Mike Ritland

Then it went through to EcoHealth Alliance, which is this famous – EcoHealth Alliance was famous for its, I believe, NIH and HHS grants. This was the famous case of it being barred after the revelations of the past few years. I believe EcoHealth Alliance is now barred from being able to get future grants anymore. But they got his pass-through money, and then they then passed the money.

Then it went through to EcoHealth Alliance, which is this famous – EcoHealth Alliance was famous for its, I believe, NIH and HHS grants. This was the famous case of it being barred after the revelations of the past few years. I believe EcoHealth Alliance is now barred from being able to get future grants anymore. But they got his pass-through money, and then they then passed the money.

Then it went through to EcoHealth Alliance, which is this famous – EcoHealth Alliance was famous for its, I believe, NIH and HHS grants. This was the famous case of it being barred after the revelations of the past few years. I believe EcoHealth Alliance is now barred from being able to get future grants anymore. But they got his pass-through money, and then they then passed the money.

Then that money flowed to the Wuhan Institute. And so through this nonprofit sphere, you can create ever more layers of plausible liability that the U.S. government was behind this, that the U.S. government wanted to do this for whatever reason. You can make the argument that gain-of-function,

Then that money flowed to the Wuhan Institute. And so through this nonprofit sphere, you can create ever more layers of plausible liability that the U.S. government was behind this, that the U.S. government wanted to do this for whatever reason. You can make the argument that gain-of-function,

Then that money flowed to the Wuhan Institute. And so through this nonprofit sphere, you can create ever more layers of plausible liability that the U.S. government was behind this, that the U.S. government wanted to do this for whatever reason. You can make the argument that gain-of-function,

is not actually to be, you know, deployed as a biological warfare weapon, or it's not actually to be sort of leaked to destabilize, you know, a popular government like the Trump administration, but actually it's, we do this gain of research function in order to build vaccines in order to, if somebody else builds something like this, we have a way to counter somebody else's biological warfare.

is not actually to be, you know, deployed as a biological warfare weapon, or it's not actually to be sort of leaked to destabilize, you know, a popular government like the Trump administration, but actually it's, we do this gain of research function in order to build vaccines in order to, if somebody else builds something like this, we have a way to counter somebody else's biological warfare.

is not actually to be, you know, deployed as a biological warfare weapon, or it's not actually to be sort of leaked to destabilize, you know, a popular government like the Trump administration, but actually it's, we do this gain of research function in order to build vaccines in order to, if somebody else builds something like this, we have a way to counter somebody else's biological warfare.

This is the same argument. You can think of the Mockingbird media apparatus, the USA Truman Show in the media space. You can make the same argument that, listen, we fund this Truman Show. We find 90% of countries, you know, media complex while sort of either lying about it or trying to hide people from knowing about it, like protesting these foreign agent registration act type things.

This is the same argument. You can think of the Mockingbird media apparatus, the USA Truman Show in the media space. You can make the same argument that, listen, we fund this Truman Show. We find 90% of countries, you know, media complex while sort of either lying about it or trying to hide people from knowing about it, like protesting these foreign agent registration act type things.

This is the same argument. You can think of the Mockingbird media apparatus, the USA Truman Show in the media space. You can make the same argument that, listen, we fund this Truman Show. We find 90% of countries, you know, media complex while sort of either lying about it or trying to hide people from knowing about it, like protesting these foreign agent registration act type things.

Because if we don't do it, somebody else, Russia could do it, China could do it, and so we need to be in the game. This thing's dual use. We're not necessarily just doing this to blare propaganda, but it's to counter foreign countries' propaganda. Same thing with why we, the justification for gain-of-function and building freak mutant viruses and jumping them from animals to human.

Because if we don't do it, somebody else, Russia could do it, China could do it, and so we need to be in the game. This thing's dual use. We're not necessarily just doing this to blare propaganda, but it's to counter foreign countries' propaganda. Same thing with why we, the justification for gain-of-function and building freak mutant viruses and jumping them from animals to human.

Because if we don't do it, somebody else, Russia could do it, China could do it, and so we need to be in the game. This thing's dual use. We're not necessarily just doing this to blare propaganda, but it's to counter foreign countries' propaganda. Same thing with why we, the justification for gain-of-function and building freak mutant viruses and jumping them from animals to human.

We create these viruses that never existed in a lab. in order to create vaccines against hypothetical future viruses, and to build the knowledge base of academic researchers and medical researchers in the field, so even if we aren't able to have the vaccines, we're able to quickly close the gap in the future to do that.

We create these viruses that never existed in a lab. in order to create vaccines against hypothetical future viruses, and to build the knowledge base of academic researchers and medical researchers in the field, so even if we aren't able to have the vaccines, we're able to quickly close the gap in the future to do that.

We create these viruses that never existed in a lab. in order to create vaccines against hypothetical future viruses, and to build the knowledge base of academic researchers and medical researchers in the field, so even if we aren't able to have the vaccines, we're able to quickly close the gap in the future to do that.

We're learning more about the sciences by expanding beyond the current set of virus suites that we've seen. That's a policy debate that I'm not even entering into, but... But the fact is, is this is what we do. We do this at every major university. And universities, in turn, often function as arms of the state. For example, when the U.S. State Department and...

We're learning more about the sciences by expanding beyond the current set of virus suites that we've seen. That's a policy debate that I'm not even entering into, but... But the fact is, is this is what we do. We do this at every major university. And universities, in turn, often function as arms of the state. For example, when the U.S. State Department and...