Mike Pesca

And, you know, look, I'd rather be the Democrats in 28 than Vance.

But every nomination is worth having because the Democrats could end up nominating someone who's less electable than J.D.

Vance is.

But I think Vance is it's interesting that what he did over the weekend in his decision not to you know, he he will not condemn hateful rhetoric on the right.

He goes out of his way to to appease or apologize if.

Somebody on the left says something hateful, they should be ostracized from their job, from society.

When somebody on the right does it, oh, they're just kids.

Nobody should be judged by one thing they do.

He is really, and this is why I think he's going to be somebody who appears to spend too much time online and not enough time in the real world.

This is a guy that needs to touch Republican grass roots, not just Republican internet grass tops.

So I'm skeptical of him, but he has to be considered the heavy favorite.

And he already has some institutional advantages that others are just not going to have.

And frankly, having Turning Point as an organization, which right now will certainly be a financial juggernaut, we'll see how influential it can remain if it is as influential in two years as it feels like it could be now.

But he's already beginning there.

It's hard to see another wing of the party winning in 28.

Now, if Vance does not win the presidency in 28,

Then the 2030 midterms are going to be something else.

Then you're going to have... They may look what we're watching with the Democrats right now in 26, which is we're getting a preview of the fight in 28 between essentially fight or unite.

What kind of Democratic Party should... Democratic nominee should they have?

A fighter or somebody that's going to try to bring the country together or a uniter?