Miki Agrawal
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182 appearances
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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you know it's like as you grow up get serious like sit down be quiet if you want to go to college and shut up and listen if you want to get a job and shut up and listen like your voice isn't a part of this equation like that is really like the way we've been taught so often to get in line just you know do your work but the disruption is no you can actually live in a childlike state of curiosity playfulness and awe and still be a responsible adult at the same time you can have both like you can really have both
And I think that you nailed it. I think it's really about embodiment. I think it's about dancing your way through life. I think it's, to me, it's twofold. It's one, it's... Um, get out of your head into our bodies, right? I think we're so cut off at the head and we forget that our bodies actually hold all the wisdom.
So how can we actually move into a kind of a more integrated work, live, play environment and escape? But, but burnout to me happens because... Yeah, I think sometimes like you're just working with two pieces that they're missing. One is without clear direction. Right. And without kind of the support and community to to help you stay kind of in the pocket. Right.
I think that's what I was going to say, which was that part about. I think because we're twins, we're really good at asking for help. Excuse me, can you help me? Like, Radha, come help me. Can you? And we're so used to being like, you know, let's go, like, let's go, you know? And it's like, there's always a, like, team.
Like, we grew up, we were in the womb together, like from the womb to the tomb, like we have this saying, and it's like, We've always been in community, always asking for help. A lot of people are too proud to ask for help, ask for support. Literally, when we're anywhere, it's like, excuse me, can you help me with my luggage up top? Can you carry the stroller down the stairs?
We have no problems asking for help. And I think when you ask for help, it gives other people purpose. And when we do it in a way that's full of excitement, it actually enrolls people in ways, and that's authentic, because it is authentic. I think that's the sweet spot, is like, yes, there's the awe, the curiosity, the playfulness, there's the doing and being able to get shit done, but...
it requires a lot of support. It requires a lot of help. And we have, across all of my companies, our companies, we've been able to attract the best people ever because of the enthusiasm, because of the excitement, the idea itself, but then also, like...
the feeling of, like, the usefulness that they all feel because they are playing integral, important roles that we're like, wow, like, you do this? I'm so inspired. And then they're like, wow, you do this? I'm so inspired. So we have this mutual awe of each other that then creates this upward spiral of, like, let's fucking go. Yeah. And I think another thing to add to that is, like, integrating.
Like, I think people burn out because they're heads down, working 100-hour weeks, and there's no integration in their lives. Meaning... they haven't made time for community. It's sort of like, okay, I'm gonna focus on swiping to meet my romantic partner.
I'm going to heads down work 100-hour work week, so focus on work and my professional career, and then community and friendship will come when I have time. Or, you know, like, if I have, you know, a moment here and there, right? And so...
When you flip that and you actually focus on community first, and you really prioritize your friends and your community, not only will they first introduce you to love interests and romantic partners, but they will also be there for you in all the moments of struggle in your work and in the work that we do. So I get to sort of both celebrate my wins and my victories, like when we sold things,
we took 50 friends to Columbia on an all expenses paid vacation because they were there with and for us on the journey of building things. And so most entrepreneurs maybe don't have even any friends to celebrate their wins with because they've been dog-eat-dogging or elbowing their way to get to the finish line. isolated themselves.
And so, it's so critical to actually flip the paradigm from career and romantic partnership, and then friendship second, to community first, romantic and career second, because the community will actually support both of those parts of your life.
And it's fun too.
it was so powerful to see the community show up. Like Radha and like 20 friends came with like a boom box, circled me, you know, with music and danced around during that time. And like for a year, I probably didn't have one day where I didn't have friends coming over, bringing me food, bringing music, bringing song, bringing love, bringing cheer, juice, whatever. Um,
And, you know, we battled like, you know, the big bad wolf together, you know? And we got to, you know, heal together and they got to witness healing happen. They got to witness like, you know, me on my knees and like asking for help and support and love. And they were like here for it.
And I think imagine going through that experience alone when you're literally going through this type of an experience where you're running out of money in your company or you're going through a story that is really difficult. You're going through a challenge at work and you've given all of yourself to the project and you have no one to confide in or turn to.
And that's why one in three Americans have zero friends to confide in. This number has tripled in the last 30 years and turns out having poor social connections is as harmful to your physical health as being an alcoholic and twice as harmful as obesity or smoking 15 cigarettes per day. So, loneliness is really prevalent amongst entrepreneurs, amongst, I mean, one in three Americans in general.
And I think we've become more lonely as we've continued to swipe post-pandemic. There's so many experiences that we're, you know, the political polarization that we're facing, of course, during these elections.
You know, we're in a really important time to come back to each other, to remember the importance of belonging and community, and that's sort of why we've dedicated so much of our life to that effort and community.
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