in. So... So yeah, we'll just keep fighting the good fight and yeah, feel free to reach out anytime.

Thanks, Justin.

Thanks, Justin.