Mitch Joel

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3,100 appearances 12 recordings 1 series first heard May 2026 last heard 9 Aug

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Thinking With Mitch Joel · Human Agency With Marcus Fontoura - TWMJ #1038 · 31 May 2026 podcast

We talk about why so many people feel like passengers in a voice-verified

Digital world increasingly governed by these algorithms and these artificial intelligence systems and recommendation engines and all of these invisible layers of infrastructure. voice-verified

Marcus also has an incredible new book that is worth checking out that's called Human Agency in a Digital World. voice-verified

Understand technology and make it work for you. voice-verified

In a moment when these conversations about AI often drift towards either utopia. voice-verified

or dystopia and I recognize I'm part of the problem here, Marcus offers something much rarer, and it's a grounded perspective from someone actually building these systems. voice-verified

It's also a reminder that the future is still something we have the power to influence. voice-verified

Enjoy the conversation. voice-verified

So yeah, I mean, one, pleasure to meet you, Marcus. voice-verified

And thanks for agreeing to do this. voice-verified

For those who don't know you, you are integral to how this whole thing now operates on the internet. voice-verified

For those who don't know, explain exactly what that this means in terms of being a CTO, senior Azure, obviously being the cloud service for Microsoft. voice-verified

Yeah and it's a company that's had such a how long have you been with Microsoft? voice-verified

When you're at Google, you're at IBM, you are somebody who is deeply versed in understanding the stuff that to most of us is not only understandable, but I mean, I think it's the spirit of your book, Human Agency in a Digital World, is that it's frustrating to a lot of people because we can't even come close to understanding it. voice-verified

And I want to start there a little bit. voice-verified

Can you give us some thinking as to perhaps why most people have this? voice-verified

frustration of like, I don't understand how it does this. voice-verified

It feels like it's manipulating me. voice-verified

People I think want to intuitively have agency, but they feel somewhat trapped. voice-verified

Can you walk us a bit through how you think about this? voice-verified

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