Mike Pesca

My interview is with somebody who I just really enjoy talking with, Mike Peska.

He is the gist list, former Slate.

Many of you are probably listeners.

He is somebody that I really have appreciated how he's tried to attack news of the day, current events.

He has really tried to attack these stories from the outside looking in, from a more detached way.

And we dig into the future of journalism.

We dig into what's going on at CBS, though our conversation happened before this specific incident with 60 Minutes, just to let you know.

And then we spend a lot of time on what is this sort of uncomfortable moment we're in, in the gamification of everything, right?

Particularly sports and the prediction markets and where this is headed.

So

In general, I think it's a great conversation.

By the way, if you don't subscribe to the Just List, you should.

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Even the free version is a lot of fun.

He's really good at sort of finding those stories that...

that you're not going to get in the headline newsletters that you subscribe to from a news site, right?

It's that next story that you're like back in the old days for us old guys here.

It was when you actually read a full newspaper and you're like, oh, I never would have sought that headline out, but I'm glad I read the story.

That is what I think Mike's true gift is when it comes to informing people.

informing folks on that.