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Mikey Shulman

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471 total appearances

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

I teach this course at Sloan at MIT's business school. So you need to have an AI policy because it's a course. Are you going to allow students to use ChatGPT? And you get a lot of people saying like GPT is the end of education. And my answer to that is like, no, the first order effect here is that GPT means that every person in the world has like a median competent tutor or sidekick.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

This is obviously amazing for education. And if you can't recognize that fact, I'm not sure you have such good judgment. Now let's talk about the second order effect, which is that like, yeah, all my homework's just got hackable by, you know, one good prompt. And my response to that is like, yeah, okay, so I as the instructor now need to change what I teach people.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

This is obviously amazing for education. And if you can't recognize that fact, I'm not sure you have such good judgment. Now let's talk about the second order effect, which is that like, yeah, all my homework's just got hackable by, you know, one good prompt. And my response to that is like, yeah, okay, so I as the instructor now need to change what I teach people.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

This is obviously amazing for education. And if you can't recognize that fact, I'm not sure you have such good judgment. Now let's talk about the second order effect, which is that like, yeah, all my homework's just got hackable by, you know, one good prompt. And my response to that is like, yeah, okay, so I as the instructor now need to change what I teach people.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

That's scary and that's a lot of work. But if I don't change what I teach people, I'm not really preparing them for the real world. Most companies are going to let you use GPT when you're like doing your day job. I should probably prepare people to do that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

That's scary and that's a lot of work. But if I don't change what I teach people, I'm not really preparing them for the real world. Most companies are going to let you use GPT when you're like doing your day job. I should probably prepare people to do that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

That's scary and that's a lot of work. But if I don't change what I teach people, I'm not really preparing them for the real world. Most companies are going to let you use GPT when you're like doing your day job. I should probably prepare people to do that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

Coolest. Tons of usage with kids. Kids love music. Kids resonate deeply with music. Half of my usage of the tools with my three-year-old. So that I didn't expect, but lots of things we didn't expect.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

Coolest. Tons of usage with kids. Kids love music. Kids resonate deeply with music. Half of my usage of the tools with my three-year-old. So that I didn't expect, but lots of things we didn't expect.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

Coolest. Tons of usage with kids. Kids love music. Kids resonate deeply with music. Half of my usage of the tools with my three-year-old. So that I didn't expect, but lots of things we didn't expect.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

We were at the top of what people put, the Gen AI products that people put on their ramp credit cards, which means that like lots of, and so we were surprised, people are using this for cold outreach, for sales, for marketing, for all kinds of stuff. That's very cool. That's very exciting. That's entirely new use cases.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

We were at the top of what people put, the Gen AI products that people put on their ramp credit cards, which means that like lots of, and so we were surprised, people are using this for cold outreach, for sales, for marketing, for all kinds of stuff. That's very cool. That's very exciting. That's entirely new use cases.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

We were at the top of what people put, the Gen AI products that people put on their ramp credit cards, which means that like lots of, and so we were surprised, people are using this for cold outreach, for sales, for marketing, for all kinds of stuff. That's very cool. That's very exciting. That's entirely new use cases.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

And it's very hard to say no to cold outreach when somebody wrote you a personalized song. I imagine it's very effective.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

And it's very hard to say no to cold outreach when somebody wrote you a personalized song. I imagine it's very effective.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

And it's very hard to say no to cold outreach when somebody wrote you a personalized song. I imagine it's very effective.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

I think you asked, and then we got sidetracks. It's like, what should the future of music be? Because should is the real word there, because we need to build it. It's the question that I think about night and day more than any other question. The good outcomes here look like a lot more people doing a lot more music for a lot more hours of the day.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

I think you asked, and then we got sidetracks. It's like, what should the future of music be? Because should is the real word there, because we need to build it. It's the question that I think about night and day more than any other question. The good outcomes here look like a lot more people doing a lot more music for a lot more hours of the day.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

I think you asked, and then we got sidetracks. It's like, what should the future of music be? Because should is the real word there, because we need to build it. It's the question that I think about night and day more than any other question. The good outcomes here look like a lot more people doing a lot more music for a lot more hours of the day.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno

And all of the economics will flow downstream from that. And I think about AI as a tool. for achieving many of those ends. It lets a lot more people participate in creation. It lets us recommend music to people more. It will let you tailor a song for your girlfriend to her tastes, which is very, very powerful because it turns out she needs to like the song for that effect to happen.