Mouin Rabbani
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first heard Mar 2024
last heard Mar 2024
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And my response to that is, first of all, I disagree with that characterization.
That's what they did. And they knew that the Jews were being persecuted in Europe at the time. the only spot of land on earth?
What about your great friends in Britain, the architects of the Balfour Declaration?
And why are Palestinians, who were not Europeans, who had zero role in the rise of Nazism, who had no relation to any of this? Why are they somehow uniquely responsible for what happened in Europe?
So that wasn't the only safe haven, but shouldn't you be focusing your anger and outrage?
And he happens to be the longest-serving prime minister of Israel. I cannot be responsible for them. You're not responsible for them, but it is relevant that he's the longest-serving prime minister of Israel. Unfortunately,
Yes, and he gets selected, not despite saying such things, but because he says such things.
You may well be right, but... Anyway, not to beat a dead horse, but I still don't understand. I'll just conclude by saying I don't understand why the Mufti of Jerusalem is relevant. He is relevant. He is relevant.
What can you do? I think we're speaking past each other. We're not.
1988, so it's from the 80s. I think your characterization of that charter as anti-Semitic is indisputable. I think your characterization of that charter is genocidal. is off the mark. And more importantly, that charter has been superseded by a new charter. There is no new charter.
2018, the Hamas charter, if we look at the current version of the charter... It's not a call to charter.
The only thing called the charter is what was issued in 1988 by Yassin himself. Anyway, it makes a clear distinction between Jews and Zionists in 2018. Now, you can choose to dismiss it, believe it, it's sincere, it's insincere, whatever.
Secondly, I'm really unfamiliar with fighters who consult these kinds of documents before they go on.
At the instruction of the Commissioner General of UNRWA, right? Right.
Secondly, you keep saying Jews, to which I would respond. They use the word Jews. To which I would respond that Hamas does not have a record of... deliberately targeting Jews who are not Israelis. And in fact, it also doesn't have a record of deliberately targeting either Jews or Israelis outside Israel and Palestine.
So, you know, all this talk of... Unlike the Hezbollah, which has targeted Jews outside Palestine. We're talking about October 7th in Hamas. If you'd also like to speak about Hezbollah, let's get to that separately, if you don't mind. Okay. So again, genocidal. Well, if that term is going to be discussed, my first response would be, let's talk about
potentially genocidal actions against Israelis rather than against Jews for the reasons that I just mentioned. And again, I find this constant conflation of Jews, Israel, Zionism to be a bit disturbing. Secondly, I think there are quite a few indications in the factual record that raise serious questions
about the accusations of the genocidal intent and genocidal practice of what happened on October 7th. And my final point would be, I don't think I should take your word for it. I don't think you should take my word for it. I think what we need here is a proper, independent, international investigation. And the reason we need that of genocide during this conflict, whether by...
Palestinians on October 7th or Israel thereafter. The reason that we need such an investigation is because there won't be any hearings on what Hamas did on October 7th at the International Court of Justice. because the International Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide deals only with states and not with movements.
I think the International Criminal Court, and specifically its current prosecutor, Karim Khan, lacks any and all credibility. He's been an absolute failure at his job. He's just been sitting on his backside for years on this file. And I think I would point out that Hamas has called for independent investigations of all these allegations.
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