Molly Graham

Totally.

No, I mean, companies are just a structure that's basically to organize humans to be greater than the sum of their parts.

So at the end of the day, the work of building companies and businesses and the work of work is about humans and interrelations.

And yes, there are robots, but the humans are still the main show.

And that means the main

you know, sort of experience of work is a human experience.

Thank you so much, Lisa.

This was so fun.

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There's a lot of pressure around what it takes to build a great career.

And it all comes back to this idea that you're supposed to know what you want to do.

It's an idea that I like to call the stairs.

Here's how the stairs go.

You show up in college, and you're supposed to know what you want to major in.

That major is supposed to lead you to your first job.