Molly Graham

That's very nice.

And second, I'm so fascinated by your path to just like you've done such an interesting job defining like what, what moves you and what feels right to you.

And this sense that if you don't get it right, then you're on the wrong path forever.

And, you know, we could talk about first jobs a lot.

But part of the point of, like, I think what happens when you do get that first job is you end up on this journey.

And that to me is like the most interesting quest in work.

set of stairs that you didn't even know existed.

And, and the idea of the stairs is basically like, it's kind of like our parents' generation.

Like at least my dad, like he, he worked in the same place for 40 years.

I feel like when I left my first job, my dad was like, you, you're doing what?

Like you're leaving, you're leaving a job, you know?

And I, so many of my friends have the same thing with their parents where their parents did the same thing in this, you know,

They might have done different jobs in a company, but they were in the same company.

Yeah, for sure.

I mean, I think the stairs like I think a lot about folks graduating from college.

And this is actually a picture someone drew on a whiteboard for me way back in the day where he was sort of like, look, you can stay in the same company and you can walk up these stairs.

And I think there's a lot of panic around like finding your first job and and this sense that if you don't get it right, then you're on the wrong path forever.

And, you know, we could talk about first jobs a lot.

And it does have kind of a rhythm to it when you're in these bigger companies where like every two years or three years you get promoted and your job changes from

But but part of the point of like I think what happens when you you do get that first job is you you end up on this this.