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Mikey Shulman

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
471 total appearances

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

I'm like some tech guy who does music.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

I'm like some tech guy who does music.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

I'm like some tech guy who does music.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

I don't know if this is special to us. I think it's focus. I think at any given time, there are 30 things that we could do that would be very impactful for the company, and we have to choose three of them. And we have to choose carefully. The future of music is greenfield right now. We could be tackling a lot of different things, and we have to be choosy with which ones we do.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

I don't know if this is special to us. I think it's focus. I think at any given time, there are 30 things that we could do that would be very impactful for the company, and we have to choose three of them. And we have to choose carefully. The future of music is greenfield right now. We could be tackling a lot of different things, and we have to be choosy with which ones we do.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

I don't know if this is special to us. I think it's focus. I think at any given time, there are 30 things that we could do that would be very impactful for the company, and we have to choose three of them. And we have to choose carefully. The future of music is greenfield right now. We could be tackling a lot of different things, and we have to be choosy with which ones we do.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

I mean, off the top of my head, like everybody's asking for an API. Do we want to do that business? I don't know. That doesn't really build the future of music that I want to do. There's always a tension between how much of the power tools, the old power tools do we want to build versus figuring out what the new power tools are for creating music.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

I mean, off the top of my head, like everybody's asking for an API. Do we want to do that business? I don't know. That doesn't really build the future of music that I want to do. There's always a tension between how much of the power tools, the old power tools do we want to build versus figuring out what the new power tools are for creating music.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

I mean, off the top of my head, like everybody's asking for an API. Do we want to do that business? I don't know. That doesn't really build the future of music that I want to do. There's always a tension between how much of the power tools, the old power tools do we want to build versus figuring out what the new power tools are for creating music.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

Ooh, probably that good judgment is more important than good skills. And it's because we know how to assess skills and we don't know how to assess judgment. So everybody's teaching for the test here.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

Ooh, probably that good judgment is more important than good skills. And it's because we know how to assess skills and we don't know how to assess judgment. So everybody's teaching for the test here.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

Ooh, probably that good judgment is more important than good skills. And it's because we know how to assess skills and we don't know how to assess judgment. So everybody's teaching for the test here.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

The first order thing is I have less time. And so you have to just be a little more ruthless with prioritization. The flip side answer is patience. Like when you see fast learners, you have to be patient with them. Little kids are incredible learners. They pick up things so much faster than you and I do. And it is incredible to see.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

The first order thing is I have less time. And so you have to just be a little more ruthless with prioritization. The flip side answer is patience. Like when you see fast learners, you have to be patient with them. Little kids are incredible learners. They pick up things so much faster than you and I do. And it is incredible to see.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

The first order thing is I have less time. And so you have to just be a little more ruthless with prioritization. The flip side answer is patience. Like when you see fast learners, you have to be patient with them. Little kids are incredible learners. They pick up things so much faster than you and I do. And it is incredible to see.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

People are not good at realizing what is the first order effects of the issues they deal with or the things that they are doing. And people usually glom onto the second order effects because sometimes they feel, I don't know if they feel smarter or it feels closer to home, but people are not good at judging effect sizes. I'll give you some examples.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

People are not good at realizing what is the first order effects of the issues they deal with or the things that they are doing. And people usually glom onto the second order effects because sometimes they feel, I don't know if they feel smarter or it feels closer to home, but people are not good at judging effect sizes. I'll give you some examples.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

People are not good at realizing what is the first order effects of the issues they deal with or the things that they are doing. And people usually glom onto the second order effects because sometimes they feel, I don't know if they feel smarter or it feels closer to home, but people are not good at judging effect sizes. I'll give you some examples.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

I teach this course at Sloan at MIT's business school. So you need to have an AI policy because it's a course. Are you going to allow students to use ChatGPT? And you get a lot of people saying like GPT is the end of education. And my answer to that is like, no, the first order effect here is that GPT means that every person in the world has like a median competent tutor or sidekick.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

I teach this course at Sloan at MIT's business school. So you need to have an AI policy because it's a course. Are you going to allow students to use ChatGPT? And you get a lot of people saying like GPT is the end of education. And my answer to that is like, no, the first order effect here is that GPT means that every person in the world has like a median competent tutor or sidekick.