Mike Palm

A guy that I think might go 12 or 15 might go 45.

But that why I'm saying all that is that's where trades happen, because the guy teams identify, quote unquote, their guy.

And I think everybody in the league is on the same page about, OK, I'm not going to have to sell the farm to move up.

Like the trades are going to be kind of nullified a little bit as far as the capital that you have to expend.

to make those trades.

So I think with that, that leads to more trades when people aren't asking for everything, unless you're the Eagles and Howie Roseman, he'll ask for everything every single time.

Oh, yeah.

So he called me Nathan usually only when I was in trouble or trying to make a point.

You know, it's Nate mostly.

And a lot of people say Nathaniel, which is just Nathan.

I was named after the hot dog stand.

See, that was the thing is my sister's name is Adrienne.

My parents' first date was Rocky.

Okay.

So they went to see Rocky.

So she gets Adrienne.

And then I'm like, okay, you know, it has significance.

It's their first date in high school.

All this stuff.

And then I was like, so why did you guys come up with Nathan?