Mike Paterniti

And I had that one little flash of Mr. Chen saying, you know, some of these people will really take you with them if they can.

They're that desperate.

And I had that little flash, like, this would be a stupid way to die.

This would be ridiculous if I... Yeah.

go down with this guy.

But it didn't come to that because when I got to him, I had my foot on the inside of sort of the concrete buttress and I tried to flip him back toward me and he was completely limp.

He was like a bag of sawdust.

He just flipped right back onto me and I hadn't even really pulled him that hard.

It's hard to explain, but when I think of it, I have to say I have just goosebumps all over my body right now.

Because?

Because he was going to kill himself.

And because he didn't.

No, I didn't feel good.

I felt, like, kind of nauseous.

I felt like...

Wow, you know, every week somebody actually does this thing.

And even if we were to clone Mr. Chen and there were 200 of them out there, they'd probably still want a week.

Someone would figure out how to do it.

And then, like, oh, my God, who's coming next, you know?

And so Mr. Chen comes back, right?