Mike Ryan
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Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time. Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. Or bottle whatever your preference.
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time. Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. Or bottle whatever your preference.
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Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. You'll take a sip, look around, see your family, and know you immediately made the best decision possible.
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Do we have to give him credit? And I've been anti-Jackson.
Do we have to give him credit? And I've been anti-Jackson.
You're the one who said it.
You're the one who said it.
Take it easy.
Take it easy.
He's the one who said one of my agents. I didn't make that correction. You made that correction. I don't have any agents.
He's the one who said one of my agents. I didn't make that correction. You made that correction. I don't have any agents.
Doggy on a Tuesday. Can't even fix his hair. Too busy running from Hollywood premiere to Hollywood premiere because first take is giving him a second life.
Doggy on a Tuesday. Can't even fix his hair. Too busy running from Hollywood premiere to Hollywood premiere because first take is giving him a second life.
Well, what do you want?
Well, what do you want?
Don't do this.
Don't do this.
And forget me. You're bought and paid for. You're bought and paid for. No, I'm going to argue about that. I'm bought and paid for.
And forget me. You're bought and paid for. You're bought and paid for. No, I'm going to argue about that. I'm bought and paid for.
One of my agents. How many agents do you have, Russo? Well, they work together.
One of my agents. How many agents do you have, Russo? Well, they work together.
Ich bin interessiert, wie sie sich eine bestimmte Situation befinden, in der sie waren. Ob ich daran involviert bin oder nicht. Ich frage mich, wie sie darüber nachgedacht haben. Ich bin interessiert, was die anderen denken. Man weiß nie, was rauskommt. Die Bits, die ich gesehen habe, sind wirklich, wirklich gut. Ich weiß, dass die Leute die erste Saison lieben.
Ich bin interessiert, wie sie sich eine bestimmte Situation befinden, in der sie waren. Ob ich daran involviert bin oder nicht. Ich frage mich, wie sie darüber nachgedacht haben. Ich bin interessiert, was die anderen denken. Man weiß nie, was rauskommt. Die Bits, die ich gesehen habe, sind wirklich, wirklich gut. Ich weiß, dass die Leute die erste Saison lieben.
Und ich denke, das war noch besser von den Klips, die ich gesehen habe. Ja, sie haben einen guten Job gemacht. Ich freue mich, dass Netflix das gemacht hat. Sie zeigen einen inneren Blick auf die Fahrer, die Teams, das Week-to-Week-Stuff, die Höhen und Löhne des Sportes. Das ist immer interessant für die Leute zu sehen. Und du hast es viel mit anderen Sporten gesehen.
Und ich denke, das war noch besser von den Klips, die ich gesehen habe. Ja, sie haben einen guten Job gemacht. Ich freue mich, dass Netflix das gemacht hat. Sie zeigen einen inneren Blick auf die Fahrer, die Teams, das Week-to-Week-Stuff, die Höhen und Löhne des Sportes. Das ist immer interessant für die Leute zu sehen. Und du hast es viel mit anderen Sporten gesehen.
Du weißt von dem Quarterback-Show, Receiver, Full Swing. Man muss den Leuten immer mehr zeigen, was hinter den Szenen steht. Ich denke, dass dieses Show das wirklich tut.
Du weißt von dem Quarterback-Show, Receiver, Full Swing. Man muss den Leuten immer mehr zeigen, was hinter den Szenen steht. Ich denke, dass dieses Show das wirklich tut.
Du weißt, bei NASCAR ist Motorsport im Allgemeinen ein einzigartiger Sport in diesem Bereich. Das grüne Bereich. Du bist alle Verletzter. Nicht du, aber jeder. Jeder ist das.
Du weißt, bei NASCAR ist Motorsport im Allgemeinen ein einzigartiger Sport in diesem Bereich. Das grüne Bereich. Du bist alle Verletzter. Nicht du, aber jeder. Jeder ist das.
Everyone's a cheater. If you're not cheating, you're not trying. That's good journalism, Billy.
Everyone's a cheater. If you're not cheating, you're not trying. That's good journalism, Billy.
It's only cheating if you get caught. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. And Es ist anders als in anderen Sporten. Es gibt Kontroversen in anderen Sporten. Was ist in der Regelung oder nicht oder was ist in der grünen Bereich.
It's only cheating if you get caught. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. And Es ist anders als in anderen Sporten. Es gibt Kontroversen in anderen Sporten. Was ist in der Regelung oder nicht oder was ist in der grünen Bereich.
Unser Sport hat einfach eine größere grüne Bereich, weil die Autos, es gibt so viele Dinge an ihnen, dass es nur so viele Regeln gibt und jeder versucht immer, kleine Dinge zu manipulieren. Hast du jemals Steroide genommen? Nein.
Unser Sport hat einfach eine größere grüne Bereich, weil die Autos, es gibt so viele Dinge an ihnen, dass es nur so viele Regeln gibt und jeder versucht immer, kleine Dinge zu manipulieren. Hast du jemals Steroide genommen? Nein.
What do you mean? I think everyone would know something's up, dude. I'm a tiny guy. I walk around like a buck forty. And if I all of a sudden showed up weighing like 170, 180, just juice to the gills. I think people would know what's up. So no, I would not do that stuff. But would that be a problem? It would not be a competitive advantage.
What do you mean? I think everyone would know something's up, dude. I'm a tiny guy. I walk around like a buck forty. And if I all of a sudden showed up weighing like 170, 180, just juice to the gills. I think people would know what's up. So no, I would not do that stuff. But would that be a problem? It would not be a competitive advantage.
I don't want to be pumping that stuff in me.
I don't want to be pumping that stuff in me.
Hey man, everyone does. Jeder macht das. Das ist ein Teil davon.
Hey man, everyone does. Jeder macht das. Das ist ein Teil davon.
Yeah, maybe, I guess. Try that. LASIK? Like, would LASIK be one? LASIK? Eye surgery? I mean, gosh. But that's not, like, illegal.
Yeah, maybe, I guess. Try that. LASIK? Like, would LASIK be one? LASIK? Eye surgery? I mean, gosh. But that's not, like, illegal.
It could have been one day. Yeah, it could have been. But, no, I really don't know. Like, I mean, getting bigger and stronger is, like, as opposed to, like, you know, Der Stereotyp war groß im Baseball und hat den Jungs geholfen, was sie tun mussten. Und das war für ihre Arbeit nötig. Aber groß und stark zu sein, hilft dir nicht, wenn du ein Rennrad fährst.
It could have been one day. Yeah, it could have been. But, no, I really don't know. Like, I mean, getting bigger and stronger is, like, as opposed to, like, you know, Der Stereotyp war groß im Baseball und hat den Jungs geholfen, was sie tun mussten. Und das war für ihre Arbeit nötig. Aber groß und stark zu sein, hilft dir nicht, wenn du ein Rennrad fährst.
Wir arbeiten an verschiedenen Teilen unseres Bodies, um effizient in einem Auto zu sein. Stamina, so etwas wie das, Kontrolle des Herzwertes. Also, wenn man muskulär und groß ist, hilft es nicht wirklich. Also, ich weiß es wirklich nicht. Wie du gesagt hast, LASIK könnte P1 sein. Und vielleicht werden meine Augen jedes Jahr schlimmer. Also, ich werde vielleicht irgendwann auf dem Bus springen.
Wir arbeiten an verschiedenen Teilen unseres Bodies, um effizient in einem Auto zu sein. Stamina, so etwas wie das, Kontrolle des Herzwertes. Also, wenn man muskulär und groß ist, hilft es nicht wirklich. Also, ich weiß es wirklich nicht. Wie du gesagt hast, LASIK könnte P1 sein. Und vielleicht werden meine Augen jedes Jahr schlimmer. Also, ich werde vielleicht irgendwann auf dem Bus springen.
Ja, ich meine, hey, als Racer bin ich Fan aller Art von Motorsporten. F1, Motocross, Indy-Kars, Sprint-Kars. Ich mag nur Rennen. Und für einen Grund... Einige Fans aus dem ganzen Land und dem ganzen Weltraum, die fangen an, zu sagen, oh, das ist superior, ich hasse diese andere Form von Rennen. Für mich, wenn du ein Fan von Motorsport bist, bist du ein Fan von Motorsport.
Ja, ich meine, hey, als Racer bin ich Fan aller Art von Motorsporten. F1, Motocross, Indy-Kars, Sprint-Kars. Ich mag nur Rennen. Und für einen Grund... Einige Fans aus dem ganzen Land und dem ganzen Weltraum, die fangen an, zu sagen, oh, das ist superior, ich hasse diese andere Form von Rennen. Für mich, wenn du ein Fan von Motorsport bist, bist du ein Fan von Motorsport.
Ich meine, ich bin gebiased, dass ich denke, wir haben bessere Rennen gemacht, wenn es um Passen geht. F1 ist spektakulär auf der Ingenieurseite. Die Fahrer sind großartig. Ich wünsche mir, dass F1 ein bisschen kompetitiver war. Man sieht mehr Passen, man sieht ein bisschen eine andere Variation von Gewinnern.
Ich meine, ich bin gebiased, dass ich denke, wir haben bessere Rennen gemacht, wenn es um Passen geht. F1 ist spektakulär auf der Ingenieurseite. Die Fahrer sind großartig. Ich wünsche mir, dass F1 ein bisschen kompetitiver war. Man sieht mehr Passen, man sieht ein bisschen eine andere Variation von Gewinnern.
Ich wünsche mir, dass F1 ein bisschen anders war in diesem Bereich, aber ich respektiere die Leute, die es gemacht haben. Ich denke, wir haben ein bisschen mehr Dynamik in Bezug auf die Rennfähigkeit und die Entspannung der Fahrer. Die Fahrzeuge passen einander und es gibt Kämpfe und verschiedene Gewinner. Ich denke, dass die Leute das gerne sehen.
Ich wünsche mir, dass F1 ein bisschen anders war in diesem Bereich, aber ich respektiere die Leute, die es gemacht haben. Ich denke, wir haben ein bisschen mehr Dynamik in Bezug auf die Rennfähigkeit und die Entspannung der Fahrer. Die Fahrzeuge passen einander und es gibt Kämpfe und verschiedene Gewinner. Ich denke, dass die Leute das gerne sehen.
I'm sorry, I'm not a dick. I just, I can't do it, man. You curse. That's a start.
I'm sorry, I'm not a dick. I just, I can't do it, man. You curse. That's a start.
There it is. You know what? Here we go.
There it is. You know what? Here we go.
Oh, man. Can I say anything on your show? Anything you want. Yeah, well, nothing affects me. Say your favorite. Yeah. I mean, I think it's hard to beat. Hell yeah! Yeah Ryan Blade! Yeah! Hall of Famer! What's your favorite? What's your favorite? How do you say it? Carl! Shut the f*** up! Yeah, I mean, you can say shut the f*** up. Dumb mother effer is probably a pretty good one.
Oh, man. Can I say anything on your show? Anything you want. Yeah, well, nothing affects me. Say your favorite. Yeah. I mean, I think it's hard to beat. Hell yeah! Yeah Ryan Blade! Yeah! Hall of Famer! What's your favorite? What's your favorite? How do you say it? Carl! Shut the f*** up! Yeah, I mean, you can say shut the f*** up. Dumb mother effer is probably a pretty good one.
Yeah, this guy gets it. We like it. That kind of cuts to the core. Too far. Too far. Come on, Ryan. Right. Scale it back.
Yeah, this guy gets it. We like it. That kind of cuts to the core. Too far. Too far. Come on, Ryan. Right. Scale it back.
J'all are trying to get me to call people fat.
J'all are trying to get me to call people fat.
No, I mean, everyone has their own things, what works for them. So I don't judge anybody man. Whatever you want to be.
No, I mean, everyone has their own things, what works for them. So I don't judge anybody man. Whatever you want to be.
Yeah, I'm excited to announce it on y'all's show. Like I said, I appreciate you having me. But yeah, we're moving the championship race. NASCAR is moving championship weekend to help the Miami Speedway in 2026 officially. November 6th through the 8th. It was at Miami for a long time. It moved to Phoenix for a handful of years. And now they're bringing it back to Miami.
Yeah, I'm excited to announce it on y'all's show. Like I said, I appreciate you having me. But yeah, we're moving the championship race. NASCAR is moving championship weekend to help the Miami Speedway in 2026 officially. November 6th through the 8th. It was at Miami for a long time. It moved to Phoenix for a handful of years. And now they're bringing it back to Miami.
So I know a lot of people are excited about that. I'm very excited about it. Es ist ein tolles Gebiet. Wir würden gerne, dass ihr alle für den Wettbewerbsabend rauskommt. Es wäre ein helles Zeitpunkt. Offiziell ist es da draußen. Die Leute haben Gerüchte. Aber es passiert definitiv.
So I know a lot of people are excited about that. I'm very excited about it. Es ist ein tolles Gebiet. Wir würden gerne, dass ihr alle für den Wettbewerbsabend rauskommt. Es wäre ein helles Zeitpunkt. Offiziell ist es da draußen. Die Leute haben Gerüchte. Aber es passiert definitiv.
Na, danke, dass ihr mich hier habt, Leute. Das ist ein hübsches Intro. Ich freue mich, dass ich wieder auf dem Show bin. Danke nochmal, dass ihr mich hier habt. Nein, glücklicherweise habe ich es nicht gemacht.
Na, danke, dass ihr mich hier habt, Leute. Das ist ein hübsches Intro. Ich freue mich, dass ich wieder auf dem Show bin. Danke nochmal, dass ihr mich hier habt. Nein, glücklicherweise habe ich es nicht gemacht.
had a family member who has burdened me uh too much okay uh i i go ahead do you ever find any of the guys on your team they talk too much in your ear while you're just trying to concentrate on racing um you know i i sometimes i feel like uh i've kind of always been one that prefers silence over too much talking um i've always you know i like i like uh
had a family member who has burdened me uh too much okay uh i i go ahead do you ever find any of the guys on your team they talk too much in your ear while you're just trying to concentrate on racing um you know i i sometimes i feel like uh i've kind of always been one that prefers silence over too much talking um i've always you know i like i like uh
Communication when it's helpful, but sometimes it's just talking just to talk. But no, I'm not going to call anybody out. But I think we've all had that to where it's like, what's the point of this conversation going? And are you just saying words just to say them? But luckily, I don't have to deal with that.
Communication when it's helpful, but sometimes it's just talking just to talk. But no, I'm not going to call anybody out. But I think we've all had that to where it's like, what's the point of this conversation going? And are you just saying words just to say them? But luckily, I don't have to deal with that.
I won't say, I don't go about it in that way. I just, I think I just say, like, less talking. And that's really all. And then it gets resolved.
I won't say, I don't go about it in that way. I just, I think I just say, like, less talking. And that's really all. And then it gets resolved.
I mean, you're all out of group and you, you know, it's just like, all right, less talking. And then we can go off.
I mean, you're all out of group and you, you know, it's just like, all right, less talking. And then we can go off.
Weißt du, ich glaube, ich habe das Replay von Homestead gesehen. Ich meine, nenn mich nicht verrückt, aber ich fühle mich wie ein Meteor, der durch unseren Grill über den Radiator gefangen hat und das Auto aufgelöst hat. Also denke ich, dass du das in Existenz gespürt hast.
Weißt du, ich glaube, ich habe das Replay von Homestead gesehen. Ich meine, nenn mich nicht verrückt, aber ich fühle mich wie ein Meteor, der durch unseren Grill über den Radiator gefangen hat und das Auto aufgelöst hat. Also denke ich, dass du das in Existenz gespürt hast.
Also, wenn du sagen möchtest, dass es ein Lichtstrahl sein wird und ich von Lichtstrahl getroffen werde, dann denke ich, dass du das All-in-All sagst, weißt du, und du kannst fast die Zukunft beurteilen. Aber hoffentlich wird es ein bisschen besser. Es ist ein bisschen besser geworden, was schön ist. Wir haben es geschafft, einige Rennen zu beenden, also das ist gut.
Also, wenn du sagen möchtest, dass es ein Lichtstrahl sein wird und ich von Lichtstrahl getroffen werde, dann denke ich, dass du das All-in-All sagst, weißt du, und du kannst fast die Zukunft beurteilen. Aber hoffentlich wird es ein bisschen besser. Es ist ein bisschen besser geworden, was schön ist. Wir haben es geschafft, einige Rennen zu beenden, also das ist gut.
Ich versuche nicht, so zu denken, was kann nächstes Mal falsch gehen. Ich versuche wirklich nicht, so zu sein. Aber es ist immer in der Rückseite deiner Kopf, richtig? Okay, was ist nächstes Mal? Es scheint nichts richtig zu passieren. Ich versuche nicht so zu sein. Aber es ist manchmal schwer nicht zu sein. Das letzte Wochenende in Texas war... Das ist ein schwieriges Ort.
Ich versuche nicht, so zu denken, was kann nächstes Mal falsch gehen. Ich versuche wirklich nicht, so zu sein. Aber es ist immer in der Rückseite deiner Kopf, richtig? Okay, was ist nächstes Mal? Es scheint nichts richtig zu passieren. Ich versuche nicht so zu sein. Aber es ist manchmal schwer nicht zu sein. Das letzte Wochenende in Texas war... Das ist ein schwieriges Ort.
Sie haben es wieder aufgeräumt. Ich glaube 2017. Wenn man die Rennstrecke wieder aufräumt, dauert es ein bisschen, bis man auf der Rennstrecke reinkommt. Wir sind so schnell wie wir sind, um die Strecke weit zu bekommen. Es ist einfach schwer zu machen. Und dieser Ort ist einfach nicht aufgewachsen. Also es ist einfach nur eine einzelne Rennstrecke, vielleicht zwei Rennstrecke.
Sie haben es wieder aufgeräumt. Ich glaube 2017. Wenn man die Rennstrecke wieder aufräumt, dauert es ein bisschen, bis man auf der Rennstrecke reinkommt. Wir sind so schnell wie wir sind, um die Strecke weit zu bekommen. Es ist einfach schwer zu machen. Und dieser Ort ist einfach nicht aufgewachsen. Also es ist einfach nur eine einzelne Rennstrecke, vielleicht zwei Rennstrecke.
Und wenn du einen Fuß steigst, dann bist du auf dem Weg. Und es ist einfach ein schwieriger Ort, um zu fahren und zu passen. Und ich denke, das ist das, was die Fahrer frustriert, wenn es nirgendwo zu gehen und umzugehen ist. Und die Fahrer werden frustriert von den Fans. Obwohl es nicht ein guter Show für die Fans ist, um zu schauen.
Und wenn du einen Fuß steigst, dann bist du auf dem Weg. Und es ist einfach ein schwieriger Ort, um zu fahren und zu passen. Und ich denke, das ist das, was die Fahrer frustriert, wenn es nirgendwo zu gehen und umzugehen ist. Und die Fahrer werden frustriert von den Fans. Obwohl es nicht ein guter Show für die Fans ist, um zu schauen.
Also hoffentlich können sie etwas herausfinden, um das Ort ein bisschen besser zu machen. Weil es etwas dazu braucht.
Also hoffentlich können sie etwas herausfinden, um das Ort ein bisschen besser zu machen. Weil es etwas dazu braucht.
Man you're hung up on this one. No, it's not just one guy. It can be multiple. It's unfortunate.
Man you're hung up on this one. No, it's not just one guy. It can be multiple. It's unfortunate.
Ich meine, wenn sie auf Feuer treten, ist es nicht lustig. Das passiert manchmal. Also das ist wahrscheinlich das Schlimmste. Ich meine, du weißt, wir recken und so, und einige Recken sind schwieriger als andere, aber wie Feuer, denke ich, richtig, jeder ist davon Angst. Es gibt nichts, was man wirklich tun kann, außer sich davon zu entfernen, sobald man es kann.
Ich meine, wenn sie auf Feuer treten, ist es nicht lustig. Das passiert manchmal. Also das ist wahrscheinlich das Schlimmste. Ich meine, du weißt, wir recken und so, und einige Recken sind schwieriger als andere, aber wie Feuer, denke ich, richtig, jeder ist davon Angst. Es gibt nichts, was man wirklich tun kann, außer sich davon zu entfernen, sobald man es kann.
Und es dauert uns ein bisschen, aus dem Auto zu kommen, zu stoppen. Und so ist das der schlimmste Fall, wenn man auf Feuer treten muss. Und dann geht es einfach in den Panikmodus. Aber ja, das ist etwas, was wir versuchen zu vermeiden.
Und es dauert uns ein bisschen, aus dem Auto zu kommen, zu stoppen. Und so ist das der schlimmste Fall, wenn man auf Feuer treten muss. Und dann geht es einfach in den Panikmodus. Aber ja, das ist etwas, was wir versuchen zu vermeiden.
Ja, das glaube ich auch. Ich freue mich darauf, dass es rauskommt. Es wird morgen, am 7. Mai, rauskommen. Die 2. Saison wird echt Spaß machen. Ich habe ein paar Sachen gesehen, die ich noch nicht gesehen haben wollte, bevor es rauskam. Aber ich weiß, was ich gemacht habe. Ich war da, um das zu machen. Ich weiß, wie es aussieht. Aber andere Leute, die andere Fahrer interviewen oder so,
Ja, das glaube ich auch. Ich freue mich darauf, dass es rauskommt. Es wird morgen, am 7. Mai, rauskommen. Die 2. Saison wird echt Spaß machen. Ich habe ein paar Sachen gesehen, die ich noch nicht gesehen haben wollte, bevor es rauskam. Aber ich weiß, was ich gemacht habe. Ich war da, um das zu machen. Ich weiß, wie es aussieht. Aber andere Leute, die andere Fahrer interviewen oder so,
Those ones usually are bad because then you tense up, you know, and everyone's always like, well, you know, if you're going to get in a car wreck, just relax. That's really easy to say if you've never been in a car wreck before.
Those ones usually are bad because then you tense up, you know, and everyone's always like, well, you know, if you're going to get in a car wreck, just relax. That's really easy to say if you've never been in a car wreck before.
It might die. Just relax.
It might die. Just relax.
Yeah, just relax. It's fine. You're about to just hit this fence at 70 Gs. You're fine. Just relax. It's like, all right, you've never been a part of this before.
Yeah, just relax. It's fine. You're about to just hit this fence at 70 Gs. You're fine. Just relax. It's like, all right, you've never been a part of this before.
I have Star Wars tattooed on my body. That's probably a pretty extreme. They don't wash off for those of you who are wondering, uh, they're there for life. So you better be a fan of that thing for your whole life. So I got a couple, uh, Darth Vader tattoos. Um, so I, yeah, I grew up. Uh, my mom took me to go see Phantom Menace.
I have Star Wars tattooed on my body. That's probably a pretty extreme. They don't wash off for those of you who are wondering, uh, they're there for life. So you better be a fan of that thing for your whole life. So I got a couple, uh, Darth Vader tattoos. Um, so I, yeah, I grew up. Uh, my mom took me to go see Phantom Menace.
I think it came out in no one or 99, uh, when I was like six years old and I was hooked ever since then. So, uh, I got to go to the, The Last Jedi premiere, which I thought was good. I think what you want in a movie, but it was pretty neat being in that atmosphere of like, you know, a Star Wars film coming out and I get to be the first to see it. That's a very select few.
I think it came out in no one or 99, uh, when I was like six years old and I was hooked ever since then. So, uh, I got to go to the, The Last Jedi premiere, which I thought was good. I think what you want in a movie, but it was pretty neat being in that atmosphere of like, you know, a Star Wars film coming out and I get to be the first to see it. That's a very select few.
So, yeah, I have a huge obsession with the franchise and it's been a little up and down lately, but I have hope for the future. So we'll see.
So, yeah, I have a huge obsession with the franchise and it's been a little up and down lately, but I have hope for the future. So we'll see.
Oh, my wife knows better. And I know better now, too, because my wife taught me. All the Star Wars stuff is pretty much taken down in my house. Before her and I got together, I had a shrine. And when she moved in, she was like, yeah, we're going to get rid of this. You have to put it somewhere else.
Oh, my wife knows better. And I know better now, too, because my wife taught me. All the Star Wars stuff is pretty much taken down in my house. Before her and I got together, I had a shrine. And when she moved in, she was like, yeah, we're going to get rid of this. You have to put it somewhere else.
Any wedding is full of debauchery. I don't know what it is about weddings, but people just go nuts. It's like they're free passes. if they go to one or three weddings a year, like if they're free passages, get absolutely belligerently drunk and no one judges them. They're like, you know, it's like, Oh yeah, it's a wedding. You can go do whatever you want. It's fine.
Any wedding is full of debauchery. I don't know what it is about weddings, but people just go nuts. It's like they're free passes. if they go to one or three weddings a year, like if they're free passages, get absolutely belligerently drunk and no one judges them. They're like, you know, it's like, Oh yeah, it's a wedding. You can go do whatever you want. It's fine.
But, uh, yeah, we got married out in Aspen, uh, my wife and I and a beautiful place. And, uh, yeah, it was, it was a lot of fun. So we did it right. Which was, uh, which was cool weddings though. They go quick though. That was the only bad thing about the wedding is it was over before you knew it. And, um,
But, uh, yeah, we got married out in Aspen, uh, my wife and I and a beautiful place. And, uh, yeah, it was, it was a lot of fun. So we did it right. Which was, uh, which was cool weddings though. They go quick though. That was the only bad thing about the wedding is it was over before you knew it. And, um,
And then you wake up the next day, you're like, man, we planned this for a year and now it's over. So let's go home. So we had a good time.
And then you wake up the next day, you're like, man, we planned this for a year and now it's over. So let's go home. So we had a good time.
I like it. Yeah. I got to meet Shanahan and, uh, in Sonoma a couple of years ago. Cool guy. And, uh, yeah.
I like it. Yeah. I got to meet Shanahan and, uh, in Sonoma a couple of years ago. Cool guy. And, uh, yeah.
Long hair, full beard is pretty strong when it gets to November and I don't shave or cut my hair. It's a good one. But hey, I appreciate that. I feel like it was I feel like it was skewed a little bit. Only because I was your guest, I was number one. But I'm great ahead of a lot of great athletes, great coaches. I appreciate that. That really got my morning started off.
Long hair, full beard is pretty strong when it gets to November and I don't shave or cut my hair. It's a good one. But hey, I appreciate that. I feel like it was I feel like it was skewed a little bit. Only because I was your guest, I was number one. But I'm great ahead of a lot of great athletes, great coaches. I appreciate that. That really got my morning started off.
I appreciate it, guys. Thanks for having me. I had a lot of fun.
I appreciate it, guys. Thanks for having me. I had a lot of fun.
Very good.
Very good.
Iceman. Good job. Man, you're 0 for 2. I'm actually Iceman, but it's fine. No, thanks for having me, fellas. I appreciate it. But yeah, I mean, it's loud, man. I mean, I've been doing this since I was nine years old. I grew up watching my dad race, so I've been around the track forever. And it does.
Iceman. Good job. Man, you're 0 for 2. I'm actually Iceman, but it's fine. No, thanks for having me, fellas. I appreciate it. But yeah, I mean, it's loud, man. I mean, I've been doing this since I was nine years old. I grew up watching my dad race, so I've been around the track forever. And it does.
The worst part of the life of what?
The worst part of the life of what?
I mean, we do the best we can of like wearing in ears in the car, stuff like that to try to just muffle some of it. But it does digress a little bit. You see a lot of drivers that have retired, they are on hearing aids now, but it's just one of the drawbacks.
I mean, we do the best we can of like wearing in ears in the car, stuff like that to try to just muffle some of it. But it does digress a little bit. You see a lot of drivers that have retired, they are on hearing aids now, but it's just one of the drawbacks.
Yeah, it's always what I wanted to do just because I grew up around it and it was what I was most comfortable with, just watching my dad do it. I played other sports as a kid. You know, I, I love playing basketball. I love baseball. Um, but then I kind of had to come to a realization, like I'm probably not going to make it. I'm, I have my father's jeans.
Yeah, it's always what I wanted to do just because I grew up around it and it was what I was most comfortable with, just watching my dad do it. I played other sports as a kid. You know, I, I love playing basketball. I love baseball. Um, but then I kind of had to come to a realization, like I'm probably not going to make it. I'm, I have my father's jeans.
I'm probably going to be five, nine and like 140 pounds. And, Racing is probably the best route for me. But my dad never forced me to do it. He was always, are you sure you want to do this? Are you sure you want to go to the next step? So it was something that I just wanted to do what my dad did. I got lucky that I was able to get the opportunities and make a living off of doing this.
I'm probably going to be five, nine and like 140 pounds. And, Racing is probably the best route for me. But my dad never forced me to do it. He was always, are you sure you want to do this? Are you sure you want to go to the next step? So it was something that I just wanted to do what my dad did. I got lucky that I was able to get the opportunities and make a living off of doing this.
I'll be honest with you, like, not really. I don't really have to search for adrenaline too often. People ask all the time, like, oh, it's just is it just an adrenaline boost racing cars? And like, not really. Like, you're not white knuckling out there all the time. I think it's just what you're used to. But I try to find things that are more like relaxing to me, like going, you know, skiing and
I'll be honest with you, like, not really. I don't really have to search for adrenaline too often. People ask all the time, like, oh, it's just is it just an adrenaline boost racing cars? And like, not really. Like, you're not white knuckling out there all the time. I think it's just what you're used to. But I try to find things that are more like relaxing to me, like going, you know, skiing and
you know, I play a lot of golf. Those are relaxing things to me where I can just kind of decompress and just like be out there and not really have to worry about too much. So I don't really search for adrenaline too often.
you know, I play a lot of golf. Those are relaxing things to me where I can just kind of decompress and just like be out there and not really have to worry about too much. So I don't really search for adrenaline too often.
The opposite, complete opposite. I am a very slow driver on the roads. I have nowhere to be quickly. I always tell people like, I get paid to drive really fast for my job. And the only thing I get, if I go fast on the roads is like a speeding ticket, a fine or go to jail. So it's like the trade-off is not worth it to me. My wife is actually the speed demon behind the wheel.
The opposite, complete opposite. I am a very slow driver on the roads. I have nowhere to be quickly. I always tell people like, I get paid to drive really fast for my job. And the only thing I get, if I go fast on the roads is like a speeding ticket, a fine or go to jail. So it's like the trade-off is not worth it to me. My wife is actually the speed demon behind the wheel.
I kind of, if she's driving, we're getting to the place we need to go to quickly. And, uh, I try not to be a passenger, uh, you know, passenger driver, I guess. And, uh, I'd tell her what to do, but she's a speed demon on the roads. I, uh, I, I don't really get anything for that.
I kind of, if she's driving, we're getting to the place we need to go to quickly. And, uh, I try not to be a passenger, uh, you know, passenger driver, I guess. And, uh, I'd tell her what to do, but she's a speed demon on the roads. I, uh, I, I don't really get anything for that.
I mean, everyone gets tickets, right? I mean, everyone does it. I haven't had one in a good amount of years. I'll tell you, my last one I had was I was a junior in high school. And my mother put a stop to that right away. The fear of mom got put in me after that speeding ticket because it wasn't a great one. It was a moment.
I mean, everyone gets tickets, right? I mean, everyone does it. I haven't had one in a good amount of years. I'll tell you, my last one I had was I was a junior in high school. And my mother put a stop to that right away. The fear of mom got put in me after that speeding ticket because it wasn't a great one. It was a moment.
And so after that one, I've been very, I just think of my mom when I'm driving like I can't. Give it up.
And so after that one, I've been very, I just think of my mom when I'm driving like I can't. Give it up.
No, I was going, I mean, it might not be impressive, but to me it was bad. I was going 80 in a 45. You crazy person. It was not. Yeah. Yeah, I'm crazy. I was a crazy guy. Yeah. You're a dangerous Iceman. I passed the cop. I came over this hill and passed him, and we locked eyes. And immediately I'm like, oh, no.
No, I was going, I mean, it might not be impressive, but to me it was bad. I was going 80 in a 45. You crazy person. It was not. Yeah. Yeah, I'm crazy. I was a crazy guy. Yeah. You're a dangerous Iceman. I passed the cop. I came over this hill and passed him, and we locked eyes. And immediately I'm like, oh, no.
So I just I literally I just pulled over and stopped and I waited for him to turn around. So I was already stopped by the time he turned around and turned the lights on.
So I just I literally I just pulled over and stopped and I waited for him to turn around. So I was already stopped by the time he turned around and turned the lights on.
Sometimes I get a little annoyed with with that. drivers on the road like everybody like you know people merging kind of being foolish uh i'll tell you what bothers me the most is uh no turn signals that really annoys me especially if you're like stopping in the middle of the road to turn and you don't put your signal on i'm like what
Sometimes I get a little annoyed with with that. drivers on the road like everybody like you know people merging kind of being foolish uh i'll tell you what bothers me the most is uh no turn signals that really annoys me especially if you're like stopping in the middle of the road to turn and you don't put your signal on i'm like what
Yeah, I get down there today. I have noticed. It's funny, we travel across the country and each state has its own like work as far as people drive in and kind of what they do. You know, you got like the big cities like New York and stuff like that, where I don't know how people drive in New York in the city. Everyone's just honking at each other.
Yeah, I get down there today. I have noticed. It's funny, we travel across the country and each state has its own like work as far as people drive in and kind of what they do. You know, you got like the big cities like New York and stuff like that, where I don't know how people drive in New York in the city. Everyone's just honking at each other.
But then you got Miami, like you said, where, you know, people just are all over the place. I would say no turn signal bothers me more. If you have your turn signal on, you probably have your music playing too loud and you forgot to turn your turn signal off. I've done that before. But if you're still going and your brake lights aren't on, like, all right, you're not turning anytime soon.
But then you got Miami, like you said, where, you know, people just are all over the place. I would say no turn signal bothers me more. If you have your turn signal on, you probably have your music playing too loud and you forgot to turn your turn signal off. I've done that before. But if you're still going and your brake lights aren't on, like, all right, you're not turning anytime soon.
So I don't really worry about you.
So I don't really worry about you.
i tell you if that does happen i can't be upset about it you know that's a that's a hell of a way to go that's an amazing scientific thing right a meteor coming to get you that's like the odds have to be higher than getting struck by lightning on that one it's like all right well if it was meant to be it's meant to be um i guess for our year it's been like a super scrappy year so far uh like you said last couple weeks haven't really gone our way but
i tell you if that does happen i can't be upset about it you know that's a that's a hell of a way to go that's an amazing scientific thing right a meteor coming to get you that's like the odds have to be higher than getting struck by lightning on that one it's like all right well if it was meant to be it's meant to be um i guess for our year it's been like a super scrappy year so far uh like you said last couple weeks haven't really gone our way but
i've always related this sport just because i can relate to it the most is like a big wave like just you got you're going to be down a little bit and then you got to learn when you know you're riding the wave and you're and you're running really well you have to enjoy that stuff but like not let it bother you if you're sitting out in the ocean and no waves are coming at you or you're getting crushed by them it's just part of it and you just know that you're gonna you're gonna go race next week and uh you can try to do something different
i've always related this sport just because i can relate to it the most is like a big wave like just you got you're going to be down a little bit and then you got to learn when you know you're riding the wave and you're and you're running really well you have to enjoy that stuff but like not let it bother you if you're sitting out in the ocean and no waves are coming at you or you're getting crushed by them it's just part of it and you just know that you're gonna you're gonna go race next week and uh you can try to do something different
So we haven't really gotten too down about that. I think that gets better as you get older and just understanding that, you know, there's sometimes nothing you can do and you just got to keep going.
So we haven't really gotten too down about that. I think that gets better as you get older and just understanding that, you know, there's sometimes nothing you can do and you just got to keep going.
I think it's situational. I don't lose confidence. I've just never been that person. So I try to just not let doubt get to me. And I always just try to go back if things aren't going our way. Our whole team is really great at what they do. All 15 guys that we got in our camp are amazing. And I have all the faith in them. I feel like as a driver, if you make a mistake...
I think it's situational. I don't lose confidence. I've just never been that person. So I try to just not let doubt get to me. And I always just try to go back if things aren't going our way. Our whole team is really great at what they do. All 15 guys that we got in our camp are amazing. And I have all the faith in them. I feel like as a driver, if you make a mistake...
you know, just you, you try, I try to learn from it right away. And I don't think you try to let doubt creep in your mind, like, Oh, I don't know if I can still do this. Like, that's not a good way to think. So if those creep, if those thoughts do kind of creep in, it's like, alright, Eddie, get him out of here right away. And just try to think positive.
you know, just you, you try, I try to learn from it right away. And I don't think you try to let doubt creep in your mind, like, Oh, I don't know if I can still do this. Like, that's not a good way to think. So if those creep, if those thoughts do kind of creep in, it's like, alright, Eddie, get him out of here right away. And just try to think positive.
And, and if you do make a mistake, how do you learn from it, move on. That's like the best way that I've tried to learn over my years of doing this for so long.
And, and if you do make a mistake, how do you learn from it, move on. That's like the best way that I've tried to learn over my years of doing this for so long.
In moments, sometimes your mind will wander, you know, but those are rare, you know, in like certain spots like we're running around like Daytona or something and you're kind of just saving gas and not really a lot of stuff going on. You might think about other things a little bit, what you watched on TV, this new song you heard, but that doesn't go on for very long.
In moments, sometimes your mind will wander, you know, but those are rare, you know, in like certain spots like we're running around like Daytona or something and you're kind of just saving gas and not really a lot of stuff going on. You might think about other things a little bit, what you watched on TV, this new song you heard, but that doesn't go on for very long.
So it's very rare that that happens. I don't know. I can't speak for anybody else. Maybe I'm a little... get a little like ADD or something like that, that I have to like, sometimes I think about other stuff, but it doesn't happen very often. You're so just engrossed in this, you know, competition that you're doing that you can't really let it wander.
So it's very rare that that happens. I don't know. I can't speak for anybody else. Maybe I'm a little... get a little like ADD or something like that, that I have to like, sometimes I think about other stuff, but it doesn't happen very often. You're so just engrossed in this, you know, competition that you're doing that you can't really let it wander.
So I would say like that's a 1% of the time that that'll happen.
So I would say like that's a 1% of the time that that'll happen.
The only times I dream about racing is like fears. Like one of my biggest fears is sleeping in. and missing like the start of the race or missing practice. I've had a couple of those dreams where I wake up in the dream and like cars are on the track and like I've missed practice or the race. Like that's the biggest thing of me being late.
The only times I dream about racing is like fears. Like one of my biggest fears is sleeping in. and missing like the start of the race or missing practice. I've had a couple of those dreams where I wake up in the dream and like cars are on the track and like I've missed practice or the race. Like that's the biggest thing of me being late.
But other than that, I don't really ever dream about racing. It's always weird stuff, you know, like normal dreams are. But those are the only racing dreams I have because I think it's just like a big fear of mine because I have slept in before and I've been late. That was way back in the day. But I think that's the only thing that ever creeps me in.
But other than that, I don't really ever dream about racing. It's always weird stuff, you know, like normal dreams are. But those are the only racing dreams I have because I think it's just like a big fear of mine because I have slept in before and I've been late. That was way back in the day. But I think that's the only thing that ever creeps me in.
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff outside the racetrack that you have to do and You know, it's, you know, being on a great plane with your partners, you know, and, you know, doing all the stuff off the track that I don't think people really realize, you know, a best of, you know, whether it's, I mean, a great example, like running through a weekend, you know, you'll get there on Thursdays or Fridays.
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff outside the racetrack that you have to do and You know, it's, you know, being on a great plane with your partners, you know, and, you know, doing all the stuff off the track that I don't think people really realize, you know, a best of, you know, whether it's, I mean, a great example, like running through a weekend, you know, you'll get there on Thursdays or Fridays.
usually have like a partner dinner on one of the nights. And then all race day, you probably have three to five like partner appearances, kind of meet and greets, whether it's with, you know, customers of that sponsor that you got, you know, people who work for that company. There's a lot of stuff you do right before you get in the car.
usually have like a partner dinner on one of the nights. And then all race day, you probably have three to five like partner appearances, kind of meet and greets, whether it's with, you know, customers of that sponsor that you got, you know, people who work for that company. There's a lot of stuff you do right before you get in the car.
And then even through the week, you know, I got to go to Raleigh next week to do a photo shoot for advanced auto parts, you know, so you're kind of constantly running around. That stuff's important. And I think I got a good look at that growing up, you know, watching my dad have to do all that stuff. So it wasn't just racing.
And then even through the week, you know, I got to go to Raleigh next week to do a photo shoot for advanced auto parts, you know, so you're kind of constantly running around. That stuff's important. And I think I got a good look at that growing up, you know, watching my dad have to do all that stuff. So it wasn't just racing.
It's how do you also can connect to people that help you out, you know, and then kind of honestly put up the money to get you on the racetrack, right? That sponsors your race team. So all that stuff's really important. And I've been really lucky to have great relationships with all my partners over the years. It's neat because you get to meet awesome people that have the same interest as you.
It's how do you also can connect to people that help you out, you know, and then kind of honestly put up the money to get you on the racetrack, right? That sponsors your race team. So all that stuff's really important. And I've been really lucky to have great relationships with all my partners over the years. It's neat because you get to meet awesome people that have the same interest as you.
They're race fans and they love the sports. And then they can ask you questions about kind of the inner workings of it. So it works out. It's just part of the job. And we're pretty fortunate to be able to do that. So I never get to like, oh, I got to go do this for a partner. It's always exciting because you're happy to have them with you.
They're race fans and they love the sports. And then they can ask you questions about kind of the inner workings of it. So it works out. It's just part of the job. And we're pretty fortunate to be able to do that. So I never get to like, oh, I got to go do this for a partner. It's always exciting because you're happy to have them with you.
The worst part? Wrecking. That sucks. That's a good answer. That sucks. Like, that's the worst thing ever. Some of them are, hey, I got a pretty good gig, man. Like, I'm really lucky to do what I do. It's a privilege to be able to drive cars for a living. And that's just part of it, right, is you're going to get in wrecks, and some of them are going to be worse than others.
The worst part? Wrecking. That sucks. That's a good answer. That sucks. Like, that's the worst thing ever. Some of them are, hey, I got a pretty good gig, man. Like, I'm really lucky to do what I do. It's a privilege to be able to drive cars for a living. And that's just part of it, right, is you're going to get in wrecks, and some of them are going to be worse than others.
But that stuff sucks, whether you kind of get a little hurt or just know that you're done for the day. So that is by far the worst part of it. That's the only complaint I have about my sport is the wrecks don't feel very good.
But that stuff sucks, whether you kind of get a little hurt or just know that you're done for the day. So that is by far the worst part of it. That's the only complaint I have about my sport is the wrecks don't feel very good.
I'll tell you, the worst wrecks are the ones that you see coming. Like, okay, I'll give you an example. Probably the hardest wreck I've had in the last year was right at Daytona. You're riding around there in a big train and I got hooked in the right rear and you go right head on into the fence, right? Going 200 miles an hour.
I'll tell you, the worst wrecks are the ones that you see coming. Like, okay, I'll give you an example. Probably the hardest wreck I've had in the last year was right at Daytona. You're riding around there in a big train and I got hooked in the right rear and you go right head on into the fence, right? Going 200 miles an hour.
And that half a second, by the time you get turned, by the time you hit the fence, it feels like an eternity, you know, because you know there's nothing you can do about this. You're just waiting for a big hit. Those are the worst ones by far. Some of them, you know, happen a little bit quicker that you don't really expect it.
And that half a second, by the time you get turned, by the time you hit the fence, it feels like an eternity, you know, because you know there's nothing you can do about this. You're just waiting for a big hit. Those are the worst ones by far. Some of them, you know, happen a little bit quicker that you don't really expect it.
But if you get to think about it before you actually hit, that's the worst part. But the safety side has gotten, you know, just in the last 20 years, I think it's gotten pretty amazing. I mean, there's still things that need to get better. But, yeah, the ones that take the longest, and I mean take the longest by like half a second, a second, you realize you're going to wreck.
But if you get to think about it before you actually hit, that's the worst part. But the safety side has gotten, you know, just in the last 20 years, I think it's gotten pretty amazing. I mean, there's still things that need to get better. But, yeah, the ones that take the longest, and I mean take the longest by like half a second, a second, you realize you're going to wreck.
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Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time. Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. or bottle whatever your preference.
Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. You'll take a sip, look around, see your family, and know you immediately made the best decision possible.
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Because Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. Simple ingredients like malted barley for rich, balanced toffee note flavors in the iconic golden color. The original light beer since 1975 and still the best one. Making memories at year-end gatherings? Tastes like Miller time! Go to MillerLight.com to find delivery options near you.
Because Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. Simple ingredients like malted barley for rich, balanced toffee note flavors in the iconic golden color. The original light beer since 1975 and still the best one. Making memories at year-end gatherings? Tastes like Miller time! Go to MillerLight.com to find delivery options near you.
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Or you can pick up some Miller Light pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Fewer calories and carbs than premium regular beer.
We do all look the same. Oh, God damn. Oh, no. Guys, all right, relax. I slipped up.
We do all look the same. Oh, God damn. Oh, no. Guys, all right, relax. I slipped up.
I care more about Matthew Kachuk than I do my daughter.
I care more about Matthew Kachuk than I do my daughter.
He's a mega star. Internet chat agrees.
He's a mega star. Internet chat agrees.
thank you oh god um so like i i think that was that was very well said by you but here in like the american sports lexicon you describe somebody being soft so i can go on like a three minute soliloquy describing exactly why somebody's soft or i can just label them soft which is a lot easier more efficient and it's why steven a smith is going to command 150 million dollars it's
thank you oh god um so like i i think that was that was very well said by you but here in like the american sports lexicon you describe somebody being soft so i can go on like a three minute soliloquy describing exactly why somebody's soft or i can just label them soft which is a lot easier more efficient and it's why steven a smith is going to command 150 million dollars it's
It's amazing. I couldn't hear what you said, but just thank you for the compliment.
It's amazing. I couldn't hear what you said, but just thank you for the compliment.
Balance.
Balance.
Alrighty.
Alrighty.
Needs more Taylor.
Needs more Taylor.
I'm a VIP. You a VIP? Always.
I'm a VIP. You a VIP? Always.
Wow. What is happening around here? It's the AMI thing. Like that ami sound. It's a tricky one. That is the lamest of excuses.
Wow. What is happening around here? It's the AMI thing. Like that ami sound. It's a tricky one. That is the lamest of excuses.
No, it's just efficiency. I've got to fit it in 140 characters, and I can't fit what you said in 140 characters. And to Dan, I understand what you're doing, and this is a great discussion, but I think even you would concede, when you watch the Ravens versus the Steelers, let me take this example out to the extreme. You can see it, right? It looks different. Those teams look more physical.
No, it's just efficiency. I've got to fit it in 140 characters, and I can't fit what you said in 140 characters. And to Dan, I understand what you're doing, and this is a great discussion, but I think even you would concede, when you watch the Ravens versus the Steelers, let me take this example out to the extreme. You can see it, right? It looks different. Those teams look more physical.
That's all that's happening. I'm just an out-and-out racist. Out in the open, that's what we need.
That's all that's happening. I'm just an out-and-out racist. Out in the open, that's what we need.
My card is on the table, and it's a race card.
My card is on the table, and it's a race card.
Yeah, American Psycho.
Yeah, American Psycho.
There's genetics. There's genetics. Some people don't have to work out. I have my friend College Mike. That guy drinks a lot of beer.
There's genetics. There's genetics. Some people don't have to work out. I have my friend College Mike. That guy drinks a lot of beer.
That can't be. He also doesn't eat for joy. He just eats for fuel.
That can't be. He also doesn't eat for joy. He just eats for fuel.
I'm going to have my friend College Mike send me a pic.
I'm going to have my friend College Mike send me a pic.
The game looks more violent. Those teams look tougher.
The game looks more violent. Those teams look tougher.
Yeah. No, I often look at people that take care of their bodies, and I'm like, they're the problem.
Yeah. No, I often look at people that take care of their bodies, and I'm like, they're the problem.
I got it right. That person is clearly a psycho.
I got it right. That person is clearly a psycho.
Yeah. You mean like leathery skin. Cushion for the pushing you're talking about.
Yeah. You mean like leathery skin. Cushion for the pushing you're talking about.
He basically said Zagaki afterwards, though.
He basically said Zagaki afterwards, though.
Mine were so good. Why'd you do this?
Mine were so good. Why'd you do this?
tough yeah well i i pose this question to diana like have you considered that there's a correlation they're a good defense because they're also very tough like diana like are there good defenses usually that's the ingredient mike you're you're you are spot on like the ingredient
tough yeah well i i pose this question to diana like have you considered that there's a correlation they're a good defense because they're also very tough like diana like are there good defenses usually that's the ingredient mike you're you're you are spot on like the ingredient
You're not
You're not
I love this show because this is a great segment on mental health. This is a photo of my friend College Mike's abs. He doesn't work out really at all. He drinks a lot of beer. He's a great hang. But look, you see that? Let's get rid of that lower third right there. Let's see these abs pop there. This guy's just gifted. He has an ab. No, no, no. That's six.
I love this show because this is a great segment on mental health. This is a photo of my friend College Mike's abs. He doesn't work out really at all. He drinks a lot of beer. He's a great hang. But look, you see that? Let's get rid of that lower third right there. Let's see these abs pop there. This guy's just gifted. He has an ab. No, no, no. That's six.
I counted six. Maybe it's the lighting in there. But Dan, you can see this guy has abs and he doesn't really care about taking care of his body.
I counted six. Maybe it's the lighting in there. But Dan, you can see this guy has abs and he doesn't really care about taking care of his body.
Really? Yeah. I mean, there's the definition. Dan, your thoughts?
Really? Yeah. I mean, there's the definition. Dan, your thoughts?
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time. Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. Or bottle whatever your preference.
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time. Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. Or bottle whatever your preference.
Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. Take a sip, look around, see your family, and know you immediately made the best decision possible. Because Miller Lite is brewed for taste.
Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. Take a sip, look around, see your family, and know you immediately made the best decision possible. Because Miller Lite is brewed for taste.
It hits different than other light beers. Simple ingredients. like malted barley for rich, balanced toffee note flavors in the iconic golden color. The original light beer since 1975, and still the best one. Making memories at year-end gatherings? Tastes like Miller time!
It hits different than other light beers. Simple ingredients. like malted barley for rich, balanced toffee note flavors in the iconic golden color. The original light beer since 1975, and still the best one. Making memories at year-end gatherings? Tastes like Miller time!
Go to MillerLight.com to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up some Miller Light pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Fewer calories and carbs than premium regular beer.
Go to MillerLight.com to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up some Miller Light pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Fewer calories and carbs than premium regular beer.
Miles came back in that game. But also, my problem with Joel Embiid is not that he's just like this unfortunate dude that gets injuries. I think I can understand that concept. I'm a huge Chelsea fan. Rhys James, hammy's cooked. He's going to try to run out there. He's going to pull his hammy. That's just his body type. I resent Joel Embiid because of his style of play.
Miles came back in that game. But also, my problem with Joel Embiid is not that he's just like this unfortunate dude that gets injuries. I think I can understand that concept. I'm a huge Chelsea fan. Rhys James, hammy's cooked. He's going to try to run out there. He's going to pull his hammy. That's just his body type. I resent Joel Embiid because of his style of play.
He's flopping around, his lack thereof when it comes to conditioning. And also, I resent him for avoiding injury when he's perfectly fine in a suit on the bench. I want to see Joel Embiid go out there and eventually get hurt.
He's flopping around, his lack thereof when it comes to conditioning. And also, I resent him for avoiding injury when he's perfectly fine in a suit on the bench. I want to see Joel Embiid go out there and eventually get hurt.
But they're still one of the best places to work in New Jersey, according to a franchise source.
But they're still one of the best places to work in New Jersey, according to a franchise source.
It's unfortunate that Diana had to go because this is a bad week for the Jets, and I still think the saddest story about all of this is we all know openly, Diana's reported on it, Bill Belichick has opened disdain for Woody Johnson, hates the New York Jets, right? Did you read the report that Bill Belichick circled around to the Jets? before he took the North Carolina job. Hey, this is your shot.
It's unfortunate that Diana had to go because this is a bad week for the Jets, and I still think the saddest story about all of this is we all know openly, Diana's reported on it, Bill Belichick has opened disdain for Woody Johnson, hates the New York Jets, right? Did you read the report that Bill Belichick circled around to the Jets? before he took the North Carolina job. Hey, this is your shot.
That, to me, is the saddest detail around the Bill Belichick stuff, and it's not him just lurking in the background as he signs a player from Holy Cross.
That, to me, is the saddest detail around the Bill Belichick stuff, and it's not him just lurking in the background as he signs a player from Holy Cross.
Hey everybody, it's Mike Ryan, and I'm super excited to talk to you about Roan. This is a great company. I was introduced to them a couple years ago. I thought everything that they made was super comfy and looked great, and now they're aboard, and I'm wearing one of their shirts right now, and I'm getting so many compliments on it. As seasons change, so should your wardrobe.
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Are they so hard to find? Like there was like a mac nut shortage.
Are they so hard to find? Like there was like a mac nut shortage.
Like the price went up like crazy.
Like the price went up like crazy.
Have you ever had an Iranian pistachio? Okay.
Have you ever had an Iranian pistachio? Okay.
Iranian nut? Dude, the Iranian pistachio, I don't know how much I can reveal because I don't even think that it's legal to eat them here. I was given them by an Iranian. Iran. And it was incredible. It doesn't even taste like a pistachio. It's the greatest pistachio I've ever had.
Iranian nut? Dude, the Iranian pistachio, I don't know how much I can reveal because I don't even think that it's legal to eat them here. I was given them by an Iranian. Iran. And it was incredible. It doesn't even taste like a pistachio. It's the greatest pistachio I've ever had.
He was on for about three minutes. It was bad. I don't think Dan got... Dan did one of those claps, and when he puts two claps over his... All right, we're done here.
He was on for about three minutes. It was bad. I don't think Dan got... Dan did one of those claps, and when he puts two claps over his... All right, we're done here.
We just kind of... It was just two left feet. It was essentially two left feet.
We just kind of... It was just two left feet. It was essentially two left feet.
It's amazing that I haven't broken my teeth on a corn nut.
It's amazing that I haven't broken my teeth on a corn nut.
The ranch?
The ranch?
Dude, the ranch? Ew. I understand why you're ill. I get it. Look, I'm not actively eating corn nuts right now. I haven't had a corn nut in a couple years. Let me lick this thing out. Sometimes you're like, man, I could go for a corn nut.
Dude, the ranch? Ew. I understand why you're ill. I get it. Look, I'm not actively eating corn nuts right now. I haven't had a corn nut in a couple years. Let me lick this thing out. Sometimes you're like, man, I could go for a corn nut.
I don't know if I've ever had a corn nut.
I don't know if I've ever had a corn nut.
Really? Aren't you a baseball guy? Yeah. Isn't that like one of the baseball snacks? Sunflower seeds. Yeah, seeds. I understand. That's why I'm classifying it as one of those snacks.
Really? Aren't you a baseball guy? Yeah. Isn't that like one of the baseball snacks? Sunflower seeds. Yeah, seeds. I understand. That's why I'm classifying it as one of those snacks.
And you don't have to spit this one out. Yeah. Like it's crunchy. It gives you.
And you don't have to spit this one out. Yeah. Like it's crunchy. It gives you.
What are my other Midwestern tendencies? Rooting for the Cleveland Browns.
What are my other Midwestern tendencies? Rooting for the Cleveland Browns.
But a real city slicker type of view, though, by saying, no, I'm sorry, I can't go on with this.
But a real city slicker type of view, though, by saying, no, I'm sorry, I can't go on with this.
No. Well, both. The Browns and corn nuts.
No. Well, both. The Browns and corn nuts.
Look, everyone says this guy's going to be the number one pick, and the Browns are presently slotted at two. But we haven't measured his hands. I don't know if those hands are small. They're kind of small. They're small.
Look, everyone says this guy's going to be the number one pick, and the Browns are presently slotted at two. But we haven't measured his hands. I don't know if those hands are small. They're kind of small. They're small.
It's a thing. Once he goes through the process, you're going to see a whole bunch of, oh, his hands are small.
It's a thing. Once he goes through the process, you're going to see a whole bunch of, oh, his hands are small.
Did I deflect enough? I think I did.
Did I deflect enough? I think I did.
Fumbling. When he was at Wazoo, he fumbled once a game. Not fumbles lost, but fumbled the ball. And then I actually...
Fumbling. When he was at Wazoo, he fumbled once a game. Not fumbles lost, but fumbled the ball. And then I actually...
watch the film on like those fumbles all 22 and his protect his protection was so bad at wazoo that he would literally be at the line he did this a lot in miami we didn't have like that super fast of a pacey offense he would really just try to read the defense to the very last second a lot of the the fumbles were just like him doing that not looking the snap comes at him and he picks it right up and he goes but the small hands it is a thing he had a couple of like high profile fumbles this season with miami that you can maybe attribute a bigger hand
watch the film on like those fumbles all 22 and his protect his protection was so bad at wazoo that he would literally be at the line he did this a lot in miami we didn't have like that super fast of a pacey offense he would really just try to read the defense to the very last second a lot of the the fumbles were just like him doing that not looking the snap comes at him and he picks it right up and he goes but the small hands it is a thing he had a couple of like high profile fumbles this season with miami that you can maybe attribute a bigger hand
I like where Juju's head's at. I love it. Because there was a lot of people talking about Travis Kelsey last season, and then he entered the postseason, and he had an all-time postseason. So it's another opportunity for Travis Kelsey to put some of those criticisms. Let that body heal for a week as well. And you know, Patrick Mahomes is going to go to the well. Hey, howdy, listener.
I like where Juju's head's at. I love it. Because there was a lot of people talking about Travis Kelsey last season, and then he entered the postseason, and he had an all-time postseason. So it's another opportunity for Travis Kelsey to put some of those criticisms. Let that body heal for a week as well. And you know, Patrick Mahomes is going to go to the well. Hey, howdy, listener.
Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer.
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He doesn't own any part of it. Can we spoil? It's been years now. We can spoil what happened to the last Bond, right? Of course.
He doesn't own any part of it. Can we spoil? It's been years now. We can spoil what happened to the last Bond, right? Of course.
All right, spoiler alert for people that haven't watched the last Bond. James Bond is dead.
All right, spoiler alert for people that haven't watched the last Bond. James Bond is dead.
He died. 007, that is. Yeah. He comes back. No, 007's still around. See, that's right.
He died. 007, that is. Yeah. He comes back. No, 007's still around. See, that's right.
No, that's a title. That's a title. Yeah, no. James Bond. Bond, James Bond. Dead. I don't really know how they come back from this one.
No, that's a title. That's a title. Yeah, no. James Bond. Bond, James Bond. Dead. I don't really know how they come back from this one.
Yeah, the Demeter, or is it Demeter? Either way, there was a whole bad movie made on just that ship voyage, which is super frustrating because I'm like, guys, look for it during the day. All these bad things are happening at night. It's right, like it's a ship. You're not covering a lot of ground. Just look for it during the day. We all know where all this stuff is coming from.
Yeah, the Demeter, or is it Demeter? Either way, there was a whole bad movie made on just that ship voyage, which is super frustrating because I'm like, guys, look for it during the day. All these bad things are happening at night. It's right, like it's a ship. You're not covering a lot of ground. Just look for it during the day. We all know where all this stuff is coming from.
There's dirt everywhere coming from these caskets. Guys are missing. Just look for it during the day.
There's dirt everywhere coming from these caskets. Guys are missing. Just look for it during the day.
Take it out of preview. Here's the new Bond. You know, he did the reverse Belichick. His partner is a much older woman.
Take it out of preview. Here's the new Bond. You know, he did the reverse Belichick. His partner is a much older woman.
This dude is having his moment right now.
This dude is having his moment right now.
I think much more than four or five. You've got Connery, Moore, Daltrey. Frazier. Dalton. Dalton. Not Roger Daltrey. Timothy Dalton.
I think much more than four or five. You've got Connery, Moore, Daltrey. Frazier. Dalton. Dalton. Not Roger Daltrey. Timothy Dalton.
There was one more 007 because for a moment, 007 is assumed by another person in the last one. So there have been more 007s than James Bonds.
There was one more 007 because for a moment, 007 is assumed by another person in the last one. So there have been more 007s than James Bonds.
How do you get the jokes without... I've played GoldenEye.
How do you get the jokes without... I've played GoldenEye.
That's a great question, Mike.
That's a great question, Mike.
You should watch James Bond to really unlock this movie, because I know you like it. I still thought it was funny.
You should watch James Bond to really unlock this movie, because I know you like it. I still thought it was funny.
You know my concept for where to take the James Bond franchise since he's now dead? You go back in time. You take the source material and you do period pieces from when those books were written. Noir.
You know my concept for where to take the James Bond franchise since he's now dead? You go back in time. You take the source material and you do period pieces from when those books were written. Noir.
Who's been bigger at the box office? Because James Bond has more films. But let's look it up. James Bond versus the MI franchise.
Who's been bigger at the box office? Because James Bond has more films. But let's look it up. James Bond versus the MI franchise.
the 60s mission impossible took a long break between the 60s all the bonds have been relatively relevant through what is it six seven decades now i think i would take jurassic park over it i would take potentially star wars for sure lord of the rings has more meat on that bone harry potter i'd probably take it over james bond i watched dune the other night not there yet but they're starting to spin that baby off
the 60s mission impossible took a long break between the 60s all the bonds have been relatively relevant through what is it six seven decades now i think i would take jurassic park over it i would take potentially star wars for sure lord of the rings has more meat on that bone harry potter i'd probably take it over james bond i watched dune the other night not there yet but they're starting to spin that baby off
I wasn't a big Dune guy, cinematically. Do you like Timothee Chalamet? You know, I wanted to like Dune, but I just didn't. Didn't everybody love him on college game day? I feel like he smelled good there. Oh, yeah. No, I think he might actually know ball. Or he really prepared for this role. He was probably the best guest picker in ages. He was phenomenal.
I wasn't a big Dune guy, cinematically. Do you like Timothee Chalamet? You know, I wanted to like Dune, but I just didn't. Didn't everybody love him on college game day? I feel like he smelled good there. Oh, yeah. No, I think he might actually know ball. Or he really prepared for this role. He was probably the best guest picker in ages. He was phenomenal.
He invoked MAACtion, which right then and there... And he was right, by the way.
He invoked MAACtion, which right then and there... And he was right, by the way.
Yeah, but was he running lines?
Yeah, but was he running lines?
Exactly. That's usually not something that's afforded to a 28-year-old man. especially appearing on one of cable TV's most popular sports shows.
Exactly. That's usually not something that's afforded to a 28-year-old man. especially appearing on one of cable TV's most popular sports shows.
Did you see the news, the casting news regarding Austin Butler?
Did you see the news, the casting news regarding Austin Butler?
I am not happy about this. Dan, I know you like American Psycho. It's one of my favorite films. Top five film for me. One of the greatest dark comedies ever made. Don't touch it. But they're remaking it. Or a new spin on an old classic. Austin Butler has been cast as Patrick Bateman, according to reports. I don't like this one.
I am not happy about this. Dan, I know you like American Psycho. It's one of my favorite films. Top five film for me. One of the greatest dark comedies ever made. Don't touch it. But they're remaking it. Or a new spin on an old classic. Austin Butler has been cast as Patrick Bateman, according to reports. I don't like this one.
That part's not true.
That part's not true.
He's been doing the Elvis accent since he did the movie. He was forced to stop, actually.
He's been doing the Elvis accent since he did the movie. He was forced to stop, actually.
The last act.
The last act.
But, Tony, I have a question for you. Okay. Do you think Austin Butler straddles the line between genius and hack the way that Walken and Nicolas Cage did? Because I kind of think he's bordering on bad actor. So bad that he's good? That he's becoming a bit of a caricature of himself, and you don't do that in your 20s. I guarantee you, here's my bold prediction for Austin Butler.
But, Tony, I have a question for you. Okay. Do you think Austin Butler straddles the line between genius and hack the way that Walken and Nicolas Cage did? Because I kind of think he's bordering on bad actor. So bad that he's good? That he's becoming a bit of a caricature of himself, and you don't do that in your 20s. I guarantee you, here's my bold prediction for Austin Butler.
Ten years from now, he's going to make an appearance that will revitalize his career in a comedy where he pokes fun at himself because he's just become too outrageous a human.
Ten years from now, he's going to make an appearance that will revitalize his career in a comedy where he pokes fun at himself because he's just become too outrageous a human.
Busey, Cage, Walken. These are the guys. Good job invoking Busey. He belongs in that class.
Busey, Cage, Walken. These are the guys. Good job invoking Busey. He belongs in that class.
He's straddling the line. He's straddling the line. It's a very thin line. Look, it's gone. We've seen Nick Cage straddle the line and go well over the line and become a punchline. This guy's crazy. It's like Bad Lieutenant. It's because he needed the money. Oh, a lie! It's a long list, Anno.
He's straddling the line. He's straddling the line. It's a very thin line. Look, it's gone. We've seen Nick Cage straddle the line and go well over the line and become a punchline. This guy's crazy. It's like Bad Lieutenant. It's because he needed the money. Oh, a lie! It's a long list, Anno.
No. The sequel was a sequel. The first one was great. I just don't like the Austin Butler casting either as Patrick Bateman. You can play one of the other ancillary roles. Give him Thoreau's role. No, don't give him Patrick Bateman.
No. The sequel was a sequel. The first one was great. I just don't like the Austin Butler casting either as Patrick Bateman. You can play one of the other ancillary roles. Give him Thoreau's role. No, don't give him Patrick Bateman.
That dude from Euphoria and Saltburn, that should be Patrick Bateman. Barry Keane? No, Lordy.
That dude from Euphoria and Saltburn, that should be Patrick Bateman. Barry Keane? No, Lordy.
A million times better, and Austin Butler actually kills that assignment.
A million times better, and Austin Butler actually kills that assignment.
If Hateful Eight was made by somebody else, I don't think we'd give it this much of a runway.
If Hateful Eight was made by somebody else, I don't think we'd give it this much of a runway.
You would have been like, this might just be bad. Not your list. Yep.
You would have been like, this might just be bad. Not your list. Yep.
Wait a minute. No, he's right. I'm going to go see Taylor.
Wait a minute. No, he's right. I'm going to go see Taylor.
Exploitation.
Exploitation.
No, he saw Django, the one with action. I saw Django. Django was incredible. He saw the Western with action. Okay, there's a theme here.
No, he saw Django, the one with action. I saw Django. Django was incredible. He saw the Western with action. Okay, there's a theme here.
Don't sound too excited about it.
Don't sound too excited about it.
Mustard. This is one of the few windows.
Mustard. This is one of the few windows.
Number two, Inglourious Bastards. Probably the best movie Tarantino's ever made. Agreed. We agree there. You had one bad take on Tarantino, but you rallied. That's fine.
Number two, Inglourious Bastards. Probably the best movie Tarantino's ever made. Agreed. We agree there. You had one bad take on Tarantino, but you rallied. That's fine.
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I've never seen that. I haven't gotten around to it. I've heard of it. I'd rather watch a Truman Show.
I've never seen that. I haven't gotten around to it. I've heard of it. I'd rather watch a Truman Show.
This concept was done better with Jim Carrey, so I was just moving on.
This concept was done better with Jim Carrey, so I was just moving on.
Mine was way better, right?
Mine was way better, right?
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Not in action movies. The keys are always up on that visor, and I don't understand it. Idiots. Where is this? I mean, what kind of life of security must you live? Well, wait a second. Didn't you have your key in your car for like three years? That was a mistake. I had no idea it was there. Yeah, I had a spare key that was in the... Someone could have just walked up to my car and driven it away.
Not in action movies. The keys are always up on that visor, and I don't understand it. Idiots. Where is this? I mean, what kind of life of security must you live? Well, wait a second. Didn't you have your key in your car for like three years? That was a mistake. I had no idea it was there. Yeah, I had a spare key that was in the... Someone could have just walked up to my car and driven it away.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't recall. It might have been in the crack.
I don't recall. It might have been in the crack.
I have no idea what's happening there. He comes out firing. He clearly has some longstanding issue with Shams whenever he reports on Jimmy Butler, I guess, specifically. This was unexpected and you don't really see anybody going at Shams specifically like this.
I have no idea what's happening there. He comes out firing. He clearly has some longstanding issue with Shams whenever he reports on Jimmy Butler, I guess, specifically. This was unexpected and you don't really see anybody going at Shams specifically like this.
All right, listen. And then read.
All right, listen. And then read.
People went after Woj a little bit. LeBron's camp would go after Woj through their different avenues. I don't think I've ever really seen anything like this as it pertains to Shams, who once reported before anyone that Donald Trump got COVID.
People went after Woj a little bit. LeBron's camp would go after Woj through their different avenues. I don't think I've ever really seen anything like this as it pertains to Shams, who once reported before anyone that Donald Trump got COVID.
But how does this end? Because there needs to be a victor here. If this ends with Jimmy Butler getting traded to one of the teams that Shams outlined before, then that's a whole lot of pomp and circumstance for you to end up being wrong in the end.
But how does this end? Because there needs to be a victor here. If this ends with Jimmy Butler getting traded to one of the teams that Shams outlined before, then that's a whole lot of pomp and circumstance for you to end up being wrong in the end.
But are we also to ignore what Jimmy did in the offseason? Hey, those purple and gold uniforms look good. We're just going to pretend everything is just kumbaya over here in Miami? This is part of the Jimmy Butler playbook. And this is how he kind of operates, especially when there are seeds or beyond seeds of him outgrowing a place, which has happened several times.
But are we also to ignore what Jimmy did in the offseason? Hey, those purple and gold uniforms look good. We're just going to pretend everything is just kumbaya over here in Miami? This is part of the Jimmy Butler playbook. And this is how he kind of operates, especially when there are seeds or beyond seeds of him outgrowing a place, which has happened several times.
A lot of people want a lot of things, though. They don't always get what they want, especially when the Miami Heat want a superstar to demand a trade. Look, I want Aaron Taylor Johnson's abs. I'm craving them. I don't even know who that is.
A lot of people want a lot of things, though. They don't always get what they want, especially when the Miami Heat want a superstar to demand a trade. Look, I want Aaron Taylor Johnson's abs. I'm craving them. I don't even know who that is.
I'm going to see it Christmas Day night.
I'm going to see it Christmas Day night.
I'm coming out of a casket. Well, sarcophagus. Don't call it a casket because in Nosferatu we don't call it a casket.
I'm coming out of a casket. Well, sarcophagus. Don't call it a casket because in Nosferatu we don't call it a casket.
No, no, Nosferatu is not a Satan name. It's the name for the undead, the vampire.
No, no, Nosferatu is not a Satan name. It's the name for the undead, the vampire.
Have you seen Nosferatu? Because no one's really seen him. It's a ship. All you get is just the eyes.
Have you seen Nosferatu? Because no one's really seen him. It's a ship. All you get is just the eyes.
This is, you know who directed this film? Robert Eggers, the guy that did The Lighthouse. This is his fourth feature film. He did The Vitch. He did The Northman, The Vitch. And he did The Lighthouse, which is a Christmas movie. So this is the most marketing he's ever had behind it. I'm literally wearing a collaboration for a cologne. I'm so hyped for this. Christmas Day night, the cinema.
This is, you know who directed this film? Robert Eggers, the guy that did The Lighthouse. This is his fourth feature film. He did The Vitch. He did The Northman, The Vitch. And he did The Lighthouse, which is a Christmas movie. So this is the most marketing he's ever had behind it. I'm literally wearing a collaboration for a cologne. I'm so hyped for this. Christmas Day night, the cinema.
It's haunting. Do you want to smell it? It smells like Count Orlok's cave. I can't smell it. It smells okay. Thank you. It does smell like a cave. It does smell like a cave, but a nice cave.
It's haunting. Do you want to smell it? It smells like Count Orlok's cave. I can't smell it. It smells okay. Thank you. It does smell like a cave. It does smell like a cave, but a nice cave.
inviting an inviting cape so basically this is just a remake of the 1922 silent film the seminal german silent film that was basically bram stoker's dracula but without using the names so it's a darker twist on this because the count is actually undead even though it's dracula doesn't go by dracula it goes by orlok and it's supposed to be Incredible. And this is a seminal movie event.
inviting an inviting cape so basically this is just a remake of the 1922 silent film the seminal german silent film that was basically bram stoker's dracula but without using the names so it's a darker twist on this because the count is actually undead even though it's dracula doesn't go by dracula it goes by orlok and it's supposed to be Incredible. And this is a seminal movie event.
Comes out Christmas Day night. And all the little goth kids and all the little emos and all the little vampy kids are going to be super excited because Eggers always delivers. All four of his films, over 90% on the Rotten Tomatoes meter, including this one.
Comes out Christmas Day night. And all the little goth kids and all the little emos and all the little vampy kids are going to be super excited because Eggers always delivers. All four of his films, over 90% on the Rotten Tomatoes meter, including this one.
What? Nosferatu.
What? Nosferatu.
You haven't seen the 1922 silent film? You're a cinephile. That should be required viewing for anybody.
You haven't seen the 1922 silent film? You're a cinephile. That should be required viewing for anybody.
I did, and he did, and I watched it last week. And this one, they don't call him Nosferatu or Count Orlok. He's just Dracula, but he looks Nosferatu, like 1922. Now, everybody's got their original names. Lots of rats in that film.
I did, and he did, and I watched it last week. And this one, they don't call him Nosferatu or Count Orlok. He's just Dracula, but he looks Nosferatu, like 1922. Now, everybody's got their original names. Lots of rats in that film.
Was that the last voyage of the Demeter? That one stunk. Regardless. In all the Dracula war. That was a 40.
Was that the last voyage of the Demeter? That one stunk. Regardless. In all the Dracula war. That was a 40.
Injuries.
Injuries.
I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House. And Tom and I are the same age. And Tom is a coach that's always on the cutting edge. And I really enjoyed our association together. and he would always come up with new training techniques.
I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House. And Tom and I are the same age. And Tom is a coach that's always on the cutting edge. And I really enjoyed our association together. and he would always come up with new training techniques.
And because of our friendship and Tom pushing me, I think I got in the best shape of my life during the years that I was with the Rangers.
And because of our friendship and Tom pushing me, I think I got in the best shape of my life during the years that I was with the Rangers.
Oh, my God. I can't believe this. This is like literally gut. This hurts me more than not getting Durant. The idea that they're going to lose PJ. You've got to be kidding me.
Oh, my God. I can't believe this. This is like literally gut. This hurts me more than not getting Durant. The idea that they're going to lose PJ. You've got to be kidding me.
It's so sad because there's the photo that I love when Andy Ellsberg... That's Andy.
It's so sad because there's the photo that I love when Andy Ellsberg... That's Andy.
Sure. No, the moment is Nikoli Jokic commits a crime on the court and he hits Marquise Morris in the back. And the whole team is being held back by Andy Ellsberg, of all people, menacingly looking like we're going to kick Jokic's ass. And I got the photo framed and then they played Jokic and they never did anything. So it's sort of a nothing moment now.
Sure. No, the moment is Nikoli Jokic commits a crime on the court and he hits Marquise Morris in the back. And the whole team is being held back by Andy Ellsberg, of all people, menacingly looking like we're going to kick Jokic's ass. And I got the photo framed and then they played Jokic and they never did anything. So it's sort of a nothing moment now.
You know he's the one that did it, right? Well, I don't know because there's five people that make decisions, but I'm at the point now where I've had enough of Riley. I'm good. I'm good on Pat Riley. Thank you for everything you've done. Please, please leave. I've had enough.
You know he's the one that did it, right? Well, I don't know because there's five people that make decisions, but I'm at the point now where I've had enough of Riley. I'm good. I'm good on Pat Riley. Thank you for everything you've done. Please, please leave. I've had enough.
Well, watch your mouth. You sit in a literal glove. Like, who are you talking about with backgrounds?
Well, watch your mouth. You sit in a literal glove. Like, who are you talking about with backgrounds?
You literally sit in a glove.
You literally sit in a glove.
It's a parakeet 69 jersey. Show some respect.
It's a parakeet 69 jersey. Show some respect.
I have a Jimmy Butler jersey that I tried to put here and I was going to put tape over it, but I don't have any of the tape. So instead, I just have been using it to blow my nose. But listen, I've had enough of Pat Riley. Please.
I have a Jimmy Butler jersey that I tried to put here and I was going to put tape over it, but I don't have any of the tape. So instead, I just have been using it to blow my nose. But listen, I've had enough of Pat Riley. Please.
allegedly i like davion mitchell he has been referred to in the past as one of those guys that is sort of a heat culture player who's not on the heat yet i understand the interest getting rid of pj tucker is offensive to me like that's like the thing that you can't do that's ridiculous
allegedly i like davion mitchell he has been referred to in the past as one of those guys that is sort of a heat culture player who's not on the heat yet i understand the interest getting rid of pj tucker is offensive to me like that's like the thing that you can't do that's ridiculous
You're a Ben Simmons fan and you're going to sit there and talk trash. You would be grateful to have a heat culture player. You had a heat culture player in your midst and you didn't know what to do with him because your organization is a bumbling bunch of fools.
You're a Ben Simmons fan and you're going to sit there and talk trash. You would be grateful to have a heat culture player. You had a heat culture player in your midst and you didn't know what to do with him because your organization is a bumbling bunch of fools.
what he was better the two and three years after that when he was actually in the finals 56 points what are you talking about crazy i'm not ending the day with ryan cortez on the screen in front of we're at the end of the day already jersey i'm just not doing it 69 it's i'm not allowing i just what is your objection to parakeet 69 jersey it's if i have multiple parakeet do you want one listen it's nice
what he was better the two and three years after that when he was actually in the finals 56 points what are you talking about crazy i'm not ending the day with ryan cortez on the screen in front of we're at the end of the day already jersey i'm just not doing it 69 it's i'm not allowing i just what is your objection to parakeet 69 jersey it's if i have multiple parakeet do you want one listen it's nice
The oldest show ever.
The oldest show ever.
Oh, there it is. There it is. We've got a penalty. Five minutes. Major asshole. Major asshole, yes.
Oh, there it is. There it is. We've got a penalty. Five minutes. Major asshole. Major asshole, yes.
What the hell was that intro? You're a professional podcaster and journalist. I'm embarrassed by that last 20 seconds. I don't know what you're doing.
What the hell was that intro? You're a professional podcaster and journalist. I'm embarrassed by that last 20 seconds. I don't know what you're doing.
Oh, my God. So I just want to... Where are you? First of all, don't worry about where I am. I'm in Japan. Nice staircase. Beautiful background. David Sampson was right. The text I sent you was alarming. It was not meant for air. I sent it to you at a time where I did not know we had P.J. Tucker. That's what happened. And then I found out we got P.J. Tucker and everything's okay.
Oh, my God. So I just want to... Where are you? First of all, don't worry about where I am. I'm in Japan. Nice staircase. Beautiful background. David Sampson was right. The text I sent you was alarming. It was not meant for air. I sent it to you at a time where I did not know we had P.J. Tucker. That's what happened. And then I found out we got P.J. Tucker and everything's okay.
Like, today's a good day. I don't like how you guys are talking about this trade. Not only did we get P.J. Tucker... We got a lockdown defender. Do you want me to read you some stats? It's PJ Tucker. You just told us. Well, no, no, no. Not just PJ Tucker. I'm going to read you some stats. These are players' shooting numbers when guarded by Andrew Wiggins. Luka Doncic, 5 for 16.
Like, today's a good day. I don't like how you guys are talking about this trade. Not only did we get P.J. Tucker... We got a lockdown defender. Do you want me to read you some stats? It's PJ Tucker. You just told us. Well, no, no, no. Not just PJ Tucker. I'm going to read you some stats. These are players' shooting numbers when guarded by Andrew Wiggins. Luka Doncic, 5 for 16.
Anthony Edwards, 7 for 21. SGA, 5 for 12. Donovan Mitchell, 5 for 12. Cade Cunningham, Tony's favorite, 0 for 6. LeBron James, 3 for 9.
Anthony Edwards, 7 for 21. SGA, 5 for 12. Donovan Mitchell, 5 for 12. Cade Cunningham, Tony's favorite, 0 for 6. LeBron James, 3 for 9.
How is anyone going to score at the end of a game when it's Hero, Wiggins, Jovic, Bam, and Khalil Ware? How are you going to score a point?
How is anyone going to score at the end of a game when it's Hero, Wiggins, Jovic, Bam, and Khalil Ware? How are you going to score a point?
It's a good point. We're going to have to score on our own. But defensively, it's in the making.
It's a good point. We're going to have to score on our own. But defensively, it's in the making.
It's been a wild swing of emotions. I have, in the past 24 hours, tweeted about Pat Riley needing a new job. I have blocked Jimmy Butler. On Instagram. And I do think Pat Riley's at fault here. I think he should have either paid Jimmy or traded him a year ago, bringing him into this year with no new contract, no new teammates that are any good. Not a good idea.
It's been a wild swing of emotions. I have, in the past 24 hours, tweeted about Pat Riley needing a new job. I have blocked Jimmy Butler. On Instagram. And I do think Pat Riley's at fault here. I think he should have either paid Jimmy or traded him a year ago, bringing him into this year with no new contract, no new teammates that are any good. Not a good idea.
But now that we're here, I mean, Andrew Wiggins, go ahead to me.
But now that we're here, I mean, Andrew Wiggins, go ahead to me.
Where it got so heightened was I was texting people, would you trade Hero for Durant? Would you trade Bam for Durant? That's how bad I wanted Kevin Durant. I was willing to trade Bam out of bio for him. So, yeah, the... Pablo was asking, where were you when you heard the news? To me, that was an interesting question.
Where it got so heightened was I was texting people, would you trade Hero for Durant? Would you trade Bam for Durant? That's how bad I wanted Kevin Durant. I was willing to trade Bam out of bio for him. So, yeah, the... Pablo was asking, where were you when you heard the news? To me, that was an interesting question.
I was watching The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City reunion part three, and I got the news about Jimmy.
I was watching The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City reunion part three, and I got the news about Jimmy.
I had to turn off the show because what I was trying to do is read text while watching the great reunion. I couldn't do it, so I had to turn it off. But that's what I was doing.
I had to turn off the show because what I was trying to do is read text while watching the great reunion. I couldn't do it, so I had to turn it off. But that's what I was doing.
That's not how you pronounce that. Guava pastelito.
That's not how you pronounce that. Guava pastelito.
Amin said something interesting to me too, where he was saying Jimmy and Bernie are masters at making a mess of this. Great point. I think in retrospect, if Dame Lillard had done this playbook in Milwaukee, not only did the heat get him, but then domino effect, Jimmy no longer wants to leave. And then you've got Dame and Jimmy.
Amin said something interesting to me too, where he was saying Jimmy and Bernie are masters at making a mess of this. Great point. I think in retrospect, if Dame Lillard had done this playbook in Milwaukee, not only did the heat get him, but then domino effect, Jimmy no longer wants to leave. And then you've got Dame and Jimmy.
At the time this was happening with Dame, I was saying you need to make a mess. Dan was saying the same thing. It has to be Miami or nothing and you make a mess of it.
At the time this was happening with Dame, I was saying you need to make a mess. Dan was saying the same thing. It has to be Miami or nothing and you make a mess of it.
No, I mean, look, at this moment, he's a trader, and I don't want to retire his number, but the zoomed-out view is obviously it's an enormous success. Zach Lowe wrote two months before the Jimmy Butler trade that the Heat had the bleakest future of any team in the NBA, and he wasn't wrong. I mean, it was insane that they got Jimmy and got to finals.
No, I mean, look, at this moment, he's a trader, and I don't want to retire his number, but the zoomed-out view is obviously it's an enormous success. Zach Lowe wrote two months before the Jimmy Butler trade that the Heat had the bleakest future of any team in the NBA, and he wasn't wrong. I mean, it was insane that they got Jimmy and got to finals.
I mean, when they got Jimmy, as Dan has pointed out, that was supposed to be move number one, and then you get two or three guys. So the idea that just Jimmy... It was an enormous success. And I hope one day they do retire his number. But for now, he's dead to me.
I mean, when they got Jimmy, as Dan has pointed out, that was supposed to be move number one, and then you get two or three guys. So the idea that just Jimmy... It was an enormous success. And I hope one day they do retire his number. But for now, he's dead to me.
I'm not fooling anyone. I mean, look, I would have preferred to have Kevin Durant. I think if we get Kevin Durant, you get me with sunglasses today, you get a different version. It's hard to put on the sunglasses when it's Andrew Wiggins. But lockdown defender. And what I'm really excited about is P.J. Tucker. I can't lie. I like P.J.
I'm not fooling anyone. I mean, look, I would have preferred to have Kevin Durant. I think if we get Kevin Durant, you get me with sunglasses today, you get a different version. It's hard to put on the sunglasses when it's Andrew Wiggins. But lockdown defender. And what I'm really excited about is P.J. Tucker. I can't lie. I like P.J.
Tucker more than LeBron James when it comes to what they meant to the Heat. That's a legitimate take that I have.
Tucker more than LeBron James when it comes to what they meant to the Heat. That's a legitimate take that I have.
Well, if you count the one that I count, which is they were up in the first nine minutes of game one against the Lakers in that finals, and then bam, and Goran got hurt, I count that as a ring. So technically they have one to answer your question.
Well, if you count the one that I count, which is they were up in the first nine minutes of game one against the Lakers in that finals, and then bam, and Goran got hurt, I count that as a ring. So technically they have one to answer your question.
Two to one.
Two to one.
Ooze tanking, bro. You know what it is. No, I don't.
Ooze tanking, bro. You know what it is. No, I don't.
I can't believe you're still talking about this. Before I leave, just mention P.J. Tucker more. He's one of the all-time key culture players. For the love of God.
I can't believe you're still talking about this. Before I leave, just mention P.J. Tucker more. He's one of the all-time key culture players. For the love of God.
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So that guy who was breaking the news like the person whispering into George Bush's ear on 9-11.
So that guy who was breaking the news like the person whispering into George Bush's ear on 9-11.
Yeah, my connection goes all the way back to 2006 and 2007 when I interned at 790 The Ticket in South Florida. I am a Miami native. And so to have had the opportunity to shadow Dan, Mike Ryan, the shipping container back then, Jonathan Zaslow and Boog Shambi, George Sedano. I interned for Israel Gutierrez, who is my personal mentor at the Miami Herald. Yes.
Yeah, my connection goes all the way back to 2006 and 2007 when I interned at 790 The Ticket in South Florida. I am a Miami native. And so to have had the opportunity to shadow Dan, Mike Ryan, the shipping container back then, Jonathan Zaslow and Boog Shambi, George Sedano. I interned for Israel Gutierrez, who is my personal mentor at the Miami Herald. Yes.
Dude, I was pumped when you asked me to come on here. You know how proud I am of you being a fellow UCF Knight and the rise we've had in this business. And so genuinely excited, my friend, to talk some baseball with you.
Dude, I was pumped when you asked me to come on here. You know how proud I am of you being a fellow UCF Knight and the rise we've had in this business. And so genuinely excited, my friend, to talk some baseball with you.
There's a reason the Rays were 6-2 since Chandler made his debut, and it's because he is that type of a game changer for this entire team. He's changed the dynamic. Yes, this is a 500-ball club right now, but you look at what they're built on. Pitching and defense always leads the way, and they've got some young talent that's come up here and had to fill in between Chandler Simpson.
There's a reason the Rays were 6-2 since Chandler made his debut, and it's because he is that type of a game changer for this entire team. He's changed the dynamic. Yes, this is a 500-ball club right now, but you look at what they're built on. Pitching and defense always leads the way, and they've got some young talent that's come up here and had to fill in between Chandler Simpson.
Cameron Meisner has been one. Jake Mangum, who's on the injured list right now. You know, I think this team is capable of playing much better than 500 baseball. But yeah, you mentioned it. Chandler Simpson is as advertised. He gets on base. And by the way, he could beat out an infield single by dropping a bunt down. It's almost guaranteed he's going to end up at third in that scoring position.
Cameron Meisner has been one. Jake Mangum, who's on the injured list right now. You know, I think this team is capable of playing much better than 500 baseball. But yeah, you mentioned it. Chandler Simpson is as advertised. He gets on base. And by the way, he could beat out an infield single by dropping a bunt down. It's almost guaranteed he's going to end up at third in that scoring position.
It's pretty incredible to watch this dude go to work.
It's pretty incredible to watch this dude go to work.
I really want to talk positively here about a team that I don't think anybody expected at this point to be leading the American League Central and be one of the best teams in baseball. And that's the Detroit Tigers. My Tigers. This team has been able to stay dominant. Their pitching staff has led the way.
I really want to talk positively here about a team that I don't think anybody expected at this point to be leading the American League Central and be one of the best teams in baseball. And that's the Detroit Tigers. My Tigers. This team has been able to stay dominant. Their pitching staff has led the way.
They've got a lot of guys on the injured list, and yet they've had contributions up and down, not just in that lineup, but in that starting rotation. And so let's see how they do on the road, right? They're only five and seven away from home. So I think that's going to be a big test for them.
They've got a lot of guys on the injured list, and yet they've had contributions up and down, not just in that lineup, but in that starting rotation. And so let's see how they do on the road, right? They're only five and seven away from home. So I think that's going to be a big test for them.
But I am pleasantly surprised with what we've seen from the Detroit Tigers in what should stack up to be a pretty competitive American League Central.
But I am pleasantly surprised with what we've seen from the Detroit Tigers in what should stack up to be a pretty competitive American League Central.
They right now are on pace. If they maintain, if they keep this current 143 winning percentage, they will reach 20 wins. Mid-September. The Mets have 20 wins right now. And it doesn't get any easier for them. 45 of the remaining 134 games left this season are against teams that currently have losing records. That's 34% of their remaining schedule.
They right now are on pace. If they maintain, if they keep this current 143 winning percentage, they will reach 20 wins. Mid-September. The Mets have 20 wins right now. And it doesn't get any easier for them. 45 of the remaining 134 games left this season are against teams that currently have losing records. That's 34% of their remaining schedule.
So they're going to be playing some really high-quality baseball teams the rest of the way. Oh, my God.
So they're going to be playing some really high-quality baseball teams the rest of the way. Oh, my God.
Look, I think especially in high leverage roles like these relievers have, we relievers have been in situations there are guys that are going to struggle. When you look at the overall advanced metrics of some of these guys, especially Devin Williams, you look at his two big pitches, right? When you look at the four-seamer and the change-up. The four-seamer guys are batting 462 against this year.
Look, I think especially in high leverage roles like these relievers have, we relievers have been in situations there are guys that are going to struggle. When you look at the overall advanced metrics of some of these guys, especially Devin Williams, you look at his two big pitches, right? When you look at the four-seamer and the change-up. The four-seamer guys are batting 462 against this year.
That has been one of his best pitches strategically over his career. Same thing with the change-ups. You know, that has been has been a huge weapon for him and hitters are hitting 273 against it. So his two pitches right now are getting hit pretty hard. And when you look at Emmanuel Classe, I thought it was crazy.
That has been one of his best pitches strategically over his career. Same thing with the change-ups. You know, that has been has been a huge weapon for him and hitters are hitting 273 against it. So his two pitches right now are getting hit pretty hard. And when you look at Emmanuel Classe, I thought it was crazy.
He's given up almost twice as many earned runs so far this year than he did all of last year. So just kind of crazy to see, you know, what is going to happen from from that relief standpoint. But, you know, I venture to say, Jeremy, when we look back into the end of the season, these guys will have it figured out and they'll be back in their respective roles. Final question for you.
He's given up almost twice as many earned runs so far this year than he did all of last year. So just kind of crazy to see, you know, what is going to happen from from that relief standpoint. But, you know, I venture to say, Jeremy, when we look back into the end of the season, these guys will have it figured out and they'll be back in their respective roles. Final question for you.
Picking between the two, it's tough for me, but I'm going to go with a guy who I get a chance to see up close and personal many times, you know, being a sideline reporter for the Rays, and Aaron Judge, right? The numbers are mind-boggling stupid.
Picking between the two, it's tough for me, but I'm going to go with a guy who I get a chance to see up close and personal many times, you know, being a sideline reporter for the Rays, and Aaron Judge, right? The numbers are mind-boggling stupid.
To hit 405 at where he's at right now, to be the best hitter in the world, his strikeout rate, his chase rate, his two-strike batting average are all at career-best levels. He has neutralized what had been his biggest weakness, and that was strikes down and away in the zone. This year, On strikes down and away in the zone, he's hitting .381 as an average and his slugging is .524.
To hit 405 at where he's at right now, to be the best hitter in the world, his strikeout rate, his chase rate, his two-strike batting average are all at career-best levels. He has neutralized what had been his biggest weakness, and that was strikes down and away in the zone. This year, On strikes down and away in the zone, he's hitting .381 as an average and his slugging is .524.
He has neutralized what had been his biggest weakness, and he is turning that into a strength. If he can consistently do what he's doing now, he might go down as, if not the greatest hitter in all of baseball, top five for sure.
He has neutralized what had been his biggest weakness, and he is turning that into a strength. If he can consistently do what he's doing now, he might go down as, if not the greatest hitter in all of baseball, top five for sure.
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And then he said, he doesn't know what he's talking about. He's wrong.
And then he said, he doesn't know what he's talking about. He's wrong.
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He's like, I'm working on a big addition to the VIPs. This is an NFL caliber guy. And I'm like, and what is he doing? He's going to come on with us every week. I go, where? I don't know. Me and Thomas will figure it out.
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Defense wins championships, baby. That's show business.
Defense wins championships, baby. That's show business.
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Are you a freak?
Are you a freak?
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It's Christmas time, Dan.
It's Christmas time, Dan.
Exactly.
Exactly.
You just clearly don't know the song.
You just clearly don't know the song.
Play the beginning of that again without the vocal and tell me that doesn't sound like a Christmas song. No.
Play the beginning of that again without the vocal and tell me that doesn't sound like a Christmas song. No.
Should we film the music video or? Oh, Jesus.
Should we film the music video or? Oh, Jesus.
Or to praise me for anything.
Or to praise me for anything.
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time. Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. or bottle whatever your preference.
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time. Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. or bottle whatever your preference.
Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. Take a sip, look around, see your family, and know you immediately made the best decision possible. Because Miller Lite is brewed for taste.
Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. Take a sip, look around, see your family, and know you immediately made the best decision possible. Because Miller Lite is brewed for taste.
It hits different than other light beers. Simple ingredients like malted barley for rich, balanced toffee note flavors in the iconic golden color. The original light beer since 1975 and still the best one. Making memories at year-end gatherings? Tastes like Miller time! Go to MillerLight.com to find delivery options near you.
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Or you can pick up some Miller Light pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Fewer calories and carbs than premium regular beer.
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Better than the alternative. Yeah. That's what you say.
Better than the alternative. Yeah. That's what you say.
Stugatz is so right in that I'm more proud of Tua when he doesn't get in the way of someone returning a potential pick six than when he completes a 50-yard bomb to someone. It's such a better feeling to watch him not die on the field than to do something spectacular.
Stugatz is so right in that I'm more proud of Tua when he doesn't get in the way of someone returning a potential pick six than when he completes a 50-yard bomb to someone. It's such a better feeling to watch him not die on the field than to do something spectacular.
Thank you, thank you. All right, well, everybody starts with a introduction. So, Chris Bledsoe, you had a life-changing UFO experience in 2007 after the financial crisis that saved your life and cured you of your chronic illness. What was that chronic illness? Crohn's disease. Crohn's disease. Crohn's, yeah.
Thank you, thank you. All right, well, everybody starts with a introduction. So, Chris Bledsoe, you had a life-changing UFO experience in 2007 after the financial crisis that saved your life and cured you of your chronic illness. What was that chronic illness? Crohn's disease. Crohn's disease. Crohn's, yeah.
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Since then, you've dedicated your life to sharing your story and how it impacts your faith, which I can't wait to dive into that. You are the author of the New York Times bestseller, UFO of God, the extraordinary true story of Chris Bledsoe. And since then, your UFO experience, you've talked to CIA, NASA, the History Channel, they've all been studying you and your experience.
Since then, you've dedicated your life to sharing your story and how it impacts your faith, which I can't wait to dive into that. You are the author of the New York Times bestseller, UFO of God, the extraordinary true story of Chris Bledsoe. And since then, your UFO experience, you've talked to CIA, NASA, the History Channel, they've all been studying you and your experience.
And from what I understand, trying to figure out what's going on with your consciousness. Yeah. So I have a lot of questions, but and then We have a Patreon account. They've been with us since the very beginning. They're our top supporters. And without them, I wouldn't be sitting here and neither would you.
And from what I understand, trying to figure out what's going on with your consciousness. Yeah. So I have a lot of questions, but and then We have a Patreon account. They've been with us since the very beginning. They're our top supporters. And without them, I wouldn't be sitting here and neither would you.
And so one of the things that I do is I offer them an opportunity to ask each guest a question. And so there's some really good ones on here. This one is from Kathy. How do you view death now since your experience? Is it a soul departure or a rebirth or a finality as your true being dies?
And so one of the things that I do is I offer them an opportunity to ask each guest a question. And so there's some really good ones on here. This one is from Kathy. How do you view death now since your experience? Is it a soul departure or a rebirth or a finality as your true being dies?
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cheering for us to get through to the other side um stronger in my faith than i ever have been but here's a question that just came to mind on the subject talking about where we go after we die and what you think happens after we die where do you think we are before we're born
cheering for us to get through to the other side um stronger in my faith than i ever have been but here's a question that just came to mind on the subject talking about where we go after we die and what you think happens after we die where do you think we are before we're born
Was it passing through things or was it moving around things?
Was it passing through things or was it moving around things?
It wasn't like it was passing through trees or trucks or any... So it was doing both?
It wasn't like it was passing through trees or trucks or any... So it was doing both?
What do you mean you found her?
What do you mean you found her?
You found her that night?
You found her that night?
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What was your wife's name?
What was your wife's name?
So when you say consciousness is God, what exactly does that mean? Because all of our consciousness is different. We don't see eye to eye on things. We have different perceptions. We view the world through different lenses. And so is this a, do you think consciousness is one big collective?
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What was your first conversation with your son afterwards?
What was your first conversation with your son afterwards?
Who was the first person you told?
Who was the first person you told?
You had mentioned that the third object that appeared seemed to know your thoughts. It does. Now, what exactly does that mean?
You had mentioned that the third object that appeared seemed to know your thoughts. It does. Now, what exactly does that mean?
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You had mentioned, I believe you had two near-death experiences before this incident. What, at age 10? Ten. I was shot point blank with a shotgun. What was that near-death experience?
You had mentioned, I believe you had two near-death experiences before this incident. What, at age 10? Ten. I was shot point blank with a shotgun. What was that near-death experience?
What about the, what was the other one? You had too much medication for the Crohn's disease?
What about the, what was the other one? You had too much medication for the Crohn's disease?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Were you – it's a personal question, but it sounds like the experience that you had in 2007, which we'll dive into here in just a couple minutes, it sounds like that really – I don't know if it made your faith stronger or just brought you to faith in general, but— Stronger. So you were always a Christian?
Were you – it's a personal question, but it sounds like the experience that you had in 2007, which we'll dive into here in just a couple minutes, it sounds like that really – I don't know if it made your faith stronger or just brought you to faith in general, but— Stronger. So you were always a Christian?
So the near-death experience was you witnessing the conversation between the doctor and your wife. Yes. Anything else?
So the near-death experience was you witnessing the conversation between the doctor and your wife. Yes. Anything else?
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I was hoping, well, I guess I shouldn't say I was hoping, I was wondering if anything had happened in those near-death experiences that might relate to this, but it doesn't sound like there was really anything that related to this.
I was hoping, well, I guess I shouldn't say I was hoping, I was wondering if anything had happened in those near-death experiences that might relate to this, but it doesn't sound like there was really anything that related to this.
It does.
It does.
Who was filming?
Who was filming?
Did it look human?
Did it look human?
Did you interact with it?
Did you interact with it?
What would you talk about? It even had a name for it.
What would you talk about? It even had a name for it.
What would you... interact with the being about?
What would you... interact with the being about?
Do you remember any of the conversations specifically? Are there any conversations that stick out?
Do you remember any of the conversations specifically? Are there any conversations that stick out?
What would the conversations be about?
What would the conversations be about?
Interesting, interesting. So did you come to faith because of your wife? You had to make a deal?
Interesting, interesting. So did you come to faith because of your wife? You had to make a deal?
So with the being, how would it converse back with you?
So with the being, how would it converse back with you?
Could you be a little more descriptive of what the being looked like?
Could you be a little more descriptive of what the being looked like?
Or was it always?
Or was it always?
Interesting.
Interesting.
Did it wear clothing?
Did it wear clothing?
Interesting.
Interesting.
Interesting. How many times, I mean, and I've got a lot of questions, how many interactions a day would you have with this, with Johnny?
Interesting. How many times, I mean, and I've got a lot of questions, how many interactions a day would you have with this, with Johnny?
Let's try to just, let's just keep it before the event for right now. Okay. And so, did it have hair?
Let's try to just, let's just keep it before the event for right now. Okay. And so, did it have hair?
And these are the same type of eyes that you saw at the river?
And these are the same type of eyes that you saw at the river?
Okay, that's what I was referencing. Right. So the... So Johnny.
Okay, that's what I was referencing. Right. So the... So Johnny.
And he had a triangle.
And he had a triangle.
So I'm talking about Johnny. Right. So Johnny was not glowing? Nope. It looked like a little, let's say a small person, but it didn't look... Could you differentiate between a regular three-year-old, four-year-old child and this?
So I'm talking about Johnny. Right. So Johnny was not glowing? Nope. It looked like a little, let's say a small person, but it didn't look... Could you differentiate between a regular three-year-old, four-year-old child and this?
So what did you think that was?
So what did you think that was?
Right away, you thought it was a guardian angel? Yeah. And the entire family said that it was demonic?
Right away, you thought it was a guardian angel? Yeah. And the entire family said that it was demonic?
Interacting with?
Interacting with?
So in the... Can I have access to any of that film?
So in the... Can I have access to any of that film?
So what do those films look like? Does that look like you interacting with thin air?
So what do those films look like? Does that look like you interacting with thin air?
I would love to get some of that footage, if possible, and insert it. I will see if she can do that. How many Ryan, sorry, you're now on the Sean Ryan show. Have you seen these films? I was there. I mean, what did it look like? What does it look like to see your dad interacting with thin air?
I would love to get some of that footage, if possible, and insert it. I will see if she can do that. How many Ryan, sorry, you're now on the Sean Ryan show. Have you seen these films? I was there. I mean, what did it look like? What does it look like to see your dad interacting with thin air?
We'll get there. Yeah. What about this being...
We'll get there. Yeah. What about this being...
When did it disappear for good before the incident?
When did it disappear for good before the incident?
Did you respond to that?
Did you respond to that?
What did you say?
What did you say?
So after the incident, when you described this to your family, did they put two and two together, that this has happened, not this exact thing, but that you had been in contact with some type of being before?
So after the incident, when you described this to your family, did they put two and two together, that this has happened, not this exact thing, but that you had been in contact with some type of being before?
And now you have another family member, your son, who also experienced it.
And now you have another family member, your son, who also experienced it.
Who did you contact about this incident with afterwards?
Who did you contact about this incident with afterwards?
Who did you call?
Who did you call?
What does MUFON stand for?
What does MUFON stand for?
So at this point, the entire family is witnessing this? My whole family.
So at this point, the entire family is witnessing this? My whole family.
A friend?
A friend?
What was the initial guy's name?
What was the initial guy's name?
What were they studying?
What were they studying?
He gave me a private tour of Skimwalker Ranch, and I told him that me and you were potentially doing an interview, and he got really excited about that and told me a little bit about what you guys were doing out there, so I'd love to touch on that. But all in all, Chris, I'm just ecstatic that you made the trip and was able to meet your son, Ryan, and been really excited to do this.
He gave me a private tour of Skimwalker Ranch, and I told him that me and you were potentially doing an interview, and he got really excited about that and told me a little bit about what you guys were doing out there, so I'd love to touch on that. But all in all, Chris, I'm just ecstatic that you made the trip and was able to meet your son, Ryan, and been really excited to do this.
Let's pause right there. I have questions. Okay. So the initial, what was... What was it that you were handed?
Let's pause right there. I have questions. Okay. So the initial, what was... What was it that you were handed?
Right on the money with that.
Right on the money with that.
What did the figure look like that handed you the object?
What did the figure look like that handed you the object?
Can I see that video?
Can I see that video?
You worked with Robert Grant?
You worked with Robert Grant?
And so how did the government get involved? And what is it, let me rephrase that. What is it that caught the government's attention?
And so how did the government get involved? And what is it, let me rephrase that. What is it that caught the government's attention?
And what is that?
And what is that?
The resurrection.
The resurrection.
Every year since 2012?
Every year since 2012?
Now, what is it that caught the government's attention?
Now, what is it that caught the government's attention?
Are you still in touch with him?
Are you still in touch with him?
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Interesting. Yeah. Well, before we get into the incident, everybody on the show gets a gift.
Who was that man?
Who was that man?
Yeah, you're welcome. Any guesses?
Yeah, you're welcome. Any guesses?
Could you introduce me to one that would be willing to be on the show?
Could you introduce me to one that would be willing to be on the show?
How many people have you saved?
How many people have you saved?
How many people have you been a part of this?
How many people have you been a part of this?
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Are there people out there talking about this? Yeah.
Are there people out there talking about this? Yeah.
So, but, well, Chris, let's dive in to the incident. Let's dive in to what happened on the Cape Fear River.
So, but, well, Chris, let's dive in to the incident. Let's dive in to what happened on the Cape Fear River.
How did the government get more involved?
How did the government get more involved?
And you allow them to do that.
And you allow them to do that.
Can you name any of these people by name?
Can you name any of these people by name?
What were you doing that day?
What were you doing that day?
350.
350.
You've been investigated by the Vatican? Yeah. How did that go?
You've been investigated by the Vatican? Yeah. How did that go?
Man, this is fascinating stuff.
Man, this is fascinating stuff.
Why do you think... You are the one.
Why do you think... You are the one.
With all the government contact and studying and the Vatican, had anybody ever given you insight as to whether or not there are more human beings that have had similar experiences to you?
With all the government contact and studying and the Vatican, had anybody ever given you insight as to whether or not there are more human beings that have had similar experiences to you?
Yeah, I personally believe that we are the ones that put the limitations on ourselves. Exactly. Everything may be possible.
Yeah, I personally believe that we are the ones that put the limitations on ourselves. Exactly. Everything may be possible.
Where do you think you were for the hours that you disappeared during the incident in 2007?
Where do you think you were for the hours that you disappeared during the incident in 2007?
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Why do they want it to happen?
Why do they want it to happen?
You know what I find interesting is from the very beginning, when you saw the being... that your family and initially you, if I remember correctly, thought was just a medication. Right. You had some type of an intuition from the very get-go that this was a guardian angel of some type. Yeah. And it has progressed.
You know what I find interesting is from the very beginning, when you saw the being... that your family and initially you, if I remember correctly, thought was just a medication. Right. You had some type of an intuition from the very get-go that this was a guardian angel of some type. Yeah. And it has progressed.
You know what else I find interesting? You are the only one, to my knowledge, that I've spoken to on this subject, on the UFO subject, that believes in Jesus Christ.
You know what else I find interesting? You are the only one, to my knowledge, that I've spoken to on this subject, on the UFO subject, that believes in Jesus Christ.
That openly talks about it.
That openly talks about it.
I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised.
I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised.
What do you think that day is going to look like?
What do you think that day is going to look like?
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Thank you for sharing that.
Thank you for sharing that.
How does it feel to get it out? Right.
How does it feel to get it out? Right.
Would you be willing to come back on this show?
Would you be willing to come back on this show?
I could go deeper, but... I think this is a good part to end this interview. But with that being said, I would love to get you back because I have a lot more questions. But I know it's been a rough day.
I could go deeper, but... I think this is a good part to end this interview. But with that being said, I would love to get you back because I have a lot more questions. But I know it's been a rough day.
Thank you, Chris.
Thank you, Chris.
You know, there's been a lot of speculation on... if UFOs are strictly some type of spiritual entity, or if they are nuts and bolts, or if it's both?
You know, there's been a lot of speculation on... if UFOs are strictly some type of spiritual entity, or if they are nuts and bolts, or if it's both?
because they have compassion for us and um and love i know i already asked this but i do want to ask it again and i just want to hear what you personally think i mean of 2007 to 24 we're talking almost almost what what's 17 years now yeah Why you? What is it that you believe that God saw in you in that moment of time? Lots of people look up.
because they have compassion for us and um and love i know i already asked this but i do want to ask it again and i just want to hear what you personally think i mean of 2007 to 24 we're talking almost almost what what's 17 years now yeah Why you? What is it that you believe that God saw in you in that moment of time? Lots of people look up.
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How do you pray?
How do you pray?
How? Do you ask? Do you just talk to it? Is it ceremonial?
How? Do you ask? Do you just talk to it? Is it ceremonial?
I know I have them. You do. I've talked about it several times on this show and given very, very detailed examples. And... Next time, I'll share those with you.
I know I have them. You do. I've talked about it several times on this show and given very, very detailed examples. And... Next time, I'll share those with you.
Well, Chris, what a man. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for what you've done, and thank you for being here, and God bless you, brother. I appreciate you, Sean, so much. Appreciate you, too. We'll see you soon. God bless. Thank you, brother.
Well, Chris, what a man. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for what you've done, and thank you for being here, and God bless you, brother. I appreciate you, Sean, so much. Appreciate you, too. We'll see you soon. God bless. Thank you, brother.
Oh my goodness.
Oh my goodness.
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So, yeah, I thought the sound that you guys had was the sound that really went viral. You didn't. You had a different sound, which was good and informative. Yeah, great, but not what we talked about.
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That was a great video. It was a great video. It was informative. It wasn't the point I was trying to make, because the one I was trying to make when he said, LeBron came here, and I said, but it's not LeBron's way, it's Pat Riley's way. It's not Dwayne Wade's way, it's Pat Riley's way. It's their organization. You're just going to have to accept that at some point.
That was a great video. It was a great video. It was informative. It wasn't the point I was trying to make, because the one I was trying to make when he said, LeBron came here, and I said, but it's not LeBron's way, it's Pat Riley's way. It's not Dwayne Wade's way, it's Pat Riley's way. It's their organization. You're just going to have to accept that at some point.
They're going to do it how they want to do it. And so for Jimmy Butler... Who I see a lot of people. I do have a question. I see everyone has been repeating this. They let Jimmy Butler do way more than they let LeBron and Wade and Zoe and Shaq do. I've heard that repeat that exact same way, same phrasing, multiple places, multiple people. But everyone dances around it.
They're going to do it how they want to do it. And so for Jimmy Butler... Who I see a lot of people. I do have a question. I see everyone has been repeating this. They let Jimmy Butler do way more than they let LeBron and Wade and Zoe and Shaq do. I've heard that repeat that exact same way, same phrasing, multiple places, multiple people. But everyone dances around it.
What exactly did they let him do that they didn't let the other guys?
What exactly did they let him do that they didn't let the other guys?
But Dan, there's a couple of things, right? Number one. By the way, Udonis was two years ago. That wasn't last year. But number one is the part about this. Chris Haynes talked to you guys the other day, and I was shocked that not only no one on this show, but nobody outside of this show reacted to this thing.
But Dan, there's a couple of things, right? Number one. By the way, Udonis was two years ago. That wasn't last year. But number one is the part about this. Chris Haynes talked to you guys the other day, and I was shocked that not only no one on this show, but nobody outside of this show reacted to this thing.
The part where they said Jimmy Butler and Pat Riley have not spoken, have not texted, have not met face-to-face, had not, excuse me, from at least the end of the season, which was in April, to the January 2nd meeting where they were like, you're not giving us enough. That is staggering. I remember speaking to Ramona Shelburne. Years ago, I was on the jump.
The part where they said Jimmy Butler and Pat Riley have not spoken, have not texted, have not met face-to-face, had not, excuse me, from at least the end of the season, which was in April, to the January 2nd meeting where they were like, you're not giving us enough. That is staggering. I remember speaking to Ramona Shelburne. Years ago, I was on the jump.
Ramona Shelburne broke a story at the top of the show that Magic Johnson, president of the Lakers, had not spoken to Luke Walton, head coach of the Lakers, for two weeks. And I was like, what? How is that possible? And I said, man, Luke, better get your resume ready. When that happens, this is a massive fracture. That was two weeks.
Ramona Shelburne broke a story at the top of the show that Magic Johnson, president of the Lakers, had not spoken to Luke Walton, head coach of the Lakers, for two weeks. And I was like, what? How is that possible? And I said, man, Luke, better get your resume ready. When that happens, this is a massive fracture. That was two weeks.
Now Chris Haynes is telling me six months these guys haven't communicated?
Now Chris Haynes is telling me six months these guys haven't communicated?
That's not what happened. What happened is you guys thought, or the organization thought, yeah, the reason he broke up with all those other people is the stuff that we love. Right? We love that he's demanding. We love that he goes out there and gives it his all. We love those things about him.
That's not what happened. What happened is you guys thought, or the organization thought, yeah, the reason he broke up with all those other people is the stuff that we love. Right? We love that he's demanding. We love that he goes out there and gives it his all. We love those things about him.
It must not have been a challenge. That he's not afraid of confrontation, which, Dan, in today's league, more than ever, having people who are not confrontation-averse is such a game-changer. Because everyone's passive-aggressive and in their feelings. I love that.
It must not have been a challenge. That he's not afraid of confrontation, which, Dan, in today's league, more than ever, having people who are not confrontation-averse is such a game-changer. Because everyone's passive-aggressive and in their feelings. I love that.
It is. I mean, it's like I've had players tell me, I mean, you couldn't work in the league anymore. I said, why not? It's like, because you can't talk to the kids the way you used to talk to people. What do you mean?
It is. I mean, it's like I've had players tell me, I mean, you couldn't work in the league anymore. I said, why not? It's like, because you can't talk to the kids the way you used to talk to people. What do you mean?
It's like, no, if you say something, the kid will go sulk for two weeks and be in his feelings about it rather than, like, take the challenge or even just tell you to go after yourself or whatever, right? And so Jimmy Butler is a throwback in that way. He is a throwback to a time when guys just – like we're just assholes to each other and everyone just dealt with it.
It's like, no, if you say something, the kid will go sulk for two weeks and be in his feelings about it rather than, like, take the challenge or even just tell you to go after yourself or whatever, right? And so Jimmy Butler is a throwback in that way. He is a throwback to a time when guys just – like we're just assholes to each other and everyone just dealt with it.
When I hear the Ramona Shelburne story about people like, oh no, he's coming back. It's like, that's what I'm talking about. Because... In another era, those guys would have picked up the phone and told him, yo, go after yourself. You're not in this locker room anymore.
When I hear the Ramona Shelburne story about people like, oh no, he's coming back. It's like, that's what I'm talking about. Because... In another era, those guys would have picked up the phone and told him, yo, go after yourself. You're not in this locker room anymore.
If you felt like that for real, like, hey, you turned your back on us and we're going to move on without you, the players would speak in that way.
If you felt like that for real, like, hey, you turned your back on us and we're going to move on without you, the players would speak in that way.
We're not having the fun conversation. The fun conversation here is who's the person who said we don't want him back? I have a theory.
We're not having the fun conversation. The fun conversation here is who's the person who said we don't want him back? I have a theory.
He benefits the most.
He benefits the most.
Oh, so he makes it a mess. And then when Jimmy walks in, he's like, guys, guys, I'm Kevin Love. I know how to, I heard it. I'm going to bring everybody together. I'm going to inform. And then we're looking boom, boom down. And everyone's like, oh yeah, yeah, we should look boom, boom down. Hey, yo, that's crazy, fam.
Oh, so he makes it a mess. And then when Jimmy walks in, he's like, guys, guys, I'm Kevin Love. I know how to, I heard it. I'm going to bring everybody together. I'm going to inform. And then we're looking boom, boom down. And everyone's like, oh yeah, yeah, we should look boom, boom down. Hey, yo, that's crazy, fam.
But that's Jimmy, right? That's also Jimmy. Like, oh, you think this is going to hurt me? Nope, I'm going to serve coffee and have fun. But what was in the video?
But that's Jimmy, right? That's also Jimmy. Like, oh, you think this is going to hurt me? Nope, I'm going to serve coffee and have fun. But what was in the video?
He's not the dude yet. There's a step between a guy and the guy.
He's not the dude yet. There's a step between a guy and the guy.
You need something. Okay, I got it.
You need something. Okay, I got it.
What about Tua?
What about Tua?
Where's Tua? It's a guy, the guy, or a dude? I think he's a dude.
Where's Tua? It's a guy, the guy, or a dude? I think he's a dude.
Tua's in the dude category.
Tua's in the dude category.
Brock Purdy's a dude.
Brock Purdy's a dude.
No, man. Andrew Streeter. Look at me. It's all good. Look at me, Andrew. You get the Louis Pinnock Award. That's a synophobe thing. You get the Louis Pinnock Award. A plus, 100%. Don't let them tell you otherwise, man.
No, man. Andrew Streeter. Look at me. It's all good. Look at me, Andrew. You get the Louis Pinnock Award. That's a synophobe thing. You get the Louis Pinnock Award. A plus, 100%. Don't let them tell you otherwise, man.
Upper end of the dude.
Upper end of the dude.
So I guess I'm not getting my 15 seconds on Jimmy Butler.
So I guess I'm not getting my 15 seconds on Jimmy Butler.
Snow.
Snow.
We're not going to just steamroll past this.
We're not going to just steamroll past this.
Listening on the radio as an 11-year-old? Snow, that's why they called him Snow. Look, marketing in the 90s was incredibly direct. They weren't trying to be subtle or anything. He's from Canada, he's white.
Listening on the radio as an 11-year-old? Snow, that's why they called him Snow. Look, marketing in the 90s was incredibly direct. They weren't trying to be subtle or anything. He's from Canada, he's white.
I just want to be clear to both of you, right? Hawk, you're here age-wise. Dan, you're here. I'm sort of in the middle, bridging the two generations together. Hawk, you grew up in Pennsylvania? Yeah, Pennsylvania. You, right here in South Florida. I was in Sudan, and I knew snow was white. I was in a country where power being on for consecutive days for 24 hours was like, oh my God, what happened?
I just want to be clear to both of you, right? Hawk, you're here age-wise. Dan, you're here. I'm sort of in the middle, bridging the two generations together. Hawk, you grew up in Pennsylvania? Yeah, Pennsylvania. You, right here in South Florida. I was in Sudan, and I knew snow was white. I was in a country where power being on for consecutive days for 24 hours was like, oh my God, what happened?
Who messed up? How did you know he was white?
Who messed up? How did you know he was white?
It'd be fun, except for the fact we didn't get music videos.
It'd be fun, except for the fact we didn't get music videos.
But if you look at him, he looks like a Darren Kenneth O'Brien.
But if you look at him, he looks like a Darren Kenneth O'Brien.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
Look at him. First of all, look at him. It's not like a regular white guy in rap where you see him. No, it is infuriating cultural appropriation. No, it's not. Informer. That's not a good. He wasn't. No. Informer. No, we can't play it.
Look at him. First of all, look at him. It's not like a regular white guy in rap where you see him. No, it is infuriating cultural appropriation. No, it's not. Informer. That's not a good. He wasn't. No. Informer. No, we can't play it.
So the irony of all that is way back when, when the Cavs added Richard Jefferson via trade and I think Channing Frye, those guys arrived to a Cavs team that they felt was fractured, cliquish, all too serious. And the first thing those two guys did was they said, everybody's getting on this text, this group text. And they would just send memes and they lighten the mood.
So the irony of all that is way back when, when the Cavs added Richard Jefferson via trade and I think Channing Frye, those guys arrived to a Cavs team that they felt was fractured, cliquish, all too serious. And the first thing those two guys did was they said, everybody's getting on this text, this group text. And they would just send memes and they lighten the mood.
And that's how that team got close. And so to see Kevin Love take that lesson from earlier, this is why you have vets, because they go through things earlier and then they know how to play it forward in the future.
And that's how that team got close. And so to see Kevin Love take that lesson from earlier, this is why you have vets, because they go through things earlier and then they know how to play it forward in the future.
I like it. You're in 2003. He's in 2003.
I like it. You're in 2003. He's in 2003.
I'm sorry, let me ask this question. I know you guys don't like that when I do that, but do we have the sound of Dwyane Wade on his podcast talking about it? If we can cue that up, because it's a real interesting window into exactly what you're talking about, Dan. The thing that is interesting to me is everyone, like Mike said, palpable dread, right?
I'm sorry, let me ask this question. I know you guys don't like that when I do that, but do we have the sound of Dwyane Wade on his podcast talking about it? If we can cue that up, because it's a real interesting window into exactly what you're talking about, Dan. The thing that is interesting to me is everyone, like Mike said, palpable dread, right?
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Watch where we finish this year. Watch where we finish this year. This guy is special. He's special. He knows how to get it done. He's a great communicator, great teacher. He's fun to be around. He makes everybody better, including the coaches. And, you know, we'll see. You know, I'm looking forward for the, what do you call it, spring ball or whatever. I can't wait.
Watch where we finish this year. Watch where we finish this year. This guy is special. He's special. He knows how to get it done. He's a great communicator, great teacher. He's fun to be around. He makes everybody better, including the coaches. And, you know, we'll see. You know, I'm looking forward for the, what do you call it, spring ball or whatever. I can't wait.
And we're going to go against the best? Oh, good. Bring it on. Let's see. I can't wait to see that little Juco kid from Hutch. Bam! We're going to get after his little butt. But anyway, it'll be great. We're excited. And I saw the Maiava guy. I coached his uncle. I hated that kid when I first sat him. A USC kid, a little captain. Remember, he could walk under this table right here. Little guy.
And we're going to go against the best? Oh, good. Bring it on. Let's see. I can't wait to see that little Juco kid from Hutch. Bam! We're going to get after his little butt. But anyway, it'll be great. We're excited. And I saw the Maiava guy. I coached his uncle. I hated that kid when I first sat him. A USC kid, a little captain. Remember, he could walk under this table right here. Little guy.
And we draft this little runt. I'm like, oh, man, this guy, I was all over this kid during the OTAs. I'm like, man, this guy, man, you got to run to cover a guy. Anyway, so then I'm like, hey, guys, Sweet Life has us going on vacation with the family going out to Hawaii, going to Maui. I've never been to Maui. I run things in Oahu, but I'm like, I'm going to go to Maui. He's like...
And we draft this little runt. I'm like, oh, man, this guy, I was all over this kid during the OTAs. I'm like, man, this guy, man, you got to run to cover a guy. Anyway, so then I'm like, hey, guys, Sweet Life has us going on vacation with the family going out to Hawaii, going to Maui. I've never been to Maui. I run things in Oahu, but I'm like, I'm going to go to Maui. He's like...
Hey, Rob, you get in any kind of trouble now, you just tell them you know Kaluks. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to tell them I know Kaluks. Get the hell out of here. Walk out there to the usual. Got me and the wife there. Oh, we're going to have a romantic evening. Go out there, no rent-a-car. What do you mean? You never called for the rent-a-car? I told you she's Greek.
Hey, Rob, you get in any kind of trouble now, you just tell them you know Kaluks. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to tell them I know Kaluks. Get the hell out of here. Walk out there to the usual. Got me and the wife there. Oh, we're going to have a romantic evening. Go out there, no rent-a-car. What do you mean? You never called for the rent-a-car? I told you she's Greek.
I'm like, yeah, they must have lost it. So, of course, I forgot to call. Now they're out of cars. I'm in Maui. I got no car. So what do I do? I know Kaluks. I got a car. Oh, you know Kaluks? Swear to God, hand to God, true story. I got a van. I'm like, yeah, Kaluks, my man. Anyway, I ended up loving the kid. He was, oh man, is he mean as a rattlesnake.
I'm like, yeah, they must have lost it. So, of course, I forgot to call. Now they're out of cars. I'm in Maui. I got no car. So what do I do? I know Kaluks. I got a car. Oh, you know Kaluks? Swear to God, hand to God, true story. I got a van. I'm like, yeah, Kaluks, my man. Anyway, I ended up loving the kid. He was, oh man, is he mean as a rattlesnake.
And there was a reason why that kid was captain with all those first round draft choices. I love that guy. Ended up, looks can be deceiving.
And there was a reason why that kid was captain with all those first round draft choices. I love that guy. Ended up, looks can be deceiving.
So we start flying up to Bristol having conversations with these people, and you were right to highlight that they actually had radio bona fides. Amanda Gifford came up through Colin Coward's show. Liam was the executive producer of Mike and Mike for a long time. John Keller was a radio lifer. So inside of the ESPN audio division, we were starting to see people that we could F with.
So we start flying up to Bristol having conversations with these people, and you were right to highlight that they actually had radio bona fides. Amanda Gifford came up through Colin Coward's show. Liam was the executive producer of Mike and Mike for a long time. John Keller was a radio lifer. So inside of the ESPN audio division, we were starting to see people that we could F with.
really like they got us they got what we did and it was a little bit different than maybe some previous managers that we had had when we weren't a part of an actual part of clearance over there it becomes clear that colin's leaving i was actually in bristol the day that it was reported colin was leaving to fox i was sitting in colin's studio and i got to see his entire process at the time we just gripped it and ripped it dan got in in front of that microphone
really like they got us they got what we did and it was a little bit different than maybe some previous managers that we had had when we weren't a part of an actual part of clearance over there it becomes clear that colin's leaving i was actually in bristol the day that it was reported colin was leaving to fox i was sitting in colin's studio and i got to see his entire process at the time we just gripped it and ripped it dan got in in front of that microphone
Why'd you wait so long?
Why'd you wait so long?
I was in his studio because I was working.
I was in his studio because I was working.
Well, there was a couple of interesting things that happened on that day because I believe Colin got into a controversy about Dominican baseball players that day. I believe Jen Latta was supposed to be a part of Colin's show, who is now with College Game Day, and she was just kind of sitting in an office as all this stuff was breaking.
Well, there was a couple of interesting things that happened on that day because I believe Colin got into a controversy about Dominican baseball players that day. I believe Jen Latta was supposed to be a part of Colin's show, who is now with College Game Day, and she was just kind of sitting in an office as all this stuff was breaking.
And it looked like Jen, who Colin specifically asked for, was now not going to be a part of Colin's show. So it was an interesting time to be there.
And it looked like Jen, who Colin specifically asked for, was now not going to be a part of Colin's show. So it was an interesting time to be there.
But also what I realized is they're used to a totally different workflow from the host that is hosting this time slot. Colin, when I sat in with him, Colin would run through his entire show twice before it actually started. What? And he would just bounce stuff off of guys, whereas we would just turn on microphones and go.
But also what I realized is they're used to a totally different workflow from the host that is hosting this time slot. Colin, when I sat in with him, Colin would run through his entire show twice before it actually started. What? And he would just bounce stuff off of guys, whereas we would just turn on microphones and go.
And it was a little bit different because by then the zig had been established so we know how to zag. And that's another part of this challenge that we got. But the talks to get to midday were... We were pushing you pretty hard. We wanted this. What ultimately made you align with us and say, all right, let's go for it.
And it was a little bit different because by then the zig had been established so we know how to zag. And that's another part of this challenge that we got. But the talks to get to midday were... We were pushing you pretty hard. We wanted this. What ultimately made you align with us and say, all right, let's go for it.
A lot of things professionally are happening at this same time. We're not thrilled with how Fusion's going. In the last episode, we got into how that disrupted our workflow. We're still out on that set when this decision gets made. Lincoln Financial, who I'm an employee of at this time, is about to sell to Intercom.
A lot of things professionally are happening at this same time. We're not thrilled with how Fusion's going. In the last episode, we got into how that disrupted our workflow. We're still out on that set when this decision gets made. Lincoln Financial, who I'm an employee of at this time, is about to sell to Intercom.
I see this Disney thing happen because it's part of us who may be moving to middays. All my boys get to be full time. Our team gets to be paid by Disney. And man... Locally, especially, the radio market is a changing and we wanted that long-term stability. What ends up happening is we become Entercom employees because that's a company that Lincoln Financial sells to. Which is now Odyssey.
I see this Disney thing happen because it's part of us who may be moving to middays. All my boys get to be full time. Our team gets to be paid by Disney. And man... Locally, especially, the radio market is a changing and we wanted that long-term stability. What ends up happening is we become Entercom employees because that's a company that Lincoln Financial sells to. Which is now Odyssey.
We become Entercom employees for five business days before we become... And we can't have a lapse in our coverage. So we had to go through the entire onboarding process. There was no way. I'm like, this is so annoying. We had to do all the HR training, all of that. And then five days later, we become Disney employees. So we're about to change from...
We become Entercom employees for five business days before we become... And we can't have a lapse in our coverage. So we had to go through the entire onboarding process. There was no way. I'm like, this is so annoying. We had to do all the HR training, all of that. And then five days later, we become Disney employees. So we're about to change from...
the fusion thing's not working out those guys tried hard and i think we established in the last episode it wasn't so much them as it was us we had a different vision for that stuff you start talking to eric ride home to take over the production of the simulcast begging him really begging him give me something i will give you no responsibilities you don't have to do anything just give me something put it on television in some way and so he got us a single employee lorenzo well charlie is still with
the fusion thing's not working out those guys tried hard and i think we established in the last episode it wasn't so much them as it was us we had a different vision for that stuff you start talking to eric ride home to take over the production of the simulcast begging him really begging him give me something i will give you no responsibilities you don't have to do anything just give me something put it on television in some way and so he got us a single employee lorenzo well charlie is still with
at this time initially.
at this time initially.
Charlie wasn't around with us for very long because with that move to Ride Home and ESPNU, Charlie, ever the climber, took this opportunity to move to the studio that the show was getting produced out of, which was Washington, D.C. And once you get Charlie around those executives in D.C. around Ride Home, you know that his career is going to go a certain way.
Charlie wasn't around with us for very long because with that move to Ride Home and ESPNU, Charlie, ever the climber, took this opportunity to move to the studio that the show was getting produced out of, which was Washington, D.C. And once you get Charlie around those executives in D.C. around Ride Home, you know that his career is going to go a certain way.
So Lorenzo comes aboard and even though the support system that we had was way slimmer when we moved to ESPNU and we went under Ride Home's umbrella your comfort level really increased because you knew that he was at least across it and could give recommendations and it gave you a peace of mind that you just simply didn't have with the Fusion TV.
So Lorenzo comes aboard and even though the support system that we had was way slimmer when we moved to ESPNU and we went under Ride Home's umbrella your comfort level really increased because you knew that he was at least across it and could give recommendations and it gave you a peace of mind that you just simply didn't have with the Fusion TV.
If I may, let's put pause on that because we didn't just go straight to mid days. We had one bit of training with a prize piece of radio real estate that gave us all the kind of data that would put a little suspicion into us because Mike and Mike go on vacation. They ask us to replace Mike and Mike and we're working with a totally different team. This is a production that is based out of Bristol.
If I may, let's put pause on that because we didn't just go straight to mid days. We had one bit of training with a prize piece of radio real estate that gave us all the kind of data that would put a little suspicion into us because Mike and Mike go on vacation. They ask us to replace Mike and Mike and we're working with a totally different team. This is a production that is based out of Bristol.
We're in our fusion studios. And for me, it was a nightmare. filling in for Mike and Mike. And there was one big technical mishap that happened on this show. We, at this time, were so reliant on off-mic communication. I would constantly be in Dan's headphones because of the physical disconnect to the main production studio that was in another room. So we were... heavy in each other's headphones.
We're in our fusion studios. And for me, it was a nightmare. filling in for Mike and Mike. And there was one big technical mishap that happened on this show. We, at this time, were so reliant on off-mic communication. I would constantly be in Dan's headphones because of the physical disconnect to the main production studio that was in another room. So we were... heavy in each other's headphones.
They set the mics because it made it easier to produce for them in Bristol to on all the time. So I was catching word from our diehard audience on social media, hey, we can hear what you're saying. And that was never communicated to me.
They set the mics because it made it easier to produce for them in Bristol to on all the time. So I was catching word from our diehard audience on social media, hey, we can hear what you're saying. And that was never communicated to me.
We'll get into all those particulars in this episode that'll cover probably the second most important decision because the decision to leave ESPN when that time came was probably the biggest for our lives. But professionally, second biggest decision the show ever made. And it wasn't going to ESPN in the first place because we had carved out a nice little lane there in afternoons.
We'll get into all those particulars in this episode that'll cover probably the second most important decision because the decision to leave ESPN when that time came was probably the biggest for our lives. But professionally, second biggest decision the show ever made. And it wasn't going to ESPN in the first place because we had carved out a nice little lane there in afternoons.
And while we didn't say anything that got us in trouble, I wanted people to be alert over at ESPN that, hey, you're messing with our livelihoods here when you can't communicate with that. And at the time, I'm an intercom employee. I'm about to be an ESPN employee. This is my one last opportunity to say something and not really have repercussions to me professionally.
And while we didn't say anything that got us in trouble, I wanted people to be alert over at ESPN that, hey, you're messing with our livelihoods here when you can't communicate with that. And at the time, I'm an intercom employee. I'm about to be an ESPN employee. This is my one last opportunity to say something and not really have repercussions to me professionally.
Probably took it too far, but this was the biggest argument that I had with Amanda Gifford over at ESPN, where I really turned it on extra. Again, me being angry, me not having the life experience, me not taking HR with ESPN. I'm raising my voice to my superior here because you cannot mess with my guys' future like that.
Probably took it too far, but this was the biggest argument that I had with Amanda Gifford over at ESPN, where I really turned it on extra. Again, me being angry, me not having the life experience, me not taking HR with ESPN. I'm raising my voice to my superior here because you cannot mess with my guys' future like that.
And it needs to be stressed, but I do know that it was part calculated in that I only had one of these cards and I'm not going to burn it up when I'm an ESPN employee. Let me do this one. I have the safety of Enercom. But what do you remember about your experience there and all the additional attention that came with taking over for Mike and Mike for just a day?
And it needs to be stressed, but I do know that it was part calculated in that I only had one of these cards and I'm not going to burn it up when I'm an ESPN employee. Let me do this one. I have the safety of Enercom. But what do you remember about your experience there and all the additional attention that came with taking over for Mike and Mike for just a day?
I remember I sternly spoke to the producers that were producing from afar in Bristol. I'm like, we can't be on the air. and you not relay to us that our microphones are always hot. I can't be finding out about this two hours into this show. And I got a complaint from Amanda saying, hey, the producers didn't appreciate you criticizing them in front of everybody. I'm like, I have no direct comms.
I remember I sternly spoke to the producers that were producing from afar in Bristol. I'm like, we can't be on the air. and you not relay to us that our microphones are always hot. I can't be finding out about this two hours into this show. And I got a complaint from Amanda saying, hey, the producers didn't appreciate you criticizing them in front of everybody. I'm like, I have no direct comms.
This is the only way that I'm alerted to that they can actually hear me. We've been to Bristol like once. We have no idea the setup that's up there. I'm like, what is this culture over there? We could have lost everything. And you're talking to me about hurt feelings from dudes in a production truck when we need to be the priority.
This is the only way that I'm alerted to that they can actually hear me. We've been to Bristol like once. We have no idea the setup that's up there. I'm like, what is this culture over there? We could have lost everything. And you're talking to me about hurt feelings from dudes in a production truck when we need to be the priority.
And that was the real battle that I was having with managers over at ESPN. Like if we move, it's going to be a different management style from you too, because we're more of a renegade outfit. And that's why I seized on that opportunity. So I remember I had an interesting conversation with Dan during this time because I had saved up for about two years for a trip to Hawaii.
And that was the real battle that I was having with managers over at ESPN. Like if we move, it's going to be a different management style from you too, because we're more of a renegade outfit. And that's why I seized on that opportunity. So I remember I had an interesting conversation with Dan during this time because I had saved up for about two years for a trip to Hawaii.
And this was another one of those things, which is we had a target start date in mind and then the target start date just randomly moved up a week. And so if you see footage from the very first show that we do in the mid days, I'm in a Hawaiian shirt. I have a lei and I have like sunblock on my nose because I literally go straight from the airport to the studio.
And this was another one of those things, which is we had a target start date in mind and then the target start date just randomly moved up a week. And so if you see footage from the very first show that we do in the mid days, I'm in a Hawaiian shirt. I have a lei and I have like sunblock on my nose because I literally go straight from the airport to the studio.
No one was really paying attention to us. We had already made that decision. The decision to go to mid-days really changed everything for us in a variety of ways. I guess professionally, there were a lot of benefits too. Our reach was about to increase dramatically. Our visibility, our cultural impact, the money that we made, all this was a bit of a game changer for us.
No one was really paying attention to us. We had already made that decision. The decision to go to mid-days really changed everything for us in a variety of ways. I guess professionally, there were a lot of benefits too. Our reach was about to increase dramatically. Our visibility, our cultural impact, the money that we made, all this was a bit of a game changer for us.
I remember Dan kind of holding it against me, like, why didn't you cancel this trip? Because Dan and his brother were in the studio and putting up new art, really making the show look livelier and sprucing things up. Fair question by Dan. Yeah, and he was like, why didn't you? I'm like, well, Dan, I presently make $36,000 a year I save for this.
I remember Dan kind of holding it against me, like, why didn't you cancel this trip? Because Dan and his brother were in the studio and putting up new art, really making the show look livelier and sprucing things up. Fair question by Dan. Yeah, and he was like, why didn't you? I'm like, well, Dan, I presently make $36,000 a year I save for this.
It's not really one of those things like, oh, I'll get to Hawaii the next day.
It's not really one of those things like, oh, I'll get to Hawaii the next day.
bit of a disconnect there, but we survived it. But this general era, Dan has less confidence in the stuff that we're making. He's got additional attention because at this point it's inverted. I was by the end of our run at ESPN, the guy going into all the rooms. If someone had an issue with Dan, unless it was a top line issue, they'd go to me.
bit of a disconnect there, but we survived it. But this general era, Dan has less confidence in the stuff that we're making. He's got additional attention because at this point it's inverted. I was by the end of our run at ESPN, the guy going into all the rooms. If someone had an issue with Dan, unless it was a top line issue, they'd go to me.
Not when we first started in mid days because they didn't know me from Adam. I don't have these relationships and I don't have the trust built up with Dan yet where he's sending me on his behalf. So Dan, you're hearing all of this. You're talking to more suits than you ever wanted to in this era. You're not feeling good about the show. You have a breakup.
Not when we first started in mid days because they didn't know me from Adam. I don't have these relationships and I don't have the trust built up with Dan yet where he's sending me on his behalf. So Dan, you're hearing all of this. You're talking to more suits than you ever wanted to in this era. You're not feeling good about the show. You have a breakup.
The on-air relationship with Sue Gotts is a little icy. You're not physically engaged with the shipping container over there. You're doing this on this new set that looks cool. We pop. We're on ESPNU now. We have good channel placement. Our dreams are coming true. You're not entirely happy with your relationship with work, the content that you're making, and the bosses that are riding you.
The on-air relationship with Sue Gotts is a little icy. You're not physically engaged with the shipping container over there. You're doing this on this new set that looks cool. We pop. We're on ESPNU now. We have good channel placement. Our dreams are coming true. You're not entirely happy with your relationship with work, the content that you're making, and the bosses that are riding you.
What is your life like?
What is your life like?
But what Dan was consistently warning against as you and I pushed for this move.
But what Dan was consistently warning against as you and I pushed for this move.
Nothing's going to change.
Nothing's going to change.
You had to fight for Ron McGill even more because when we move time slots, they're like, hey, you play douche or no douche. You can't do douche or no douche here in this time slot. A lot of things from how we did the show. And you asked a very good question about the newsy aspects of the show. How did that change your process?
You had to fight for Ron McGill even more because when we move time slots, they're like, hey, you play douche or no douche. You can't do douche or no douche here in this time slot. A lot of things from how we did the show. And you asked a very good question about the newsy aspects of the show. How did that change your process?
to replace Colin Coward, and we'll get into all those spicy details here in this episode, was we go to this great prize piece of real estate in radio, and all of a sudden, overnight, a lot of suits that left us alone, that probably left the office early before we even turned on our microphones in the afternoon, all of a sudden had to justify their jobs and their responsibilities and pay attention to a show that didn't really care much for the ESPN brand.
to replace Colin Coward, and we'll get into all those spicy details here in this episode, was we go to this great prize piece of real estate in radio, and all of a sudden, overnight, a lot of suits that left us alone, that probably left the office early before we even turned on our microphones in the afternoon, all of a sudden had to justify their jobs and their responsibilities and pay attention to a show that didn't really care much for the ESPN brand.
But quickly, I just want to talk to you real quick as if Dan's not here. This was a time in the show where you knew that if you did something that sidetracked the show, got us off of a good vibe, you'd feel it. You could cut the tension with a knife during breaks.
But quickly, I just want to talk to you real quick as if Dan's not here. This was a time in the show where you knew that if you did something that sidetracked the show, got us off of a good vibe, you'd feel it. You could cut the tension with a knife during breaks.
clearly not happy part of us pushing for this growth allowed for dan to blame somebody else for that added pressure and we felt that and we knew that that was a cause to do in business for our decision to push so hard yeah we knew that occasionally during a break when dan is frustrated why'd you guys make me do this it was something that we heard occasionally it would cut like a knife but we knew that that was going to be coming our way with it i said it out loud huh often
clearly not happy part of us pushing for this growth allowed for dan to blame somebody else for that added pressure and we felt that and we knew that that was a cause to do in business for our decision to push so hard yeah we knew that occasionally during a break when dan is frustrated why'd you guys make me do this it was something that we heard occasionally it would cut like a knife but we knew that that was going to be coming our way with it i said it out loud huh often
Often articulated. I don't think Sue Gatz and I have ever directly communicated. Correct. as much as we did during that area because we genuinely loved you. And I think both of us knew that there was more going on there. It was clear to us that a lot of things were happening in your life. This was a time of change and your relationship with work was changing and you were always a vibes guy.
Often articulated. I don't think Sue Gatz and I have ever directly communicated. Correct. as much as we did during that area because we genuinely loved you. And I think both of us knew that there was more going on there. It was clear to us that a lot of things were happening in your life. This was a time of change and your relationship with work was changing and you were always a vibes guy.
If what you were doing wasn't feeling good to you and understandably so, because at this point you're doing it for 10 years. Why is the thing that I've always felt good for 10 years and all of a sudden not feeling good, even though when this is a time that I should be enjoying the rewards. Right. So we were racking our brains over how do we fix this?
If what you were doing wasn't feeling good to you and understandably so, because at this point you're doing it for 10 years. Why is the thing that I've always felt good for 10 years and all of a sudden not feeling good, even though when this is a time that I should be enjoying the rewards. Right. So we were racking our brains over how do we fix this?
And also sometimes vent to one another because we knew that we had a lot of displaced rage. No question. We probably individually and collectively occasionally dropped the ball and had reasons for you to come down on us professionally.
And also sometimes vent to one another because we knew that we had a lot of displaced rage. No question. We probably individually and collectively occasionally dropped the ball and had reasons for you to come down on us professionally.
But what was happening was a series of things that we didn't have control over that would often just manifest with you saying, can't believe you guys made me do this.
But what was happening was a series of things that we didn't have control over that would often just manifest with you saying, can't believe you guys made me do this.
And we were out of answers. Like nothing was really working. And naturally, and I understand like this isn't truly fair. I'm just doing this for the audience. Dan's already lived through this because we've tried to pick up the pieces after that and figure out what happened there. And we've since addressed it. But during this time, naturally Dan's stressed. I'm a huge ball of stress.
And we were out of answers. Like nothing was really working. And naturally, and I understand like this isn't truly fair. I'm just doing this for the audience. Dan's already lived through this because we've tried to pick up the pieces after that and figure out what happened there. And we've since addressed it. But during this time, naturally Dan's stressed. I'm a huge ball of stress.
And a stressed Dan is really bad for the show. It's hugely bad for the show. We're all trying to find answers, and sometimes it's just vibes. But me, early manager, unconventional climb. I'm taking this out on my shipping container. I am passing on my stress to others. I'm growing frustrated. There's all sorts of communication issues.
And a stressed Dan is really bad for the show. It's hugely bad for the show. We're all trying to find answers, and sometimes it's just vibes. But me, early manager, unconventional climb. I'm taking this out on my shipping container. I am passing on my stress to others. I'm growing frustrated. There's all sorts of communication issues.
This is a very young production team outside of Allison that I'm just struggling to connect with them, get them to be professionals in this moment.
This is a very young production team outside of Allison that I'm just struggling to connect with them, get them to be professionals in this moment.
seeds of resentment that i end up reaping a little bit later on when we probably creatively turn the corner this is when i am probably at my worst with my anger this is when my communication isn't good this is when i'm most surly i'm just genuinely frustrated and it's not until i find the solution which we'll get into now that it kind of turns that corner
seeds of resentment that i end up reaping a little bit later on when we probably creatively turn the corner this is when i am probably at my worst with my anger this is when my communication isn't good this is when i'm most surly i'm just genuinely frustrated and it's not until i find the solution which we'll get into now that it kind of turns that corner
I remember you actually being strong. Our very first afternoon episode for ESPN Radio, you were a star that day. Dan was nervous and we were thanking you for weeks on end about how good you were at the beginning. You were probably at the peak of your powers in terms of hosting and being able to roll with these punches.
I remember you actually being strong. Our very first afternoon episode for ESPN Radio, you were a star that day. Dan was nervous and we were thanking you for weeks on end about how good you were at the beginning. You were probably at the peak of your powers in terms of hosting and being able to roll with these punches.
You were kind of a guiding light in being able to tune out that noise and keep doing it. You were a punching bag when you needed to be and We probably don't navigate it without your general approach to it here. Your on-air character is interesting, but it's so tied into Dan's approach that it really all settles in on Dan. And part of being the 10 a.m.
You were kind of a guiding light in being able to tune out that noise and keep doing it. You were a punching bag when you needed to be and We probably don't navigate it without your general approach to it here. Your on-air character is interesting, but it's so tied into Dan's approach that it really all settles in on Dan. And part of being the 10 a.m.
ESPN radio show is we set the table and we've never set the table before. And setting the table is important to our executives over there. What about your actual approach and process did people try to meddle with?
ESPN radio show is we set the table and we've never set the table before. And setting the table is important to our executives over there. What about your actual approach and process did people try to meddle with?
Doesn't Skipper, when we move time slots, recommend that Bomani kind of replace Duvall? Recommend? He said it right to my face. Yeah. Oh, that's right. In his office. We took a meeting with Skipper just as this all happened.
Doesn't Skipper, when we move time slots, recommend that Bomani kind of replace Duvall? Recommend? He said it right to my face. Yeah. Oh, that's right. In his office. We took a meeting with Skipper just as this all happened.
Oh, so many great Drogba jerseys in his office. And it was cool being in the office of the president. It wasn't so great when Skipper was like, hey, and who are you?
Oh, so many great Drogba jerseys in his office. And it was cool being in the office of the president. It wasn't so great when Skipper was like, hey, and who are you?
I'm sure Stugat, it hurt your ego to hear that. But on the opposite side of the coin, uncommon to have a host that says, no Stugats, no show.
I'm sure Stugat, it hurt your ego to hear that. But on the opposite side of the coin, uncommon to have a host that says, no Stugats, no show.
And he was going through a really difficult time at work, understanding that, look, I had plenty of bad days when we were on in the afternoon, plenty of stressful days. And it was really compounded by the time I got home and it's 10 o'clock and I don't have anything to take my mind off of. I had stressful days.
And he was going through a really difficult time at work, understanding that, look, I had plenty of bad days when we were on in the afternoon, plenty of stressful days. And it was really compounded by the time I got home and it's 10 o'clock and I don't have anything to take my mind off of. I had stressful days.
So let's get into how that opportunity presented itself initially. But we have to address that around this time, it's kind of an ambiguous timeline. Chris Cody was an intern and then made full-time, I think briefly, by Lincoln Financial, which was about to sell to Entercom.
So let's get into how that opportunity presented itself initially. But we have to address that around this time, it's kind of an ambiguous timeline. Chris Cody was an intern and then made full-time, I think briefly, by Lincoln Financial, which was about to sell to Entercom.
And let me tell you, a stressful day hits different when you don't have to go through drive time traffic and you have the rest of your afternoon and evening to kind of get over it. So it was tough. I was appreciative that Dan made the move. I wasn't so appreciative that we were kind of being blamed for making this move, but it's a process and we have to figure something out.
And let me tell you, a stressful day hits different when you don't have to go through drive time traffic and you have the rest of your afternoon and evening to kind of get over it. So it was tough. I was appreciative that Dan made the move. I wasn't so appreciative that we were kind of being blamed for making this move, but it's a process and we have to figure something out.
Because there is not going to be a show anymore if we don't get the show better, if we don't get Dan in a proper headspace to create. We're out on this main stage and Dan keeps making the observations because we're doing local hours before we go live for ESPN radio. And he says things like, why does local feel so much better than national? It's what we're used to.
Because there is not going to be a show anymore if we don't get the show better, if we don't get Dan in a proper headspace to create. We're out on this main stage and Dan keeps making the observations because we're doing local hours before we go live for ESPN radio. And he says things like, why does local feel so much better than national? It's what we're used to.
I'm like, is it the local stories? What is it? And this was an issue that was facing us for close to a year. We were out on that main set in middays for a good chunk of time, but it felt like forever. And ultimately, thank God she listened to me. I go to Amanda. I'm like, Dan keeps saying local hour feels better. And we keep trying to find the reasons why.
I'm like, is it the local stories? What is it? And this was an issue that was facing us for close to a year. We were out on that main set in middays for a good chunk of time, but it felt like forever. And ultimately, thank God she listened to me. I go to Amanda. I'm like, Dan keeps saying local hour feels better. And we keep trying to find the reasons why.
But I think ultimately, it might just be the room because he's not disconnected from the shipping container. It's a totally different workflow for him. We did the local hour in the radio studio. In the radio studio. And then we'd go out to the main set because it looked better and that set was wired and we wanted to look polished.
But I think ultimately, it might just be the room because he's not disconnected from the shipping container. It's a totally different workflow for him. We did the local hour in the radio studio. In the radio studio. And then we'd go out to the main set because it looked better and that set was wired and we wanted to look polished.
I want to once again highlight it wasn't the subject matter. It was the room. It ended up being the room and our aversion to returning to that room because it seems obvious. Just do it from there. Well, this is a very big time move for our show. And at least on that main set, we looked the part.
I want to once again highlight it wasn't the subject matter. It was the room. It ended up being the room and our aversion to returning to that room because it seems obvious. Just do it from there. Well, this is a very big time move for our show. And at least on that main set, we looked the part.
And to the listener, they didn't really know that the show in our mind was dipping because we didn't feel good creating it. Why would we move into this broom closet as we're ascending? Why would we go into this cramped space? They spent all this money. We have such a cool futuristic looking set. Why would we go into a broom closet as we get bigger? That doesn't make sense.
And to the listener, they didn't really know that the show in our mind was dipping because we didn't feel good creating it. Why would we move into this broom closet as we're ascending? Why would we go into this cramped space? They spent all this money. We have such a cool futuristic looking set. Why would we go into a broom closet as we get bigger? That doesn't make sense.
But ultimately we got past that and that had to be what changed things. We got bigger. The room got smaller. We did. So I talked to Amanda Gifford and I'm like, look, I can't get representative sample here without us being off of television for a while because I didn't know if it was a studio thing or if it was a TV thing. I just knew that I didn't have the sufficient data to make the call.
But ultimately we got past that and that had to be what changed things. We got bigger. The room got smaller. We did. So I talked to Amanda Gifford and I'm like, look, I can't get representative sample here without us being off of television for a while because I didn't know if it was a studio thing or if it was a TV thing. I just knew that I didn't have the sufficient data to make the call.
Chris Cody goes from Nepo Baby intern to Nepo Baby employee and joins our team formally because I remember Chris in the Clevelander as we were building stuff out being a big part of that process.
Chris Cody goes from Nepo Baby intern to Nepo Baby employee and joins our team formally because I remember Chris in the Clevelander as we were building stuff out being a big part of that process.
So let me just get two weeks in that studio, man. I'm begging you. No TV, no nothing. I need to get Dan in a place where he feels good leaving that studio. Back to the roots. Where we have good
So let me just get two weeks in that studio, man. I'm begging you. No TV, no nothing. I need to get Dan in a place where he feels good leaving that studio. Back to the roots. Where we have good
shows because if we string together a couple good shows we can turn this thing around and it was in that two-week span and god bless amanda for allowing it and our partners and ride home allowed it dspnu had to find some other programming to fill in those two weeks but it worked almost immediately it did and it felt good and it got dan in the right headspace this was around the time that we had the relationship counselor kind of shine a light on because we weren't going to say that i gotta be honest i was pissed because i enjoyed the big room and the big lights and i wanted the big lights and
shows because if we string together a couple good shows we can turn this thing around and it was in that two-week span and god bless amanda for allowing it and our partners and ride home allowed it dspnu had to find some other programming to fill in those two weeks but it worked almost immediately it did and it felt good and it got dan in the right headspace this was around the time that we had the relationship counselor kind of shine a light on because we weren't going to say that i gotta be honest i was pissed because i enjoyed the big room and the big lights and i wanted the big lights and
And it made us happier because we got our guy being happy again. What was it about that transformation that it finally clicked and we could finally turn that ugly corner?
And it made us happier because we got our guy being happy again. What was it about that transformation that it finally clicked and we could finally turn that ugly corner?
Speaking literally from on high. You remember when he first started having guests there? He'd like, we'd have Chris Mullen in the studio and Chris Mullen's neck would be, he would be looking straight up at Colin as Colin gave, Takes from on high. We knew that we had a different aesthetic. I love the way that the show looked on the main set. That little island actually looked cool.
Speaking literally from on high. You remember when he first started having guests there? He'd like, we'd have Chris Mullen in the studio and Chris Mullen's neck would be, he would be looking straight up at Colin as Colin gave, Takes from on high. We knew that we had a different aesthetic. I love the way that the show looked on the main set. That little island actually looked cool.
We could play with that big screen. If we had Brian Windhorst on, we could have a goofy photo of Brian Windhorst.
We could play with that big screen. If we had Brian Windhorst on, we could have a goofy photo of Brian Windhorst.
Because the shipping container was a bigger part of the show. And Dan would do the show off of their faces. And it's a lot different when you're doing it on the main set and you're playing to just a camera guy who's watching you do work you're insecure about.
Because the shipping container was a bigger part of the show. And Dan would do the show off of their faces. And it's a lot different when you're doing it on the main set and you're playing to just a camera guy who's watching you do work you're insecure about.
We ceased being a radio show that was trying to be on TV to a radio show that TV was going to have to work around. And that decision really helped turn the corner for us. We start feeling good about what we're doing. And it really serves as a launchpad for what I would say would be commonly referred to as the golden era for this show. It saw the most growth. It saw the most creativity.
We ceased being a radio show that was trying to be on TV to a radio show that TV was going to have to work around. And that decision really helped turn the corner for us. We start feeling good about what we're doing. And it really serves as a launchpad for what I would say would be commonly referred to as the golden era for this show. It saw the most growth. It saw the most creativity.
This is when our show was really funny, especially sticking out compared to the rest of the network.
This is when our show was really funny, especially sticking out compared to the rest of the network.
We were able to parody ESPN while being on ESPN. We were able to be anti-establishment while working for the worldwide leader in sports in a coveted time slot. We got to be this renegade outfit that was still, if you get down to brass tacks, the establishment. You're doing 10 to 1 on ESPN radio. You're not this little scrappy underdog, but we always maintained that.
We were able to parody ESPN while being on ESPN. We were able to be anti-establishment while working for the worldwide leader in sports in a coveted time slot. We got to be this renegade outfit that was still, if you get down to brass tacks, the establishment. You're doing 10 to 1 on ESPN radio. You're not this little scrappy underdog, but we always maintained that.
We were always kind of anarchist. We were punk rockers, even though we had one of the biggest gigs in the nation. And this really, for me and Dan too, interpersonally, and for you and I, because we look back on that time as very challenging and we kind of survived it. Made us closer. It did. But also with Dan, me being able to get Dan back on track.
We were always kind of anarchist. We were punk rockers, even though we had one of the biggest gigs in the nation. And this really, for me and Dan too, interpersonally, and for you and I, because we look back on that time as very challenging and we kind of survived it. Made us closer. It did. But also with Dan, me being able to get Dan back on track.
With that decision, in collaboration with people at ESPN that allowed for it, it changed my relationship with Dan, which was still contentious. There was still some resentment because I was one of these people that was pushing for a decision that ultimately led to a lot of unhappiness for him.
With that decision, in collaboration with people at ESPN that allowed for it, it changed my relationship with Dan, which was still contentious. There was still some resentment because I was one of these people that was pushing for a decision that ultimately led to a lot of unhappiness for him.
Being able to fix that problem and get Dan feeling good with his relationship with the content that he was making, with his work, with his workspace, putting a smile on Dan's face, letting Dan see the smile on others' face, this is where I became Dan's guy. This is where I truly think I got most of Dan's trust because I overcame some hard stuff.
Being able to fix that problem and get Dan feeling good with his relationship with the content that he was making, with his work, with his workspace, putting a smile on Dan's face, letting Dan see the smile on others' face, this is where I became Dan's guy. This is where I truly think I got most of Dan's trust because I overcame some hard stuff.
I still struggled as a manager, but I was going into the breach and fighting people on his behalf to get this done. I got buy-in from ESPN. I really stuck my neck out there for him. It was never said in this moment, but I really do think that this was a tipping point for you and I, in which you became a big Mike guy because I was able to find the solution here.
I still struggled as a manager, but I was going into the breach and fighting people on his behalf to get this done. I got buy-in from ESPN. I really stuck my neck out there for him. It was never said in this moment, but I really do think that this was a tipping point for you and I, in which you became a big Mike guy because I was able to find the solution here.
A switch flipping.
A switch flipping.
Grass taxes.
Grass taxes.
I think getting you to be happy again and have fun and laugh with your friends. You were yearning for that at this point for an extended period of time. It was about a year and a half where you're unhappy, felt longer.
I think getting you to be happy again and have fun and laugh with your friends. You were yearning for that at this point for an extended period of time. It was about a year and a half where you're unhappy, felt longer.
Even as Skipper's like saying no to Bomani.
Even as Skipper's like saying no to Bomani.
It felt like a big achievement when it happened, but certainly with the benefit of hindsight, I know that that's where I became Dan's guide. Now, in that year and a half that we were struggling, I write a lot of bad checks and seeds of resentment will get fortified because of how I handled that stress. I wasn't good. At this point, I had interned the therapy. I didn't know how to carry myself.
It felt like a big achievement when it happened, but certainly with the benefit of hindsight, I know that that's where I became Dan's guide. Now, in that year and a half that we were struggling, I write a lot of bad checks and seeds of resentment will get fortified because of how I handled that stress. I wasn't good. At this point, I had interned the therapy. I didn't know how to carry myself.
Like I felt like if I felt And if I was being let down, I only had so many off ramps before I would just get angry. And I found out the pitfalls of being angry. And at this point, I started clashing a little bit with Allison. And I'm not really clashing with a container so much as being frustrated with telling them what to do and they're not doing it. And I'm holding them accountable.
Like I felt like if I felt And if I was being let down, I only had so many off ramps before I would just get angry. And I found out the pitfalls of being angry. And at this point, I started clashing a little bit with Allison. And I'm not really clashing with a container so much as being frustrated with telling them what to do and they're not doing it. And I'm holding them accountable.
Yeah, they're also in a different room. Right. So like, I'll feel it. I'm sitting in that and I'm just not great at being able to deal with that. And even though our show is about to turn a corner creatively, grow and really do some important good stuff that changes the game.
Yeah, they're also in a different room. Right. So like, I'll feel it. I'm sitting in that and I'm just not great at being able to deal with that. And even though our show is about to turn a corner creatively, grow and really do some important good stuff that changes the game.
I, unbeknownst to me, open the door for more resentment that quite honestly, I'm still dealing with and trying to dig myself out of to this day. But I don't want to set up the next episode on such a bummer because when I think about what's ahead of the show on the timeline, 2016, 2017, those were such great years for our show. It felt like we were doing some really cool, big things.
I, unbeknownst to me, open the door for more resentment that quite honestly, I'm still dealing with and trying to dig myself out of to this day. But I don't want to set up the next episode on such a bummer because when I think about what's ahead of the show on the timeline, 2016, 2017, those were such great years for our show. It felt like we were doing some really cool, big things.
It felt like we were the rock stars, the bad boys of podcasting. Podcasting all of a sudden becomes a legitimate industry. And it felt like all the moves, all the bets that we put, on ourselves, carrying over the RSS feed, moving to middays. Now that we're feeling better about the work that we're doing, these bets are starting to pay off and you kind of feel like top dog a little bit.
It felt like we were the rock stars, the bad boys of podcasting. Podcasting all of a sudden becomes a legitimate industry. And it felt like all the moves, all the bets that we put, on ourselves, carrying over the RSS feed, moving to middays. Now that we're feeling better about the work that we're doing, these bets are starting to pay off and you kind of feel like top dog a little bit.
So it led to a really good time, Dan.
So it led to a really good time, Dan.
Growing up early in the industry, I saw creative sparks fly. Tension usually breed good segments afterwards. I grew up in a very angry household, not to get too much into that stuff, but I had never had to be checked on how I carried myself. We highlighted a scenario at 790 where I got in a yelling match with Todd Castleberry and I survived it. I ended up winning that political battle there.
Growing up early in the industry, I saw creative sparks fly. Tension usually breed good segments afterwards. I grew up in a very angry household, not to get too much into that stuff, but I had never had to be checked on how I carried myself. We highlighted a scenario at 790 where I got in a yelling match with Todd Castleberry and I survived it. I ended up winning that political battle there.
So I see a lot of bad behavior fortifying here. And shortly before I tell Dan straight up, I'm scared of you is because now I have to talk this thing out. Because by that point, Dan straight up told me, you yell at me one more time. This is how you lose your job.
So I see a lot of bad behavior fortifying here. And shortly before I tell Dan straight up, I'm scared of you is because now I have to talk this thing out. Because by that point, Dan straight up told me, you yell at me one more time. This is how you lose your job.
It's not going to be because of whether or not you get along with Allison, whether or not we're good, whether or not ESPN is happy with us. Just respect me. Respect me. Stop yelling at me. Just because you saw Hawk do it a couple of times, we're not there yet. And you are angry, kid. You need to think.
It's not going to be because of whether or not you get along with Allison, whether or not we're good, whether or not ESPN is happy with us. Just respect me. Respect me. Stop yelling at me. Just because you saw Hawk do it a couple of times, we're not there yet. And you are angry, kid. You need to think.
Quite the opposite. There was a time there where I just didn't have many moves other than anger because I was clearly frustrated. Look, we told you ultimately what ended up being our salvation was moving into that other studio. It was quite literally the answer to all our problems. How did we deduce that?
Quite the opposite. There was a time there where I just didn't have many moves other than anger because I was clearly frustrated. Look, we told you ultimately what ended up being our salvation was moving into that other studio. It was quite literally the answer to all our problems. How did we deduce that?
By being super frustrated and angry and blaming other things that weren't the actual issue and trying to work through that, totally being frustrated with, this is not the issue, this is getting blamed for it, how do I fix this?
By being super frustrated and angry and blaming other things that weren't the actual issue and trying to work through that, totally being frustrated with, this is not the issue, this is getting blamed for it, how do I fix this?
Yeah, it's a miserable place to be at for a year and a half, but it would have been a hell of a lot more miserable if I was still hourly and getting home at 10 o'clock in the evening. In the evening, I arrived to the place where so many people in my industry wanted to be. And I wasn't super happy with it. And I felt like I was crumbling under the pressure. Thank God we turned that corner.
Yeah, it's a miserable place to be at for a year and a half, but it would have been a hell of a lot more miserable if I was still hourly and getting home at 10 o'clock in the evening. In the evening, I arrived to the place where so many people in my industry wanted to be. And I wasn't super happy with it. And I felt like I was crumbling under the pressure. Thank God we turned that corner.
I was made better for it, not just as a manager, but as a person. I just didn't know it then. It was real challenging, but Dan fixed it. To a large part. I don't really talk about my anger issue as it's something that I conquered. Dan occasionally says that you got over it. And I talk about it like it's recovery from an addiction and you're never fully recovered.
I was made better for it, not just as a manager, but as a person. I just didn't know it then. It was real challenging, but Dan fixed it. To a large part. I don't really talk about my anger issue as it's something that I conquered. Dan occasionally says that you got over it. And I talk about it like it's recovery from an addiction and you're never fully recovered.
It's constant because there are constantly times, not constantly, I've gotten better. I've been generally more patient. But there are times where I feel it bubble up and I have to really try to avoid from ever getting my life back into a place. I was so ready to be off the cuff angry.
It's constant because there are constantly times, not constantly, I've gotten better. I've been generally more patient. But there are times where I feel it bubble up and I have to really try to avoid from ever getting my life back into a place. I was so ready to be off the cuff angry.
Hmm. Talking about like the anger stuff, like specifically going away?
Hmm. Talking about like the anger stuff, like specifically going away?
I'm confronted by everything. I wasn't fully aware of what Dan was to me as like the center of all my stress and my relationship with work not being super healthy. I ended up being that for a lot of people because I was the go-between and Dan wouldn't chastise them or criticize them or hold them accountable.
I'm confronted by everything. I wasn't fully aware of what Dan was to me as like the center of all my stress and my relationship with work not being super healthy. I ended up being that for a lot of people because I was the go-between and Dan wouldn't chastise them or criticize them or hold them accountable.
And I was always that person for other people, not just in the radio studio, but for TV people, for ESPN managers. I was always a very convenient fall guy, not without blame. In many respects, I was that person. That was just cost of doing business.
And I was always that person for other people, not just in the radio studio, but for TV people, for ESPN managers. I was always a very convenient fall guy, not without blame. In many respects, I was that person. That was just cost of doing business.
I don't think people really understood the level of stress that I was under, my unique position, how it was so tied to Dan's healthy relationship with work. And ultimately, I'm not going to change a damn thing. I wish I knew about the anger sooner. And I certainly wish that the way that I found out about how much I had hurt people during this time was presented at me in a different way.
I don't think people really understood the level of stress that I was under, my unique position, how it was so tied to Dan's healthy relationship with work. And ultimately, I'm not going to change a damn thing. I wish I knew about the anger sooner. And I certainly wish that the way that I found out about how much I had hurt people during this time was presented at me in a different way.
And we'll get to that in a future episode. But I did what I had to do to get us across that line. I know Dan has said time and time again in the last episode and this episode, the show was never going to be over. Dan had the relationship with Skipper that if he said, I can't do this anymore, he had a successful show with Dan LeBretard is highly questionable and then highly questionable.
And we'll get to that in a future episode. But I did what I had to do to get us across that line. I know Dan has said time and time again in the last episode and this episode, the show was never going to be over. Dan had the relationship with Skipper that if he said, I can't do this anymore, he had a successful show with Dan LeBretard is highly questionable and then highly questionable.
He was going to be fine. He would have found his way. You and I live with this all the time. I wasn't going to be. And I knew I had to get this show over the line by almost any means necessary. And we did. We figured it out.
He was going to be fine. He would have found his way. You and I live with this all the time. I wasn't going to be. And I knew I had to get this show over the line by almost any means necessary. And we did. We figured it out.
It did. It made me better, certainly in the long run. I am better today because of finding that solution. I am better today because Dan, whether he knows it or not, found a lot of trust in me. I look back on that time, that battle, that decision to move back into that womb because we invite Mike Schur into it a little bit later on. And he says, you guys are just in a baby's womb right now.
It did. It made me better, certainly in the long run. I am better today because of finding that solution. I am better today because Dan, whether he knows it or not, found a lot of trust in me. I look back on that time, that battle, that decision to move back into that womb because we invite Mike Schur into it a little bit later on. And he says, you guys are just in a baby's womb right now.
I look back on being able to get this show right as my biggest achievement because I genuinely don't know if there's a show today if we didn't figure that out. It was such a crucial move and it was so high stakes. It wasn't like the afternoons. We had people managing us at
I look back on being able to get this show right as my biggest achievement because I genuinely don't know if there's a show today if we didn't figure that out. It was such a crucial move and it was so high stakes. It wasn't like the afternoons. We had people managing us at
this point and a whole economy revolved around us figuring that issue out and we did and then dan i mentioned that this is when you were at your strongest i think once dan got back into that studio this is where for my money dan and stugatz are the premier pairing in sports audio There are people that you seek out their opinions. They're giving you funny day in, day out consistently.
this point and a whole economy revolved around us figuring that issue out and we did and then dan i mentioned that this is when you were at your strongest i think once dan got back into that studio this is where for my money dan and stugatz are the premier pairing in sports audio There are people that you seek out their opinions. They're giving you funny day in, day out consistently.
The timing is great. Other characters are finding the roles. The show is ultra creative. We're doing parody songs. We're doing bits. We're doing trailers. We're doing visual stuff. We're starting to have clips break out on social media. This is where the show really breaks out and it doesn't do any of that stuff if there's no show and we had to get the show continuing.
The timing is great. Other characters are finding the roles. The show is ultra creative. We're doing parody songs. We're doing bits. We're doing trailers. We're doing visual stuff. We're starting to have clips break out on social media. This is where the show really breaks out and it doesn't do any of that stuff if there's no show and we had to get the show continuing.
It's a little bit sports here and there. But when Dan says, keep them away from me, keep that away from me, you're probably listening to this right now and saying, well, it seems like all the issues that you're having are just in a personal and your literal work environment. What kind of noise does Mike need to keep away from you?
It's a little bit sports here and there. But when Dan says, keep them away from me, keep that away from me, you're probably listening to this right now and saying, well, it seems like all the issues that you're having are just in a personal and your literal work environment. What kind of noise does Mike need to keep away from you?
In the next episode, Donald Trump gets elected and Colin Kaepernick becomes the topic du jour for a solid year. It got noisy. And it gets real noisy and suits start creeping over. And that's when we started being told, stick to sports. I was fine with that. It's the holidays. People are shopping for great gifts.
In the next episode, Donald Trump gets elected and Colin Kaepernick becomes the topic du jour for a solid year. It got noisy. And it gets real noisy and suits start creeping over. And that's when we started being told, stick to sports. I was fine with that. It's the holidays. People are shopping for great gifts.
One of the great gifts that I always like depending on is something experiential, like going to a sporting event. There's nothing like it, especially when the stakes are ratcheted up high, especially when it's a game that everybody wants to go to. Well, sometimes those games are sold out and you have no other option than to go to the secondary market. Well, go to the industry leader. That's right.
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Tell me more about that because one of your best friends in the world is Greg Cody and his son wants to do this. It's one thing to say, yeah, we'll give him an internship, see if he wants to try it out. But by then you grew a bit more of a callous to the radio industry, having gone through the primetime media days. Your tone with Chris Cody was a loving one.
Tell me more about that because one of your best friends in the world is Greg Cody and his son wants to do this. It's one thing to say, yeah, we'll give him an internship, see if he wants to try it out. But by then you grew a bit more of a callous to the radio industry, having gone through the primetime media days. Your tone with Chris Cody was a loving one.
Like, I don't think you want this in your life because it's a very difficult industry. And I'm curious to know how those conversations went, not just with Chris, but perhaps with his father.
Like, I don't think you want this in your life because it's a very difficult industry. And I'm curious to know how those conversations went, not just with Chris, but perhaps with his father.
But you're making me think about Zagaki now. And I do love me some Joe Zagaki.
But you're making me think about Zagaki now. And I do love me some Joe Zagaki.
35!
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I mean, it's a parody of sorts. It's definitely a bit of an exaggeration, but yeah, touchdown. That's a Miami's Aquarium touchdown is ruining every great call.
I mean, it's a parody of sorts. It's definitely a bit of an exaggeration, but yeah, touchdown. That's a Miami's Aquarium touchdown is ruining every great call.
25, 20, 15.
25, 20, 15.
Genius. That's his idea. And his idea allows for a certain amount of theatrics. Like, you could, like, throw, like, something, like a smoke bomb or something. Magic at bad time. Like, you throw out the smoke bomb onto the field. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Genius. That's his idea. And his idea allows for a certain amount of theatrics. Like, you could, like, throw, like, something, like a smoke bomb or something. Magic at bad time. Like, you throw out the smoke bomb onto the field. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like a little firework, like a little cherry bomb. Magic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like a little firework, like a little cherry bomb. Magic.
I didn't understand that. I didn't either. Sorry for party rocking.
I didn't understand that. I didn't either. Sorry for party rocking.
future in this career just because we were having so much fun creating stuff he didn't take your advice i was i was happy to have chris aboard though very quietly and i'd say quietly because as we've highlighted before this era the shipping container is just about finding its voice but the full-on ensemble that maybe the audience now knows wasn't fully developed these characters individually and collectively weren't fully developed but we were a very young team and it was very different than what you had before when you had mark hawkman's cul-de-sac in charge
future in this career just because we were having so much fun creating stuff he didn't take your advice i was i was happy to have chris aboard though very quietly and i'd say quietly because as we've highlighted before this era the shipping container is just about finding its voice but the full-on ensemble that maybe the audience now knows wasn't fully developed these characters individually and collectively weren't fully developed but we were a very young team and it was very different than what you had before when you had mark hawkman's cul-de-sac in charge
Steve Martin was a prop comic. He was? Yeah, yeah. He came out with an arrow through his head.
Steve Martin was a prop comic. He was? Yeah, yeah. He came out with an arrow through his head.
Had everything to do with Vin Scully.
Had everything to do with Vin Scully.
Yes, very good. He was great for morale. He had a good energy in there. He was fun, lighthearted. Billy was stressed with all these additional responsibilities. Roy is very cerebral. So to have that youthful energy there was good. And we also got even more popular by being so much younger in that back room. hip show, if you can imagine that way back then.
Yes, very good. He was great for morale. He had a good energy in there. He was fun, lighthearted. Billy was stressed with all these additional responsibilities. Roy is very cerebral. So to have that youthful energy there was good. And we also got even more popular by being so much younger in that back room. hip show, if you can imagine that way back then.
And I think it was in small part due to the young people around you. You were playing literally in your studios to a younger audience, so you really sharpened that skill. So the show starts humming. We feel good about the show that we're doing in the afternoons for ESPN Radio. We have contacts like Amanda telling us what a great job that we're doing.
And I think it was in small part due to the young people around you. You were playing literally in your studios to a younger audience, so you really sharpened that skill. So the show starts humming. We feel good about the show that we're doing in the afternoons for ESPN Radio. We have contacts like Amanda telling us what a great job that we're doing.
Trog Keller's telling us what a great job that we're doing. Colin Cowherd has a making it pretty well known that he is negotiating with Fox. This is around the time that FS1 launches, and they want to make a big splash with their talent signings. So it seems as though Colin Cowherd is going to leave the mothership, and we are the likely replacement there.
Trog Keller's telling us what a great job that we're doing. Colin Cowherd has a making it pretty well known that he is negotiating with Fox. This is around the time that FS1 launches, and they want to make a big splash with their talent signings. So it seems as though Colin Cowherd is going to leave the mothership, and we are the likely replacement there.
Conversations, I imagine, start happening with Trace, and I'm curious. Was it your feeling that we were... I feel like we were the obvious backup to, they were clearly trying to extend with Colin Cowherd, but they weren't going to pay him that. Had Colin Cowherd decided to leave, we would be the show that replaced him.
Conversations, I imagine, start happening with Trace, and I'm curious. Was it your feeling that we were... I feel like we were the obvious backup to, they were clearly trying to extend with Colin Cowherd, but they weren't going to pay him that. Had Colin Cowherd decided to leave, we would be the show that replaced him.
I want to know what those conversations were like with Trace, your agents, ESPN, and did you even talk to Colin about it?
I want to know what those conversations were like with Trace, your agents, ESPN, and did you even talk to Colin about it?
Norm on the phone for like two minutes. I'm pretty sure she said, no, you go on hold first. No, you go on hold first. Really? That's what happened? She was so flustered and she forgot to put him on hold. Oh, God. She just hung up on him.
Norm on the phone for like two minutes. I'm pretty sure she said, no, you go on hold first. No, you go on hold first. Really? That's what happened? She was so flustered and she forgot to put him on hold. Oh, God. She just hung up on him.
She read his book and developed this thing.
She read his book and developed this thing.
It's the holidays, people are shopping for great gifts. One of the great gifts that I always like depending on is something experiential, like going to a sporting event. There's nothing like it, especially when the stakes are ratcheted up high, especially when it's a game that everybody wants to go to.
It's the holidays, people are shopping for great gifts. One of the great gifts that I always like depending on is something experiential, like going to a sporting event. There's nothing like it, especially when the stakes are ratcheted up high, especially when it's a game that everybody wants to go to.
Well, sometimes those games are sold out and you have no other option than to go to the secondary market. Well, go to the industry leader. That's right. For my money, it is the absolute best one out there. Game time. And guess what? Game Time is focused on togetherness this holiday season. That means when you bring people together at live events, the experience is that much better.
Well, sometimes those games are sold out and you have no other option than to go to the secondary market. Well, go to the industry leader. That's right. For my money, it is the absolute best one out there. Game time. And guess what? Game Time is focused on togetherness this holiday season. That means when you bring people together at live events, the experience is that much better.
And it makes for the perfect gift. People listen to me when I say that. And they have this amazing new feature, Game Time Picks. With Game Time Picks, it helps to make curation easier to save more on sports, concerts, comedy, theater, and more. And it's got that beautiful toggle option, all in pricing. Toggling this feature shows up the total amount up front. No surprise fees at checkout.
And it makes for the perfect gift. People listen to me when I say that. And they have this amazing new feature, Game Time Picks. With Game Time Picks, it helps to make curation easier to save more on sports, concerts, comedy, theater, and more. And it's got that beautiful toggle option, all in pricing. Toggling this feature shows up the total amount up front. No surprise fees at checkout.
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The motivations to move to middays were pretty obvious, but for those that don't know, Dan had a very different relationship with time. Dan was a single man, didn't have kids, and had just moved into a studio that was blocks away from his home.
The motivations to move to middays were pretty obvious, but for those that don't know, Dan had a very different relationship with time. Dan was a single man, didn't have kids, and had just moved into a studio that was blocks away from his home.
So when we were in the afternoons, I'd be doing all my pre-production, I'd get there close to noon, our show would end at 7 o'clock, I got a ton of work to do. ton of post-production to do. And then I leave the island and I crawl across the 836 and I'm getting home sometimes around 945. So family life is difficult to maintain at this point.
So when we were in the afternoons, I'd be doing all my pre-production, I'd get there close to noon, our show would end at 7 o'clock, I got a ton of work to do. ton of post-production to do. And then I leave the island and I crawl across the 836 and I'm getting home sometimes around 945. So family life is difficult to maintain at this point.
A young husband, I want to start thinking about having a family. How do I spend time? Am I just not going to be a part of this child's early life with this window? And also you make stuff for people to hear it. We were starting to be a really big digital property. Certainly for ESPN we were, but the time that people were getting to our podcast was when games were tipping off.
A young husband, I want to start thinking about having a family. How do I spend time? Am I just not going to be a part of this child's early life with this window? And also you make stuff for people to hear it. We were starting to be a really big digital property. Certainly for ESPN we were, but the time that people were getting to our podcast was when games were tipping off.
Our podcast was becoming antiquated the second that we released it. I felt like if we started up and had our podcast hit to market around 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock in the afternoon.
Our podcast was becoming antiquated the second that we released it. I felt like if we started up and had our podcast hit to market around 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock in the afternoon.
We could still be a part of people's drive time traditions. And that's how we sold it to our South Florida audience, because that was also something that we were worried about. I could really maximize my digital audience. So for me, life balance, money, career opportunity, the fact that you have this Cadillac of a real estate space in radio, I thought we could do a lot with it.
We could still be a part of people's drive time traditions. And that's how we sold it to our South Florida audience, because that was also something that we were worried about. I could really maximize my digital audience. So for me, life balance, money, career opportunity, the fact that you have this Cadillac of a real estate space in radio, I thought we could do a lot with it.
But that life balance was a huge part of it, not just for that moment, but seeing where I wanted to take my life beyond that.
But that life balance was a huge part of it, not just for that moment, but seeing where I wanted to take my life beyond that.
Your favorite memory of Greg Cody on the air? I want to ask both of you. I'll go first to give you guys some time, and you may have the very same answer, but part of the cheat code with Greg Cody was the hard network out because it was a struggle getting him approved by ESPN. We were always going to win that battle. It never actually escalated to Hilda Dion status, but we had to convince them.
Your favorite memory of Greg Cody on the air? I want to ask both of you. I'll go first to give you guys some time, and you may have the very same answer, but part of the cheat code with Greg Cody was the hard network out because it was a struggle getting him approved by ESPN. We were always going to win that battle. It never actually escalated to Hilda Dion status, but we had to convince them.
And it's hard to convince ESPN radio folks that, hey, this guy is going to continue to walk into the hard network out and be cut off. It's going to sound super unprofessional, but- People don't realize.
And it's hard to convince ESPN radio folks that, hey, this guy is going to continue to walk into the hard network out and be cut off. It's going to sound super unprofessional, but- People don't realize.
It's a secret sauce aspect.
It's a secret sauce aspect.
But it helped get Greg over. And I'm like, look, from a radio perspective, you got people hanging on every word, knowing that this thing is going to happen at the very end. And 90% of the time, it's always going to deliver. So the hard network out really locked Greg Cody in with us as a co-host from there on out.
But it helped get Greg over. And I'm like, look, from a radio perspective, you got people hanging on every word, knowing that this thing is going to happen at the very end. And 90% of the time, it's always going to deliver. So the hard network out really locked Greg Cody in with us as a co-host from there on out.
Best directing we've ever done from a video perspective.
Best directing we've ever done from a video perspective.
Do you have a favorite moment?
Do you have a favorite moment?
Is Greg getting his own episode? Well, we've got to get to the others.
Is Greg getting his own episode? Well, we've got to get to the others.
I know, but it was going to be a 10-minute thing. And now I already feel like I can already feel Pablo complaining why he's only got eight minutes by comparison.
I know, but it was going to be a 10-minute thing. And now I already feel like I can already feel Pablo complaining why he's only got eight minutes by comparison.
I think you're trying to get out early and I'm not going to let you have that. We move on to Stan Van Gundy. Now, Stan Van Gundy, we didn't really know beyond your own personal relationship with him. Sugatsu and I, all we knew was this is a former head coach of the Miami Heat and Orlando Magic. When Hawk left, Stan Van Gundy was in between head coaching jobs and he brought us instant credibility.
I think you're trying to get out early and I'm not going to let you have that. We move on to Stan Van Gundy. Now, Stan Van Gundy, we didn't really know beyond your own personal relationship with him. Sugatsu and I, all we knew was this is a former head coach of the Miami Heat and Orlando Magic. When Hawk left, Stan Van Gundy was in between head coaching jobs and he brought us instant credibility.
Now, I've highlighted in a previous episode the extent of what a challenge it was to get him actually just on the air and for that to feel seamless. But why did you want Stan on this show? The timing worked out. I know you gave him your own equipment. We all kind of knew that Stan was going to be in demand so that this was kind of like a
Now, I've highlighted in a previous episode the extent of what a challenge it was to get him actually just on the air and for that to feel seamless. But why did you want Stan on this show? The timing worked out. I know you gave him your own equipment. We all kind of knew that Stan was going to be in demand so that this was kind of like a
Because you wouldn't take them. 790 didn't have a budget for a former. We didn't have a budget for anything.
Because you wouldn't take them. 790 didn't have a budget for a former. We didn't have a budget for anything.
That's great producing, dude. It's really good.
That's great producing, dude. It's really good.
So, guys, I know why you liked having Stan Van Gundy around. Oh, the guest.
So, guys, I know why you liked having Stan Van Gundy around. Oh, the guest.
And you know how much Dan loves talking to head coaches.
And you know how much Dan loves talking to head coaches.
Oh. Because Stan was there. Oh, delightful.
Oh. Because Stan was there. Oh, delightful.
He laughed. And it found a way to make head coach interviews appealing for Dan. It's kind of funny that Dan wanted a former head coach on As It Goes. When you consider all the baggage that he had associated with the head coach interview.
He laughed. And it found a way to make head coach interviews appealing for Dan. It's kind of funny that Dan wanted a former head coach on As It Goes. When you consider all the baggage that he had associated with the head coach interview.
We can work with really smart or really dumb. It's either between. There's no in between.
We can work with really smart or really dumb. It's either between. There's no in between.
Before we move on, what is your favorite memory of Sam Van Gundy on the air with us? I will go first and buy you guys some time. We did a segment called Sam Van Gundy Basketball Street Walker, which I don't think he was totally comfortable with. In which I made him a prostitute on the street that you would solicit for basketball opinions.
Before we move on, what is your favorite memory of Sam Van Gundy on the air with us? I will go first and buy you guys some time. We did a segment called Sam Van Gundy Basketball Street Walker, which I don't think he was totally comfortable with. In which I made him a prostitute on the street that you would solicit for basketball opinions.
This was a hot new twist on Stan's hot nuggets, and I was afraid to even run that idea by him. And I was shocked that he afforded me the one time he decided to do it, which I'm eternally grateful. And I kind of caught the hint to never do it again. But the fact that I got Stan Van Gundy to take part in Stan Van Gundy Basketball Streetwalker, I'm eternally grateful.
This was a hot new twist on Stan's hot nuggets, and I was afraid to even run that idea by him. And I was shocked that he afforded me the one time he decided to do it, which I'm eternally grateful. And I kind of caught the hint to never do it again. But the fact that I got Stan Van Gundy to take part in Stan Van Gundy Basketball Streetwalker, I'm eternally grateful.
Oh, another great segment that we did with Stan was ASMR with Stan Van Gundy. where he would just be chewing Pringles and candy and running his thumb across. We made it very sensual.
Oh, another great segment that we did with Stan was ASMR with Stan Van Gundy. where he would just be chewing Pringles and candy and running his thumb across. We made it very sensual.
Stan, I'm going to need you to reach to the bag of Pringles. Pop it open and chew them into the microphone.
Stan, I'm going to need you to reach to the bag of Pringles. Pop it open and chew them into the microphone.
Okay, just chew the Pringles into the microphone. He needs to have silent time. Okay. Stan, go ahead and grab a peanut M&M and make sure to chew it loudly into the microphone.
Okay, just chew the Pringles into the microphone. He needs to have silent time. Okay. Stan, go ahead and grab a peanut M&M and make sure to chew it loudly into the microphone.
Go ahead and grab a handful of Big League Chew and start chewing it loudly into the microphone.
Go ahead and grab a handful of Big League Chew and start chewing it loudly into the microphone.
Last but not least, go ahead and grab that toothbrush and just put the bristles under your thumb and rub it across a few times while you answer a basketball question. Yeah, he was great. All right, let's move on to Bomani Jones. Now, this was a dude that you had to learn how to work with on the air. You didn't have the pre-existing relationship. Well, Mike, we all did, though, right?
Last but not least, go ahead and grab that toothbrush and just put the bristles under your thumb and rub it across a few times while you answer a basketball question. Yeah, he was great. All right, let's move on to Bomani Jones. Now, this was a dude that you had to learn how to work with on the air. You didn't have the pre-existing relationship. Well, Mike, we all did, though, right?
In terms of being a guest contributor and just bombing in and giving you things that you'd never even considered, Bomani's as good at that as anybody I've ever encountered. Dan, you were the driving force behind Bomani Jones. I think this was a name that appeared on your radar via Jason Whitlock.
In terms of being a guest contributor and just bombing in and giving you things that you'd never even considered, Bomani's as good at that as anybody I've ever encountered. Dan, you were the driving force behind Bomani Jones. I think this was a name that appeared on your radar via Jason Whitlock.
I remember it being challenging in that we're not the type of show that Bomani would do. We have an entire career now of Bomani, and he does very good work. And his brand doesn't necessarily line up with our brand. It was tricky.
I remember it being challenging in that we're not the type of show that Bomani would do. We have an entire career now of Bomani, and he does very good work. And his brand doesn't necessarily line up with our brand. It was tricky.
And the co-host era of our show that began at 790 with those three names, Greg Cody, Sam Van Gundy, and Bomani Jones, that's how I knew I was starting to get good at this production stuff because I started getting up for these challenges. It was challenging.
And the co-host era of our show that began at 790 with those three names, Greg Cody, Sam Van Gundy, and Bomani Jones, that's how I knew I was starting to get good at this production stuff because I started getting up for these challenges. It was challenging.
they were all uniquely different yes bomani was the guy that had the most experience because he was doing radio locally but also most of his early appearances were also bombing in from a radio studio in raleigh and we're all getting to know each other and we don't actually get to interface which was difficult but interpersonally it would be challenging because the timing would be a little bit off managing bomani's feelings managing dan's feelings making sure that you were okay with hey
they were all uniquely different yes bomani was the guy that had the most experience because he was doing radio locally but also most of his early appearances were also bombing in from a radio studio in raleigh and we're all getting to know each other and we don't actually get to interface which was difficult but interpersonally it would be challenging because the timing would be a little bit off managing bomani's feelings managing dan's feelings making sure that you were okay with hey
Every other day, I'm clearly the second voice. I'm taking a back seat. How am I okay with this? How does my character change, Stu Gatz, with somebody else being the second voice? And it allowed for us to be really efficient with our funny because we'd ride on the fly. I appreciated that challenge, but Monty really tested me in ways that I hadn't been tested by another voice.
Every other day, I'm clearly the second voice. I'm taking a back seat. How am I okay with this? How does my character change, Stu Gatz, with somebody else being the second voice? And it allowed for us to be really efficient with our funny because we'd ride on the fly. I appreciated that challenge, but Monty really tested me in ways that I hadn't been tested by another voice.
And I was really appreciative of it.
And I was really appreciative of it.
And you represent the most ridiculous aspects of our show because at this point, we realize, hey, by comparison, Sugats is only going to get dumber as a character. Yes, thank you, Mike.
And you represent the most ridiculous aspects of our show because at this point, we realize, hey, by comparison, Sugats is only going to get dumber as a character. Yes, thank you, Mike.
And sometimes he would say some absurd shit in the middle of a profound Bomani thought. And he'd co-sign on it and give you buy-in right away. And it allowed us in one segment to be the smartest show and the dumbest show all at the same time.
And sometimes he would say some absurd shit in the middle of a profound Bomani thought. And he'd co-sign on it and give you buy-in right away. And it allowed us in one segment to be the smartest show and the dumbest show all at the same time.
And that's where the show really had some really charming moments. Yes. And it was always a great off-ramp to the serious stuff because we do the societal stuff more because Dan was craving that and he didn't always have those voices. I don't think we've ever had a voice that was as capable of it as Bomani.
And that's where the show really had some really charming moments. Yes. And it was always a great off-ramp to the serious stuff because we do the societal stuff more because Dan was craving that and he didn't always have those voices. I don't think we've ever had a voice that was as capable of it as Bomani.
And how did you take your radio experience and decide shortly thereafter, I'm going to partner up with this guy, even though I don't have to. The show's name is Dan Lebitard is Highly Questionable. This is so helpful on my radio side that I need it on the television side.
And how did you take your radio experience and decide shortly thereafter, I'm going to partner up with this guy, even though I don't have to. The show's name is Dan Lebitard is Highly Questionable. This is so helpful on my radio side that I need it on the television side.
My favorite memory of Bomani on the air was when he would let that sense of humor out, and it made it all the more funny when he'd let his guard down, buy in on some of the ridiculous stuff, introduce us to DJ Mike Hitman, and invite us into his world. The Stevie Ain't Blind stuff was so great from Bomani Jones. Stevie Wonder. ain't blind. Yeah, the CD ain't blind stuff is great. Is it?
My favorite memory of Bomani on the air was when he would let that sense of humor out, and it made it all the more funny when he'd let his guard down, buy in on some of the ridiculous stuff, introduce us to DJ Mike Hitman, and invite us into his world. The Stevie Ain't Blind stuff was so great from Bomani Jones. Stevie Wonder. ain't blind. Yeah, the CD ain't blind stuff is great. Is it?
I think so. Just saying his name, Stevie. I just omitted his last name.
I think so. Just saying his name, Stevie. I just omitted his last name.
Because he's not blind.
Because he's not blind.
Bomani Jones, as dynamic a talent as we've ever been around on the show, eternally grateful for his contributions. Briefly, let's touch on John Amici because he wasn't a regular guest co-host. This was more sporadic in part because he was across the pond. It was very difficult from a production standpoint, getting him connected. Sometimes he's vacationing and like in the woods. Great Britain.
Bomani Jones, as dynamic a talent as we've ever been around on the show, eternally grateful for his contributions. Briefly, let's touch on John Amici because he wasn't a regular guest co-host. This was more sporadic in part because he was across the pond. It was very difficult from a production standpoint, getting him connected. Sometimes he's vacationing and like in the woods. Great Britain.
It was tough to get him aboard, but he provided a lot of eloquence, a lot of humor, too, because he was very playful. He was a big nerd, too. And it allowed us to do what does the God say with John Amici, Sugat's mispronunciations. And that was a really great benchmark for our show.
It was tough to get him aboard, but he provided a lot of eloquence, a lot of humor, too, because he was very playful. He was a big nerd, too. And it allowed us to do what does the God say with John Amici, Sugat's mispronunciations. And that was a really great benchmark for our show.
It's a compliment. We still go to him occasionally when we just say we need a smart person on this topic. He's probably among the smartest we know. No, definitely among the smartest we know. Sarah Spain was a good example. Oh, she terrifies me.
It's a compliment. We still go to him occasionally when we just say we need a smart person on this topic. He's probably among the smartest we know. No, definitely among the smartest we know. Sarah Spain was a good example. Oh, she terrifies me.
Was a good example of what this show, during that golden era of the show, having some influence and power in that we would see people around the network that weren't getting utilized, that I thought were super talented, that weren't being properly utilized under the ESPN on And Sarah Spain immediately, she was a contributor when I was watching Numbers Never Lie. I thought she was so smart.
Was a good example of what this show, during that golden era of the show, having some influence and power in that we would see people around the network that weren't getting utilized, that I thought were super talented, that weren't being properly utilized under the ESPN on And Sarah Spain immediately, she was a contributor when I was watching Numbers Never Lie. I thought she was so smart.
I very clearly wanted to also have a woman because I've gone through a lot of names right now, no women. And I wanted to make sure that women's sports was starting to rise to prominence. And we had some blind spots and we were talking about all these things that was happening in sports where women were victims and we were just guys weighing in. And it was a huge blind spot for our show.
I very clearly wanted to also have a woman because I've gone through a lot of names right now, no women. And I wanted to make sure that women's sports was starting to rise to prominence. And we had some blind spots and we were talking about all these things that was happening in sports where women were victims and we were just guys weighing in. And it was a huge blind spot for our show.
So I saw Sarah Spain and I thought she was super sharp. And then I was really stunned to learn, oh, she's an update anchor on ESPN Radio Chicago. I'm like, what? I want to get her in for an entire show. Let's fly her down. So Amanda Gifford allowed me to fly Sarah Spain down. And immediately I was stunned by how she was the alpha in the room. This was also a challenge because we had no idea.
So I saw Sarah Spain and I thought she was super sharp. And then I was really stunned to learn, oh, she's an update anchor on ESPN Radio Chicago. I'm like, what? I want to get her in for an entire show. Let's fly her down. So Amanda Gifford allowed me to fly Sarah Spain down. And immediately I was stunned by how she was the alpha in the room. This was also a challenge because we had no idea.
Even Bomani, he would still kind of defer to this is Dan's show. And he would defer to the dynamic. Sarah shows up. Sarah is going to be the alpha in that room. She was pounding me. First episode. She was a bully. I think she would say in retrospect, she was probably too hard on everybody. But you have to understand her climb. Look, she was super talented. Sarah Spain was a massive talent.
Even Bomani, he would still kind of defer to this is Dan's show. And he would defer to the dynamic. Sarah shows up. Sarah is going to be the alpha in that room. She was pounding me. First episode. She was a bully. I think she would say in retrospect, she was probably too hard on everybody. But you have to understand her climb. Look, she was super talented. Sarah Spain was a massive talent.
And she was, this is sexist in my opinion, doing an update anchor role at ESPN Chicago when she was capable of so much.
And she was, this is sexist in my opinion, doing an update anchor role at ESPN Chicago when she was capable of so much.
She came in with a bit of a callous already because the entire medium had been cruel to her.
She came in with a bit of a callous already because the entire medium had been cruel to her.
She knows she's damn good. Yes, she is. And she's had to fight up until that point for all of her opportunities that I think it almost caught her by surprise. Like, no, no, no. We're here to lift you up. We're not against you. You don't have to be tough with us. We're here to get the most out of you and put you in the best possible light. I think she then picked up on that.
She knows she's damn good. Yes, she is. And she's had to fight up until that point for all of her opportunities that I think it almost caught her by surprise. Like, no, no, no. We're here to lift you up. We're not against you. You don't have to be tough with us. We're here to get the most out of you and put you in the best possible light. I think she then picked up on that.
And then we got to really see her really soar within our show because she felt comfortable enough to do things like create a freestyle rap. And she really shined. She let her guard down.
And then we got to really see her really soar within our show because she felt comfortable enough to do things like create a freestyle rap. And she really shined. She let her guard down.
And it was all born out of, as you probably learned if you've listened to the previous episode, this was all Dan. Dan really was a driving force behind getting guest co-hosts. And that concept in on our show is kind of born from Hawk Levin. And Hawk was the third voice on our show. When he left, I wasn't quite there yet. Dan didn't trust me to be that third voice.
And it was all born out of, as you probably learned if you've listened to the previous episode, this was all Dan. Dan really was a driving force behind getting guest co-hosts. And that concept in on our show is kind of born from Hawk Levin. And Hawk was the third voice on our show. When he left, I wasn't quite there yet. Dan didn't trust me to be that third voice.
She let her guard down and she was such a huge deal for this show because there were challenges. We've never had a woman on our show before. She's the commish.
She let her guard down and she was such a huge deal for this show because there were challenges. We've never had a woman on our show before. She's the commish.
And we're starting to realize that our show is starting to be a bit of a launch pad with Bomani and with Sarah. Once Sarah starts routinely getting featured on our show, she kind of ceases being an update anchor in Chicago and starts getting her own jobs as a host of a show. She gets more appearances on Around the Horn and her career starts to ascend. We certainly got in at the right time. Yeah.
And we're starting to realize that our show is starting to be a bit of a launch pad with Bomani and with Sarah. Once Sarah starts routinely getting featured on our show, she kind of ceases being an update anchor in Chicago and starts getting her own jobs as a host of a show. She gets more appearances on Around the Horn and her career starts to ascend. We certainly got in at the right time. Yeah.
But he knew the value in it. And we identified Greg Cody, Stan Van Gundy, Dan's friend Barry. We were trying...
But he knew the value in it. And we identified Greg Cody, Stan Van Gundy, Dan's friend Barry. We were trying...
But we see that, hey, there's a connection here. There's more opportunities being presented because we're giving a platform for these people to shine. So I was very proud of that. Amin El-Hassan fits in that mold. Amin El-Hassan came on my radar through talking to George Sedano, who was an occasional contributor. He said that Amin would be so great on your show. This guy is really funny.
But we see that, hey, there's a connection here. There's more opportunities being presented because we're giving a platform for these people to shine. So I was very proud of that. Amin El-Hassan fits in that mold. Amin El-Hassan came on my radar through talking to George Sedano, who was an occasional contributor. He said that Amin would be so great on your show. This guy is really funny.
He's underutilized at ESPN, which he was at the time, just basically doing Numbers Never Live and SportsCenter and ESPN newspaper. And Sedano gave enough of a cosign that I wanted to get him in and try him out. And I remember the first day on the show, you thought he worked at the Clevelander.
He's underutilized at ESPN, which he was at the time, just basically doing Numbers Never Live and SportsCenter and ESPN newspaper. And Sedano gave enough of a cosign that I wanted to get him in and try him out. And I remember the first day on the show, you thought he worked at the Clevelander.
Yeah, we needed the nutritional value because, look, we're a bunch of goofs and the audience is hot on our tails knowing that we actually don't know shit about sports. Shit. So we need all the credibility that we can get. And exchange as a barter will also give you plenty of avenues to be ridiculous. And another example of a career starts to ascend.
Yeah, we needed the nutritional value because, look, we're a bunch of goofs and the audience is hot on our tails knowing that we actually don't know shit about sports. Shit. So we need all the credibility that we can get. And exchange as a barter will also give you plenty of avenues to be ridiculous. And another example of a career starts to ascend.
People start seeing him on our show and he starts doing more Sports Nation stuff. He starts being put on TV in more of a lighthearted light and he got out of it what he wanted to. Incredibly loyal to us. Fucked with us from day one. Was a huge fan of our show and didn't need the show explicitly.
People start seeing him on our show and he starts doing more Sports Nation stuff. He starts being put on TV in more of a lighthearted light and he got out of it what he wanted to. Incredibly loyal to us. Fucked with us from day one. Was a huge fan of our show and didn't need the show explicitly.
explained to him when he walked in the door, which was a bit of a change of pace from all the previous co-hosts. Even Sarah, we had to kind of explain, even though she was a little bit more familiar. Amin was a fan. He was a chronic. He would listen to us daily. So it was actually, whoa, hugely refreshing. I don't have to explain any of the jokes. The guy has pretty good timing.
explained to him when he walked in the door, which was a bit of a change of pace from all the previous co-hosts. Even Sarah, we had to kind of explain, even though she was a little bit more familiar. Amin was a fan. He was a chronic. He would listen to us daily. So it was actually, whoa, hugely refreshing. I don't have to explain any of the jokes. The guy has pretty good timing.
He knows when to lay out. He knows when Stugatz is cooking on something. And that was really welcome and made me want to get more of it.
He knows when to lay out. He knows when Stugatz is cooking on something. And that was really welcome and made me want to get more of it.
No one more ride or die with us in that co-host table than Amin. And that's not a slight on anybody else. Everybody else had other things going on. Greg Cody had no choice but to be ride or die with us.
No one more ride or die with us in that co-host table than Amin. And that's not a slight on anybody else. Everybody else had other things going on. Greg Cody had no choice but to be ride or die with us.
The loyalty doesn't have to end in my death. How about I'm right and I'll give you guys six years to figure it out. We welcome that, too. But Amin, I'm sure, really surprised you, and I'm sure you found it hugely flattering when you felt pretty vulnerable.
The loyalty doesn't have to end in my death. How about I'm right and I'll give you guys six years to figure it out. We welcome that, too. But Amin, I'm sure, really surprised you, and I'm sure you found it hugely flattering when you felt pretty vulnerable.
When we were leaving ESPN and you decided to build this company with John Skipper, Amin was one of the first people you heard from saying, I'm with you no matter what?
When we were leaving ESPN and you decided to build this company with John Skipper, Amin was one of the first people you heard from saying, I'm with you no matter what?
Yeah. He was great. I'm so blown away by his... He's not dead. I'm so blown away by his loyalty to us. And he's still a key contributor on our show. And he's carved out quite the interesting character for himself as well. Love Amin Alhassan.
Yeah. He was great. I'm so blown away by his... He's not dead. I'm so blown away by his loyalty to us. And he's still a key contributor on our show. And he's carved out quite the interesting character for himself as well. Love Amin Alhassan.
And I can't really fully articulate well enough how much that meant in a pretty vulnerable time for us, for him to leave everything behind and be like, I'm with you guys no matter what. Pablo, he was more like, I'm right or wait a couple of years.
And I can't really fully articulate well enough how much that meant in a pretty vulnerable time for us, for him to leave everything behind and be like, I'm with you guys no matter what. Pablo, he was more like, I'm right or wait a couple of years.
I'm right or let me wait a couple of years and see if this works.
I'm right or let me wait a couple of years and see if this works.
He knew that it would be difficult. He knew that it would be very different. He knew that he wouldn't have the same platform and he knew that he wanted to be with us. So immense love for Mina Elhassan. I'll take your direction there. Let's talk about Mina Kimes. Mina Kimes was someone that we both had identified.
He knew that it would be difficult. He knew that it would be very different. He knew that he wouldn't have the same platform and he knew that he wanted to be with us. So immense love for Mina Elhassan. I'll take your direction there. Let's talk about Mina Kimes. Mina Kimes was someone that we both had identified.
Dan, I think you deserve a little bit more credit than you afford yourself here on Mina because I had reviewed the tape and my ultimate takeaway was I I really want to get Mina in here. I really do. I fear that she's like too green for this and maybe she needs a few more months, some more exposure on our show. Maybe we have a few more guest hits.
Dan, I think you deserve a little bit more credit than you afford yourself here on Mina because I had reviewed the tape and my ultimate takeaway was I I really want to get Mina in here. I really do. I fear that she's like too green for this and maybe she needs a few more months, some more exposure on our show. Maybe we have a few more guest hits.
And I was in West Palm Beach and we spoke like early Sunday morning. And you're like, you sure about Mina? Because I think we can make that work. I'm like, well, I mean, there's a reason why you're circling back on me. Because I kind of felt like we decided let's table that for a little bit. And you circled back on it and made me think about all the things in different prism.
And I was in West Palm Beach and we spoke like early Sunday morning. And you're like, you sure about Mina? Because I think we can make that work. I'm like, well, I mean, there's a reason why you're circling back on me. Because I kind of felt like we decided let's table that for a little bit. And you circled back on it and made me think about all the things in different prism.
And I guess you caught me at the right time. I was like, you know what? F it. We'd had pretty good luck getting to know people on the air. Let's ride. Let's see how this goes. And my concerns were valid, incredibly green. But I wasn't that hip to how much of that would be an asset to us, how charming that would be, how endearing that would be to an audience.
And I guess you caught me at the right time. I was like, you know what? F it. We'd had pretty good luck getting to know people on the air. Let's ride. Let's see how this goes. And my concerns were valid, incredibly green. But I wasn't that hip to how much of that would be an asset to us, how charming that would be, how endearing that would be to an audience.
And then when she sat in here, like, look, I knew Mina Kimes was smart. I had been a fan, but I had no idea how smart and how easily she could make her intelligence accessible to the listener. She was smart without making people feel stupid. And that's a very special quality because I'd line her intelligence up against anybody, including John Amici's on our show.
And then when she sat in here, like, look, I knew Mina Kimes was smart. I had been a fan, but I had no idea how smart and how easily she could make her intelligence accessible to the listener. She was smart without making people feel stupid. And that's a very special quality because I'd line her intelligence up against anybody, including John Amici's on our show.
But out of everybody, Pablo include Pablo is very bad at this because he makes people feel dumb. I'm bad at it. Yeah. Dan's bad at it. Terrible. No one's been better in media than Mina at this one specific.
But out of everybody, Pablo include Pablo is very bad at this because he makes people feel dumb. I'm bad at it. Yeah. Dan's bad at it. Terrible. No one's been better in media than Mina at this one specific.
On the 17th time, no less. Mina bought in from day one. Mina loved the sandbox, wanted to have more fun. She wasn't eager in ways that you would probably put a negative connotation on. She wasn't ever really about advancing her career. Never came off that way. Her career advanced naturally because she was just so good. She kept growing and growing. She got better with every appearance.
On the 17th time, no less. Mina bought in from day one. Mina loved the sandbox, wanted to have more fun. She wasn't eager in ways that you would probably put a negative connotation on. She wasn't ever really about advancing her career. Never came off that way. Her career advanced naturally because she was just so good. She kept growing and growing. She got better with every appearance.
She was still always going to be green, but she also was definitely aware that that could be an asset to her because it helped her relate to the audience.
She was still always going to be green, but she also was definitely aware that that could be an asset to her because it helped her relate to the audience.
Keep in mind, she wasn't like the absolute Navy SEAL, as Dan would describe it, when it came to football.
Keep in mind, she wasn't like the absolute Navy SEAL, as Dan would describe it, when it came to football.
Just yet. She was learning how to do that stuff. And we made really good use of her. And her laugh was infectious. She wanted to participate in things like Roy's Realm. She was down to dress up. She was down for anything. She was down to be the punchline. I love Mina Kimes. She wanted a zip line.
Just yet. She was learning how to do that stuff. And we made really good use of her. And her laugh was infectious. She wanted to participate in things like Roy's Realm. She was down to dress up. She was down for anything. She was down to be the punchline. I love Mina Kimes. She wanted a zip line.
Well, at first it was because she sounded awful. Like, it was terrible. We need this to work on the radio. So we had to rig something and I believe Mina's calling us right now with the phone just taped to her bra. Okay, is that...
Well, at first it was because she sounded awful. Like, it was terrible. We need this to work on the radio. So we had to rig something and I believe Mina's calling us right now with the phone just taped to her bra. Okay, is that...
I'm her biggest fan. And I am so grateful for that phone call that Dan gave. gave me that one Sunday morning that gave me a pause and made me reevaluate because we brought her in really early in her career and watching her career now where she's on ESPN football coverage, Monday Night Football, now a part of Netflix. She jumped with us once we started a network.
I'm her biggest fan. And I am so grateful for that phone call that Dan gave. gave me that one Sunday morning that gave me a pause and made me reevaluate because we brought her in really early in her career and watching her career now where she's on ESPN football coverage, Monday Night Football, now a part of Netflix. She jumped with us once we started a network.
Mina Kimes' football podcast was a linchpin of the Levitard and Friends network that we built over at ESPN. I'm so eternally grateful for her friendship. As decent a person as I've ever met, as caring and loving and authentic as a person as I've ever met, I'm the biggest Mina Kimes guy there is.
Mina Kimes' football podcast was a linchpin of the Levitard and Friends network that we built over at ESPN. I'm so eternally grateful for her friendship. As decent a person as I've ever met, as caring and loving and authentic as a person as I've ever met, I'm the biggest Mina Kimes guy there is.
No doubt. If anything, like, look, we got additional eyes on her and people realize right away she had all the talent in the world. I am happy and proud of our association with her, especially because conveniently, like we were tied to her early in her career, but she earned everything that she got.
No doubt. If anything, like, look, we got additional eyes on her and people realize right away she had all the talent in the world. I am happy and proud of our association with her, especially because conveniently, like we were tied to her early in her career, but she earned everything that she got.
Look, she also really ascended at a time where being affiliated with us wasn't beneficial to her career. Even since then, getting her still to appear on our show, these became negotiations. These became battles. And Mina would pound the table for us. And in many respects, comes full circle. She's given us more now than we gave her back then.
Look, she also really ascended at a time where being affiliated with us wasn't beneficial to her career. Even since then, getting her still to appear on our show, these became negotiations. These became battles. And Mina would pound the table for us. And in many respects, comes full circle. She's given us more now than we gave her back then.
Yeah, I love Mina Kimes. And I'm so grateful that even though we've tried to nuke it at every turn unknowingly, that she's still allowed to appear on our show. And she's only going to grow from here, too. She's going to be one of the biggest stars. She's already one of the biggest stars in the industry.
Yeah, I love Mina Kimes. And I'm so grateful that even though we've tried to nuke it at every turn unknowingly, that she's still allowed to appear on our show. And she's only going to grow from here, too. She's going to be one of the biggest stars. She's already one of the biggest stars in the industry.
Briefly, I want to touch on Marty Smith, who was a co-host for a brief moment in time, and Izzy Gutierrez, who still slides into the studio with us. Marty was another guy that I saw who wanted to do more at ESPN, wasn't doing enough, wanted to be around fun things. His joy was infectious, eminently likable, one of the most liked members around our show.
Briefly, I want to touch on Marty Smith, who was a co-host for a brief moment in time, and Izzy Gutierrez, who still slides into the studio with us. Marty was another guy that I saw who wanted to do more at ESPN, wasn't doing enough, wanted to be around fun things. His joy was infectious, eminently likable, one of the most liked members around our show.
Also came around our show around 2017, when Miami was actually relevant as an outlier in the 21st century, and he was down here all
Also came around our show around 2017, when Miami was actually relevant as an outlier in the 21st century, and he was down here all
And you can't mention Marty without his production partner, Jonathan Wiley, who would often hit me up. Hey, we're going to be in Beijing with Cristiano Ronaldo. Can we do something? I'm like, I have no idea, but I'm going to try like hell. And I will put you in touch with someone that knows what you're talking about.
And you can't mention Marty without his production partner, Jonathan Wiley, who would often hit me up. Hey, we're going to be in Beijing with Cristiano Ronaldo. Can we do something? I'm like, I have no idea, but I'm going to try like hell. And I will put you in touch with someone that knows what you're talking about.
But dude, these guys were starved for people to just say yes. Yes. Because they were way more ambitious and creative than I could have been. You want to talk about a production talent super tandem? Wiley and Marty Smith have this crazy chemistry and They just like feed off of each other's ambition. Great guys. One last note on Marty.
But dude, these guys were starved for people to just say yes. Yes. Because they were way more ambitious and creative than I could have been. You want to talk about a production talent super tandem? Wiley and Marty Smith have this crazy chemistry and They just like feed off of each other's ambition. Great guys. One last note on Marty.
He was the first person that really let it resonate with me that, oh, we're doing really good, fun work that everybody wants to be a part of. Because here's this guy that I think is, by comparison, a wild man for ESPN. And he sees our show as an opportunity. And that was hugely flattering. Izzy Gutierrez is a guy whose loyalty and friendship I've really come to value.
He was the first person that really let it resonate with me that, oh, we're doing really good, fun work that everybody wants to be a part of. Because here's this guy that I think is, by comparison, a wild man for ESPN. And he sees our show as an opportunity. And that was hugely flattering. Izzy Gutierrez is a guy whose loyalty and friendship I've really come to value.
He's been with us on the air in some form or fashion for several years, but not that consistent. But I think what Izzy has given to us as a gift is his love, his loyalty.
He's been with us on the air in some form or fashion for several years, but not that consistent. But I think what Izzy has given to us as a gift is his love, his loyalty.
And his ability to support pretty much any road we go down. And I really value his honest feedback, too. I go to him for feedback probably more than anybody else, whether he knows it or not, because I really, truly value his opinion. Because he's been with us for so long, and he's seen all the twists and turns we've taken.
And his ability to support pretty much any road we go down. And I really value his honest feedback, too. I go to him for feedback probably more than anybody else, whether he knows it or not, because I really, truly value his opinion. Because he's been with us for so long, and he's seen all the twists and turns we've taken.
Yeah, he's a five-tool player, and that's kind of how we use him. But I think what he probably doesn't realize is we use him for the vibes of feedback. He's just as genuine a person as they come. I think it's in Pablo Torre's contract now that we have to talk about him last. So we'll get to Dominique Foxworth beforehand. Oh, really? Dominique Foxworth, I think he was put on my radar.
Yeah, he's a five-tool player, and that's kind of how we use him. But I think what he probably doesn't realize is we use him for the vibes of feedback. He's just as genuine a person as they come. I think it's in Pablo Torre's contract now that we have to talk about him last. So we'll get to Dominique Foxworth beforehand. Oh, really? Dominique Foxworth, I think he was put on my radar.
And I'd known him to be a fan of the show. I certainly knew him from his playing days. He was always on Twitter. He would leave comments and... He was very clearly a fan. Occasionally he sent me a message saying what a big fan he was of ours. But I think Mina was like, you guys have to talk to Dominique. He loves your guys' show so much. And I was eager for that opportunity.
And I'd known him to be a fan of the show. I certainly knew him from his playing days. He was always on Twitter. He would leave comments and... He was very clearly a fan. Occasionally he sent me a message saying what a big fan he was of ours. But I think Mina was like, you guys have to talk to Dominique. He loves your guys' show so much. And I was eager for that opportunity.
And he fit like a glove pretty much day one.
And he fit like a glove pretty much day one.
It fills my heart with love to know that he could literally be doing anything with his time. And he finds so much joy in being around Dan and Stu in the shipping container. And he still is a fan of our show. Chronic listens every day. How do you have the time? Why do you still care? Why do we still mean so much?
It fills my heart with love to know that he could literally be doing anything with his time. And he finds so much joy in being around Dan and Stu in the shipping container. And he still is a fan of our show. Chronic listens every day. How do you have the time? Why do you still care? Why do we still mean so much?
I couldn't believe it. I'm like, is this real or is this a fake?
I couldn't believe it. I'm like, is this real or is this a fake?
But the pig's feet. Whale costume?
But the pig's feet. Whale costume?
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We're going to get into it when I do an oral history on the oral history because I've had to say it a couple of times. Yes. But let's begin with like the first foray into a coast, the most natural one. We had Greg Cody as a day one guest and he was a weekly feature on our show. Pretty natural that we'd try him out. What was your motivation in getting Greg around?
We're going to get into it when I do an oral history on the oral history because I've had to say it a couple of times. Yes. But let's begin with like the first foray into a coast, the most natural one. We had Greg Cody as a day one guest and he was a weekly feature on our show. Pretty natural that we'd try him out. What was your motivation in getting Greg around?
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Was it any more complicated than he was on our show and he made you laugh and he made you happy and this was at a time where you wanted that comfort level?
Was it any more complicated than he was on our show and he made you laugh and he made you happy and this was at a time where you wanted that comfort level?
That's what you can do. Take the future flight so you can complain about that one and then get another future flight.
That's what you can do. Take the future flight so you can complain about that one and then get another future flight.
And so I found someone that somehow respected it less than you did.
And so I found someone that somehow respected it less than you did.
the beginning yeah yeah well mina and i didn't say that mina and greg have found a way to turn them being relatively green at this and in some cases not relatively super green at this into an asset into a charming little asset that made the audience root for them more now greg has never really been he's going to take exception to this he's great at this as an ensemble character
the beginning yeah yeah well mina and i didn't say that mina and greg have found a way to turn them being relatively green at this and in some cases not relatively super green at this into an asset into a charming little asset that made the audience root for them more now greg has never really been he's going to take exception to this he's great at this as an ensemble character
Congratulations means you have won. Aha.
Congratulations means you have won. Aha.
How very spectral of you.
How very spectral of you.
Because I told you I was going to give you one.
Because I told you I was going to give you one.
He's wonderful, super funny, thoughtful, smart. In terms of the executing of a radio show and being a radio talent, taking direction, knowing to hit his marks. Has learned nothing. Keenly aware. No, he's somehow gotten worse. He's not, but that's part of the charm.
He's wonderful, super funny, thoughtful, smart. In terms of the executing of a radio show and being a radio talent, taking direction, knowing to hit his marks. Has learned nothing. Keenly aware. No, he's somehow gotten worse. He's not, but that's part of the charm.
But you can imagine, like, when you consider his shtick, and our legacy listeners, the people listening to this, know what his shtick is, and it's a great default. Usually, if we wanted... Okay, I got nothing to talk about. Let me just talk about LeBron James and the Miami Heat because that's easy.
But you can imagine, like, when you consider his shtick, and our legacy listeners, the people listening to this, know what his shtick is, and it's a great default. Usually, if we wanted... Okay, I got nothing to talk about. Let me just talk about LeBron James and the Miami Heat because that's easy.
I know they're your defaults actually became when we brought in all these voices, their idiosyncrasies, and no one was more idiosyncratic than Greg Cody. So it had a lot of great, wonderful qualities to it. But if you just dropped Greg Cody in a like a one time sample, which we were doing early on. you'd say, what the hell is this? This guy's bad.
I know they're your defaults actually became when we brought in all these voices, their idiosyncrasies, and no one was more idiosyncratic than Greg Cody. So it had a lot of great, wonderful qualities to it. But if you just dropped Greg Cody in a like a one time sample, which we were doing early on. you'd say, what the hell is this? This guy's bad.
I'm going to say something and I just want you to tell me how it makes you feel. Just do it.
I'm going to say something and I just want you to tell me how it makes you feel. Just do it.
If you were a program director, why are we putting this guy on the air?
If you were a program director, why are we putting this guy on the air?
Oh, what? So now winning is a punishment? Okay, cool. But I'm just happy we finally have a champion who is happy to take this trophy. Go nuts, Izzy. Make it your own.
Oh, what? So now winning is a punishment? Okay, cool. But I'm just happy we finally have a champion who is happy to take this trophy. Go nuts, Izzy. Make it your own.
Add some prestige to it. Also, good luck getting out of the studio and that into your car.
Add some prestige to it. Also, good luck getting out of the studio and that into your car.
I have to remind myself that I'm actually wearing pants because my 2018-ass shorts are so thin. Doc, stand up.
I have to remind myself that I'm actually wearing pants because my 2018-ass shorts are so thin. Doc, stand up.
Look at those thin-ass shorts.
Look at those thin-ass shorts.
Billy, you got modern day shorts, right?
Billy, you got modern day shorts, right?
He's got amphibious shorts. You're shorts. You're 90s-ass shorts.
He's got amphibious shorts. You're shorts. You're 90s-ass shorts.
There is a problem. Well, no one's wearing cargo shorts, but I believe the modern-day nanotechnology shorts can, in fact, make the evolution to cargo shorts because everyone looks at these and says, there's no way I can make a cargo short out of this material. It's so lightweight. Everything that goes in the pockets would be just so baggy and look so weird.
There is a problem. Well, no one's wearing cargo shorts, but I believe the modern-day nanotechnology shorts can, in fact, make the evolution to cargo shorts because everyone looks at these and says, there's no way I can make a cargo short out of this material. It's so lightweight. Everything that goes in the pockets would be just so baggy and look so weird.
No one finishes ahead of the king. No one.
No one finishes ahead of the king. No one.
Yes, so shall it be written.
Yes, so shall it be written.
perchance might i visit the castle i've been in this class florist for quite some time no wow so shall it be written so shall it be done just for a few minutes i shall i get the witch shall i fetch the witch sure fetching the witch hey the witch is here hey witch
perchance might i visit the castle i've been in this class florist for quite some time no wow so shall it be written so shall it be done just for a few minutes i shall i get the witch shall i fetch the witch sure fetching the witch hey the witch is here hey witch
Your friendship with Greg was sweet. It gave our show a bit more charm, and our show could certainly still do for more of that. From a producer's perspective, initially, I really struggled trying to see the fit in having Greg outside of the obvious, which was Dan's general comfort level, which was always my North Star when it came to these things.
Your friendship with Greg was sweet. It gave our show a bit more charm, and our show could certainly still do for more of that. From a producer's perspective, initially, I really struggled trying to see the fit in having Greg outside of the obvious, which was Dan's general comfort level, which was always my North Star when it came to these things.
But it took a while for me to figure out, this is going to sound terrible, truly the extent of how bad Greg Cody was. To the point that like that eventually became my default. Oh no, it works because he's bad. Let me just accentuate. Let me somehow turn this huge weakness into a strength. And I think even for Dan on the air hosting, that took a while too.
But it took a while for me to figure out, this is going to sound terrible, truly the extent of how bad Greg Cody was. To the point that like that eventually became my default. Oh no, it works because he's bad. Let me just accentuate. Let me somehow turn this huge weakness into a strength. And I think even for Dan on the air hosting, that took a while too.
And he walks through the door of the tiny room with a guitar.
And he walks through the door of the tiny room with a guitar.
For an entire show, like how do we make you being bad the joke? That comes over time. So I remember like the first like 13 appearances being a real struggle. We even took a couple of weeks off because I didn't necessarily think it was a fit. Dana and I had some discussion as to whether or not we'd continue it.
For an entire show, like how do we make you being bad the joke? That comes over time. So I remember like the first like 13 appearances being a real struggle. We even took a couple of weeks off because I didn't necessarily think it was a fit. Dana and I had some discussion as to whether or not we'd continue it.
And certainly once we went to ESPN, how do we bring this Miami Herald writer along with us? It was a struggle, I thought.
And certainly once we went to ESPN, how do we bring this Miami Herald writer along with us? It was a struggle, I thought.
Hey, howdy, listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right.
Hey, howdy, listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right.
Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and great tasting light beer.
Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and great tasting light beer.
tastes like miller time you know as the football games get bigger everybody's talking about hosting parties it's always difficult everyone's got an opinion why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of miller lights and make everybody happy you could be on opposite sides of the big game but you still know that you are brought together by miller time Miller Lite is a great unifier.
tastes like miller time you know as the football games get bigger everybody's talking about hosting parties it's always difficult everyone's got an opinion why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of miller lights and make everybody happy you could be on opposite sides of the big game but you still know that you are brought together by miller time Miller Lite is a great unifier.
Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other Lite beers. The original Lite beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan. Find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly.
Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other Lite beers. The original Lite beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan. Find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly.
Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
It was a struggle from a production standpoint, too, because he started with us. Keep in mind, Greg's been with us in every incarnation of the show. Greg's been there either as a guest or as a co-host. He's been in every studio that we've ever created content. And that's key because the first studio that we were creating content out of when we were trying to get Greg as a regular co-host.
It was a struggle from a production standpoint, too, because he started with us. Keep in mind, Greg's been with us in every incarnation of the show. Greg's been there either as a guest or as a co-host. He's been in every studio that we've ever created content. And that's key because the first studio that we were creating content out of when we were trying to get Greg as a regular co-host.
You remember the studio set up? I was looking at you directly in your eyes. Yeah, it was weird. I had a profile of Sugat's and I was looking at the back of Greg's head. Yes. This dude doesn't know where he is in terms of clocks and stage direction. This is a young Greg Cody. When I'm looking straight at him. So imagine how oblivious Greg Cody is when he's just locked in on you.
You remember the studio set up? I was looking at you directly in your eyes. Yeah, it was weird. I had a profile of Sugat's and I was looking at the back of Greg's head. Yes. This dude doesn't know where he is in terms of clocks and stage direction. This is a young Greg Cody. When I'm looking straight at him. So imagine how oblivious Greg Cody is when he's just locked in on you.
He's got no respect for the clock. No idea what we're doing. No idea what voices are in his head. He can't even see where they're coming from.
He's got no respect for the clock. No idea what we're doing. No idea what voices are in his head. He can't even see where they're coming from.
My name is Tom Ryan. I am a, I guess I would refer to myself now as a serial entrepreneur. Did a lot of really cool project work for some of the biggest food companies, restaurant companies in the world.
My name is Tom Ryan. I am a, I guess I would refer to myself now as a serial entrepreneur. Did a lot of really cool project work for some of the biggest food companies, restaurant companies in the world.
If you wanted to make a pizza more valuable, there were two ways to do it. Put more cheese on it or charge less for it. And charging less for it's not a good business model. But we never really thought about the architecture. And so, Stuffed Crust Pizza was a novel idea. Nobody had ever done it before. That was a real innovation for the marketplace.
If you wanted to make a pizza more valuable, there were two ways to do it. Put more cheese on it or charge less for it. And charging less for it's not a good business model. But we never really thought about the architecture. And so, Stuffed Crust Pizza was a novel idea. Nobody had ever done it before. That was a real innovation for the marketplace.
And so the simple notion was to put cheese, which is the value driver of pizza, the most iconic part of pizza value into the least valued part of the pizza, which is the crust.
And so the simple notion was to put cheese, which is the value driver of pizza, the most iconic part of pizza value into the least valued part of the pizza, which is the crust.
Yes. Yes. I'll never forget, I was sitting in the room, first focus group, everybody's enjoying it, everybody's thinking it's really cool. Some guy, one of the panelists looked into the mirror, he knew we were back there, and just looked right into the mirror and said, my dog's gonna hate you.
Yes. Yes. I'll never forget, I was sitting in the room, first focus group, everybody's enjoying it, everybody's thinking it's really cool. Some guy, one of the panelists looked into the mirror, he knew we were back there, and just looked right into the mirror and said, my dog's gonna hate you.
And the reason for that, back in the day, you know, people refer to that part of the pizza as the pizza bones. They eat the good stuff, you know, the sauce and the toppings, and then maybe some of the crust. And this is for everybody's pizza. And then they would toss the crust to their dog. And all of a sudden, we took that away from people because we had put so much value into the crust.
And the reason for that, back in the day, you know, people refer to that part of the pizza as the pizza bones. They eat the good stuff, you know, the sauce and the toppings, and then maybe some of the crust. And this is for everybody's pizza. And then they would toss the crust to their dog. And all of a sudden, we took that away from people because we had put so much value into the crust.
And so it took us a year and a half to get it right, to get it integrated, to get it to work at store level, to get the marketing done, to get the positioning done, to get it tested. We started probably a year and a half to almost two years before April 1st of 1994, which was our launch date. And launched it on April 1st, never looked back. It was huge for us.
And so it took us a year and a half to get it right, to get it integrated, to get it to work at store level, to get the marketing done, to get the positioning done, to get it tested. We started probably a year and a half to almost two years before April 1st of 1994, which was our launch date. And launched it on April 1st, never looked back. It was huge for us.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hey, man, you've got to believe in yourself.
Hey, man, you've got to believe in yourself.
I wouldn't say always. When I was in New England – We definitely weren't told or taught to talk a lot or any at all. You know, that just was the policy. Yeah. But I've always been a natural storyteller, like in the locker room and whatnot. And I always loved the game and studied the game a lot. And when I left New England and went to the Tennessee Titans, they really paid me in free agency.
I wouldn't say always. When I was in New England – We definitely weren't told or taught to talk a lot or any at all. You know, that just was the policy. Yeah. But I've always been a natural storyteller, like in the locker room and whatnot. And I always loved the game and studied the game a lot. And when I left New England and went to the Tennessee Titans, they really paid me in free agency.
My last game in New England was a 20-3 Super Bowl. you know, comeback victory. So when I went to Tennessean for agency, you know, they were paying me for that Super Bowl pedigree and that experience and be the leader in the locker room and, like, tell us what it takes type of guy. And you're like, okay, like, so I had to become more vocal, like, right away. Had to be a leader, had to do, like,
My last game in New England was a 20-3 Super Bowl. you know, comeback victory. So when I went to Tennessean for agency, you know, they were paying me for that Super Bowl pedigree and that experience and be the leader in the locker room and, like, tell us what it takes type of guy. And you're like, okay, like, so I had to become more vocal, like, right away. Had to be a leader, had to do, like,
Pre-game speeches, post-game speeches. So I get interviewed. I had a radio show. You know, I took over Delaney Walker's radio show. So I took his radio show and didn't think nothing of it. And then people are like, man, we love hearing your stories. They're like, you're kind of good at this. I was like, all right, cool. So then I just always kept talking. And then you play for the New York Giants.
Pre-game speeches, post-game speeches. So I get interviewed. I had a radio show. You know, I took over Delaney Walker's radio show. So I took his radio show and didn't think nothing of it. And then people are like, man, we love hearing your stories. They're like, you're kind of good at this. I was like, all right, cool. So then I just always kept talking. And then you play for the New York Giants.
And then... You know, you're a captain of the New York Giants and Saquon Ter's ACL. Daniel Jones is not playing too well. And Joe Judge is your coach. So every single week they're asking me questions. Like, Logan, go talk about everyone else but yourself. And, you know, in New England the rule number one is, like, don't speak about anybody else's situation.
And then... You know, you're a captain of the New York Giants and Saquon Ter's ACL. Daniel Jones is not playing too well. And Joe Judge is your coach. So every single week they're asking me questions. Like, Logan, go talk about everyone else but yourself. And, you know, in New England the rule number one is, like, don't speak about anybody else's situation.
So I had to dodge all those questions every week and got really good at, like, talking to the media, being in New York, and having a radio show on WFAN. That's a pretty tough network. with those fans that aren't happy all the time. So that's where it kind of came, and here we are. So now I'm broadcasting and working for CBS.
So I had to dodge all those questions every week and got really good at, like, talking to the media, being in New York, and having a radio show on WFAN. That's a pretty tough network. with those fans that aren't happy all the time. So that's where it kind of came, and here we are. So now I'm broadcasting and working for CBS.
What did I do?
What did I do?
Oh, I had a show, a weekly show. I would call in. Moose and Molly, me and Molly would get into it every single week. So it was a lot of fun, you know? It was like when you're losing two, three games in a row and people want answers and you're just like, look, man, we're trying to do our best. We're trying to do our jobs here. We didn't score enough points. We didn't stop them.
Oh, I had a show, a weekly show. I would call in. Moose and Molly, me and Molly would get into it every single week. So it was a lot of fun, you know? It was like when you're losing two, three games in a row and people want answers and you're just like, look, man, we're trying to do our best. We're trying to do our jobs here. We didn't score enough points. We didn't stop them.
It's like it's not a secret, you know? But everyone wants to dig it out of you. Like, what do we need to do? And I'm like, we need to play better.
It's like it's not a secret, you know? But everyone wants to dig it out of you. Like, what do we need to do? And I'm like, we need to play better.
I think the New England thing, I think it's Bill. And I think we saw his personality this year in the media, right? I think people have seen it and they're like, wow, he's actually funny and actually he's good at telling stories. And I think people were surprised. We always saw that side of Bill. He just didn't want anybody outside the building to get any type of...
I think the New England thing, I think it's Bill. And I think we saw his personality this year in the media, right? I think people have seen it and they're like, wow, he's actually funny and actually he's good at telling stories. And I think people were surprised. We always saw that side of Bill. He just didn't want anybody outside the building to get any type of...
answer from us, any tip, any injury. What's your status? Are you playing next week? Don't talk about your injury status. Don't talk about your teammate's injury status. Oh, you're coming off ACL. You'll be back next game. I know it. Don't put that expectation. So he didn't want to give out any insider info.
answer from us, any tip, any injury. What's your status? Are you playing next week? Don't talk about your injury status. Don't talk about your teammate's injury status. Oh, you're coming off ACL. You'll be back next game. I know it. Don't put that expectation. So he didn't want to give out any insider info.
That was his biggest thing that he taught us is we're trying to win every game, but there's no reason to give our opponent any inside glance of what we do, how we do it, who's playing, what our situations are.
That was his biggest thing that he taught us is we're trying to win every game, but there's no reason to give our opponent any inside glance of what we do, how we do it, who's playing, what our situations are.
Look, I think it's surprising seeing it, yeah, for sure. But I knew that was his personality all along. He played pranks on us. He had jokes. I told this story before, and it's still random to me. You know, we had a bunch of Rutgers guys in New England. McCourty's twins, myself. shoot, a handful, handful of Rutgers players. Steve Belichick went to Rutgers, forgot his own son, right?
Look, I think it's surprising seeing it, yeah, for sure. But I knew that was his personality all along. He played pranks on us. He had jokes. I told this story before, and it's still random to me. You know, we had a bunch of Rutgers guys in New England. McCourty's twins, myself. shoot, a handful, handful of Rutgers players. Steve Belichick went to Rutgers, forgot his own son, right?
So he had his love of Rutgers players, and he would say, like, you know, I was a really good tackler. Like, that was, like, my thing in the NFL. Like, I won the best tackles. I don't miss tackles. I'm tough. I don't miss games. And he was like, these Rutgers guys, they're soft. And he called me soft to get under my skin. And then he's like, you're soft as marshmallows.
So he had his love of Rutgers players, and he would say, like, you know, I was a really good tackler. Like, that was, like, my thing in the NFL. Like, I won the best tackles. I don't miss tackles. I'm tough. I don't miss games. And he was like, these Rutgers guys, they're soft. And he called me soft to get under my skin. And then he's like, you're soft as marshmallows.
And everyone knew I wasn't soft. But I come in my locker one day, and he has a tub of 60-gallon tub of marshmallows overflowing out of my locker. And I'm like, who gave me the marshmallows? And then Bill's like, do you like those marshmallows? Yeah. I'm like, oh, great. What do I do with these? Yeah, it hit for like a second. Good joke, dude. What do I do with all these marshmallows?
And everyone knew I wasn't soft. But I come in my locker one day, and he has a tub of 60-gallon tub of marshmallows overflowing out of my locker. And I'm like, who gave me the marshmallows? And then Bill's like, do you like those marshmallows? Yeah. I'm like, oh, great. What do I do with these? Yeah, it hit for like a second. Good joke, dude. What do I do with all these marshmallows?
It's like, does anyone know what a marshmallow is? Bill, now what do we do? But, like, yeah, the coach pranked me. Like, you know, the coach pranked my own locker. So I don't think people would expect that from Belichick. But, you know, I love playing for him. He was a genius, and I learned a lot from him. And a lot of us Rutgers guys or Patriot guys do good in media because we've got the –
It's like, does anyone know what a marshmallow is? Bill, now what do we do? But, like, yeah, the coach pranked me. Like, you know, the coach pranked my own locker. So I don't think people would expect that from Belichick. But, you know, I love playing for him. He was a genius, and I learned a lot from him. And a lot of us Rutgers guys or Patriot guys do good in media because we've got the –
literally the Harvard school book of football from this guy.
literally the Harvard school book of football from this guy.
That was surprising, no doubt. That shocked all of us. I had to do a lot of media about that, obviously. No one saw that coming, but college football is shifting more to pro football, and he's going to get a good salary, and I'm sure his son's going to be on staff for the future there. So I think he has some things that he wants, and he has the power that he wants to have, and he earned that.
That was surprising, no doubt. That shocked all of us. I had to do a lot of media about that, obviously. No one saw that coming, but college football is shifting more to pro football, and he's going to get a good salary, and I'm sure his son's going to be on staff for the future there. So I think he has some things that he wants, and he has the power that he wants to have, and he earned that.
But, you know, college football is nothing but glorified pro sports. It always has been. Guys weren't getting $8 million playing, I'll tell you that. So guys are getting a lot of money. Coaches are getting a lot of money. So it seemed like a pretty good situation for him.
But, you know, college football is nothing but glorified pro sports. It always has been. Guys weren't getting $8 million playing, I'll tell you that. So guys are getting a lot of money. Coaches are getting a lot of money. So it seemed like a pretty good situation for him.
But I think it's like... You know, what does he want, though? In terms of power? Does he want to go to Jacksonville? Okay. Right? So maybe does he want to go to New Orleans? Maybe the Saints want him right now, but does he want to go there? Sure. So I think maybe the team or the fits that he wanted to go to aren't available.
But I think it's like... You know, what does he want, though? In terms of power? Does he want to go to Jacksonville? Okay. Right? So maybe does he want to go to New Orleans? Maybe the Saints want him right now, but does he want to go there? Sure. So I think maybe the team or the fits that he wanted to go to aren't available.
So he's not going to go. I don't think he's a guy who's going to coach in a situation that he doesn't like.
So he's not going to go. I don't think he's a guy who's going to coach in a situation that he doesn't like.
Right? I think he understands how important it is to have the pieces in play, whatever they are. So I don't think it's so much the NFL didn't want him at all. Maybe last year that was the case.
Right? I think he understands how important it is to have the pieces in play, whatever they are. So I don't think it's so much the NFL didn't want him at all. Maybe last year that was the case.
But this year I felt like he was a little bit more selective.
But this year I felt like he was a little bit more selective.
Very little was said. I remember Brady slammed his helmet because he just threw that pick six, and he was kind of, like, pissed. Yeah. And I remember we're sitting there. It's very long now because it's a halftime show. Right. Right, so it's an extremely longer halftime than normal.
Very little was said. I remember Brady slammed his helmet because he just threw that pick six, and he was kind of, like, pissed. Yeah. And I remember we're sitting there. It's very long now because it's a halftime show. Right. Right, so it's an extremely longer halftime than normal.
And I remember my buddy, Rutgers guy Deron Harmon, is on a bike because you kind of get your adjustments, and you're like, all right, we're going to go adjustments or whatever. And I'll give you some insider here. Okay. Dan Quinn and the Atlanta Falcons, they're a big zone team, right? They play zone defense a lot because he was with Seattle. So we played the previous Super Bowl against Seattle.
And I remember my buddy, Rutgers guy Deron Harmon, is on a bike because you kind of get your adjustments, and you're like, all right, we're going to go adjustments or whatever. And I'll give you some insider here. Okay. Dan Quinn and the Atlanta Falcons, they're a big zone team, right? They play zone defense a lot because he was with Seattle. So we played the previous Super Bowl against Seattle.
So we were anticipating all Seattle's defensive plays. And they come out an all-man-to-man. So I know Josh McDaniels then came in like, oh, we got to go to our man beaters. So they're talking about a lot more X's and O's than motivation. But I remember Deron Harmon, my boy, is like, this is going to be the greatest comeback of all time. And we're like, I'm just trying not to get blown out, bro.
So we were anticipating all Seattle's defensive plays. And they come out an all-man-to-man. So I know Josh McDaniels then came in like, oh, we got to go to our man beaters. So they're talking about a lot more X's and O's than motivation. But I remember Deron Harmon, my boy, is like, this is going to be the greatest comeback of all time. And we're like, I'm just trying not to get blown out, bro.
You know? And then someone else was like, yeah. And then it was like, yeah, yeah. And I was like, yeah. So it's like, you know when someone starts with a slow clap and goes like this? And I heard it, and I was like, all right, bro, chill. We're bad a lot. But then I was like, yo, yo, it will be. Like, yo, it will be. All right, let's go. All right, all right, all right.
You know? And then someone else was like, yeah. And then it was like, yeah, yeah. And I was like, yeah. So it's like, you know when someone starts with a slow clap and goes like this? And I heard it, and I was like, all right, bro, chill. We're bad a lot. But then I was like, yo, yo, it will be. Like, yo, it will be. All right, let's go. All right, all right, all right.
And then we were like, all right, let's go. You know, like, whatever. They convinced you. At first I looked at him like, all right, bro, I don't know. But he did say it first. De'Ron Harmon, the closer we call him, safety came in, closed a lot of games. My boy, he's the first one to say it's going to be the greatest comeback of all time.
And then we were like, all right, let's go. You know, like, whatever. They convinced you. At first I looked at him like, all right, bro, I don't know. But he did say it first. De'Ron Harmon, the closer we call him, safety came in, closed a lot of games. My boy, he's the first one to say it's going to be the greatest comeback of all time.
No, never in that moment. No, heck no. He's not pranking in the Super Bowl. Absolutely not. The marshmallows came nowhere near that. That was probably training camp. But, no, that is not Bill's game day personality.
No, never in that moment. No, heck no. He's not pranking in the Super Bowl. Absolutely not. The marshmallows came nowhere near that. That was probably training camp. But, no, that is not Bill's game day personality.
Tom doesn't have any... It's an odd show, right? He's mythical in a sense. He doesn't have any bad stories. He doesn't have anything that he's not perfect in Tom Brady in.
Tom doesn't have any... It's an odd show, right? He's mythical in a sense. He doesn't have any bad stories. He doesn't have anything that he's not perfect in Tom Brady in.
I haven't seen too many of that of Tom. I will say the first time I got drafted by the Patriots, I get drafted there, and boom, they call me. Okay, I'm 21 years old, by the way. I left Rutgers as a junior, so I'm a 21-year-old kid. I'm in college classes a couple weeks ago. Now I get drafted by New England Patriots in the third round. I go up to Foxborough. I sign my contract.
I haven't seen too many of that of Tom. I will say the first time I got drafted by the Patriots, I get drafted there, and boom, they call me. Okay, I'm 21 years old, by the way. I left Rutgers as a junior, so I'm a 21-year-old kid. I'm in college classes a couple weeks ago. Now I get drafted by New England Patriots in the third round. I go up to Foxborough. I sign my contract.
I go around the hallway. Boom, I see Tom Brady. I dip around the corner. I'm like, oh, shoot. Okay, what am I going to say? Now, mind you, I started playing. I was born in 1991. I'm 33. You know, Tom started playing, I started playing football in 1999. Tom started being the quarterback for the Patriots in like 1999, 2000. You know what I'm saying?
I go around the hallway. Boom, I see Tom Brady. I dip around the corner. I'm like, oh, shoot. Okay, what am I going to say? Now, mind you, I started playing. I was born in 1991. I'm 33. You know, Tom started playing, I started playing football in 1999. Tom started being the quarterback for the Patriots in like 1999, 2000. You know what I'm saying?
So he was a pro when I first ever touched a football. And I'm an old player now. So imagine what he is to these kids. So I'm like, oh shoot, what am I going to say? Let me just like gather my thoughts. So I go around the corner. I'm, like, prepared to introduce Palm Sweaty, Mom Spaghetti, that old thing. Like, I'm prepared to, like, say something. Right. And he goes, hey, what's up, man?
So he was a pro when I first ever touched a football. And I'm an old player now. So imagine what he is to these kids. So I'm like, oh shoot, what am I going to say? Let me just like gather my thoughts. So I go around the corner. I'm, like, prepared to introduce Palm Sweaty, Mom Spaghetti, that old thing. Like, I'm prepared to, like, say something. Right. And he goes, hey, what's up, man?
Logan, right? Logan Ryan, third round out of Rutgers, man. I love you. I'll watch your tape. Like, I'm Tom. If you need anything, like, my locker's over there. And I get here early. And if you need anything, just, like, come to my locker. And he took all the awkwardness out of it. He knew who I was, where I went to school, what pick I was drafted.
Logan, right? Logan Ryan, third round out of Rutgers, man. I love you. I'll watch your tape. Like, I'm Tom. If you need anything, like, my locker's over there. And I get here early. And if you need anything, just, like, come to my locker. And he took all the awkwardness out of it. He knew who I was, where I went to school, what pick I was drafted.
He knew everything about me, and I just was prepared to say hi. So I just thought that spoke volumes. Then I was like, how early? So then I started trying to get there early because I'm an early riser and work started at 8, and I got there at 6.30. He was him, Edelman, Belichick, Carr was there. I got there at 6, him, Edelman, Belichick, Carr was there. I got there at 5.45, him, Edelman.
He knew everything about me, and I just was prepared to say hi. So I just thought that spoke volumes. Then I was like, how early? So then I started trying to get there early because I'm an early riser and work started at 8, and I got there at 6.30. He was him, Edelman, Belichick, Carr was there. I got there at 6, him, Edelman, Belichick, Carr was there. I got there at 5.45, him, Edelman.
I got there at 5.30. Edelman wasn't there. It was Bill and Tom. I'm like, all right. I got there at 5.15. I got there at 5 a.m. one day. Tom and Bill. I said, I'm not going anything earlier than 5. I will be third or fourth for the rest of my career in this parking lot. I will never be – I'm not waking up at 4 a.m. for this.
I got there at 5.30. Edelman wasn't there. It was Bill and Tom. I'm like, all right. I got there at 5.15. I got there at 5 a.m. one day. Tom and Bill. I said, I'm not going anything earlier than 5. I will be third or fourth for the rest of my career in this parking lot. I will never be – I'm not waking up at 4 a.m. for this.
That 5 was it. His car was there. And he's like year 14. Yeah. And I'm a rookie. Yeah. And I was like the third or fourth person in that building every day for the four years I was there. And his car was always there.
That 5 was it. His car was there. And he's like year 14. Yeah. And I'm a rookie. Yeah. And I was like the third or fourth person in that building every day for the four years I was there. And his car was always there.
I didn't even see Tom. I don't even know where Tom was. And then I just had, I would have so much time.
I didn't even see Tom. I don't even know where Tom was. And then I just had, I would have so much time.
Exactly right. That's the truth.
Exactly right. That's the truth.
No, because he'll come out the sauna and you already had his workout clothes sweaty. I'm like, what time did you work out this morning? He already has done his post-workout sauna.
No, because he'll come out the sauna and you already had his workout clothes sweaty. I'm like, what time did you work out this morning? He already has done his post-workout sauna.
You know, I'm just getting in. So, no, he got there early, early, man, like scary hours where I didn't want to venture to.
You know, I'm just getting in. So, no, he got there early, early, man, like scary hours where I didn't want to venture to.
But eventually I had to kill three hours before work.
But eventually I had to kill three hours before work.
And we had long work days in New England. Of course. So I eventually found a routine that I did my lift early, then I ate breakfast at this time, then I did the cold tub, then I stretched, then I did extra film. Right. So I started to get my own routine just trying to keep up with Tom. that I carried with me for 11 years in the NFL.
And we had long work days in New England. Of course. So I eventually found a routine that I did my lift early, then I ate breakfast at this time, then I did the cold tub, then I stretched, then I did extra film. Right. So I started to get my own routine just trying to keep up with Tom. that I carried with me for 11 years in the NFL.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that could be. I like it. That could have been it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that could be. I like it. That could have been it.
Well, Bill slept there. His car was there from last night. No doubt about it. He slept there. Tom, I don't know. I don't know what time Tom is.
Well, Bill slept there. His car was there from last night. No doubt about it. He slept there. Tom, I don't know. I don't know what time Tom is.
Yeah, I think that's the common answer. Just the guys, you know, the fellowship, the brotherhood. I love my wife. I love my kids. But it's not like my locker room guys, we get that bro talk out. Right. You know, it's a competition.
Yeah, I think that's the common answer. Just the guys, you know, the fellowship, the brotherhood. I love my wife. I love my kids. But it's not like my locker room guys, we get that bro talk out. Right. You know, it's a competition.
It's like I can go out there on a pickleball court and try to kill somebody out there, but that's not as competitive as I need it. So I think it's the competition of competing against DeAndre Hopkins or just preparing for battle, like, to me. And I think, you know, I learned that media can be competitive, right? Like we're all trying to do our best.
It's like I can go out there on a pickleball court and try to kill somebody out there, but that's not as competitive as I need it. So I think it's the competition of competing against DeAndre Hopkins or just preparing for battle, like, to me. And I think, you know, I learned that media can be competitive, right? Like we're all trying to do our best.
And when I go kill a segment, right, when I go kill this show, I'm like, all right, boom, check. Like I did what I had to do. Like it's almost a competition to me. Like I showed up prepared.
And when I go kill a segment, right, when I go kill this show, I'm like, all right, boom, check. Like I did what I had to do. Like it's almost a competition to me. Like I showed up prepared.
And I killed that five minutes of TV. When I was a player getting interviewed, we don't think anything about the interview. We're preparing for the game. Hey, can I grab you for five minutes? How much work goes into the interviewer? You're studying for this guy. I know you Googled me like five minutes before I got up here. So you're doing your little homework on me or whatever?
And I killed that five minutes of TV. When I was a player getting interviewed, we don't think anything about the interview. We're preparing for the game. Hey, can I grab you for five minutes? How much work goes into the interviewer? You're studying for this guy. I know you Googled me like five minutes before I got up here. So you're doing your little homework on me or whatever?
There we go. So, like, you know, you put work into it, and the player, you're not thinking anything about the interview. You're like, all right, whatever. But as the interviewer, now I'm on this side of it, I'm preparing to have a good interview or whatever it is.
There we go. So, like, you know, you put work into it, and the player, you're not thinking anything about the interview. You're like, all right, whatever. But as the interviewer, now I'm on this side of it, I'm preparing to have a good interview or whatever it is.
Yeah, appreciate you guys, man. You got it, man.
Yeah, appreciate you guys, man. You got it, man.
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Tatum wasn't even the MVP during the finals. I don't understand why they wouldn't trade a lesser player for a better player.
Tatum wasn't even the MVP during the finals. I don't understand why they wouldn't trade a lesser player for a better player.
You're very wrong. It's a Q-Zip, too.
You're very wrong. It's a Q-Zip, too.
Yes, of course it does. It's like what a cabin is supposed to have. It can't be a cabin without a fireplace.
Yes, of course it does. It's like what a cabin is supposed to have. It can't be a cabin without a fireplace.
Well, but a quarter zip is... Cozy.
Well, but a quarter zip is... Cozy.
Yeah, I was told that happened. No, I said that the NFL caught up to what Sirianni was doing offensively. And for the first couple of weeks, it was looking all right. But then that but then that bye week came and they totally changed their identity. And yeah, I'll eat it. Kelly Moore and Sirianni, they figured something out. No doubt. They're completely different.
Yeah, I was told that happened. No, I said that the NFL caught up to what Sirianni was doing offensively. And for the first couple of weeks, it was looking all right. But then that but then that bye week came and they totally changed their identity. And yeah, I'll eat it. Kelly Moore and Sirianni, they figured something out. No doubt. They're completely different.
For a full season, it felt like he was incapable of moving on from the offense that he had under Steichen. No, credit to them. I was wrong.
For a full season, it felt like he was incapable of moving on from the offense that he had under Steichen. No, credit to them. I was wrong.
No, I mean, yeah, no, I appreciate the opportunity to say I'm sorry, Philadelphia.
No, I mean, yeah, no, I appreciate the opportunity to say I'm sorry, Philadelphia.
No, I was right about that. I warned you all. I warned you all.
No, I was right about that. I warned you all. I warned you all.
It was going on at the same time as the NASCAR race, but I saw the final third of it. My wife watched the entire thing. She said all the performances were great. She couldn't name her favorite one, really, quite honestly. Right. I went back and watched this Chaperone thing because I love that goddamn song.
It was going on at the same time as the NASCAR race, but I saw the final third of it. My wife watched the entire thing. She said all the performances were great. She couldn't name her favorite one, really, quite honestly. Right. I went back and watched this Chaperone thing because I love that goddamn song.
Pink Pony Club is anthemic. It is a great song.
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Tatum wasn't even the MVP during the finals. I don't understand why they wouldn't trade a lesser player for a better player.
You're very wrong. It's a Q-Zip, too.
Yes, of course it does. It's like what a cabin is supposed to have. It can't be a cabin without a fireplace.
Well, but a quarter zip is... Cozy.
Yeah, I was told that happened. No, I said that the NFL caught up to what Sirianni was doing offensively. And for the first couple of weeks, it was looking all right. But then that but then that bye week came and they totally changed their identity. And yeah, I'll eat it. Kelly Moore and Sirianni, they figured something out. No doubt. They're completely different.
For a full season, it felt like he was incapable of moving on from the offense that he had under Steichen. No, credit to them. I was wrong.
No, I mean, yeah, no, I appreciate the opportunity to say I'm sorry, Philadelphia.
No, I was right about that. I warned you all. I warned you all.
It was going on at the same time as the NASCAR race, but I saw the final third of it. My wife watched the entire thing. She said all the performances were great. She couldn't name her favorite one, really, quite honestly. Right. I went back and watched this Chaperone thing because I love that goddamn song.
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family and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers and when you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.