M.J. Franklin

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2,519 appearances 13 recordings 2 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard 4 Sep

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I think she is.
And I think this gets at one of my gripes about the book, which is... So she is really railing against the constraints that are put upon her as a woman, as a Christian, as a mother.
And...
She's right.
She's put in these boxes and she's forced to perform and it's impossible to be a person under these constraints.
Which is the part that I liked.
I think this book is getting at that irony that we all kind of live with the idea of performance and we're putting ourselves into boxes for a variety of reasons.
My gripe is then Natalie kind of not just puts herself in the box, it's how Natalie talks about Caleb and what is a good job for Caleb or what is not a good job for Caleb.
Because it's not to be like, think about the men, but it's like Natalie is...
reflecting those same types of gender norms and creating a more entrenched gender system overall that then ultimately hurts herself and again I keep saying I keep looping back and forth that may be the point of the book but
But am I bringing that to the book or is that just something that the book kind of stumbles over?
And I say that because the stuff with Caleb is played for jokes.
But she's like, you can't be a kindergarten teacher because that's not a job for men.
And that's played for a joke.
That's not played for part of the overall critique of like, okay, how are we creating these gender norms that then Natalie is railing against?
But before we get to spoilers, I want to ask, we've talked a lot about in this conversation so far, the modern storyline.
What do we think about the other half of the book, which is the flash of the past?
Really?
Tell me more.
She's lost in the past.
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