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Well, that's also part and parcel of the call to religious humility.

I want to get what I want. It's like, what makes you so sure you're right about what you want? So I think that notion of, this is something I've been discussing with my wife a lot because she really learned this in the last few years, is that, so we talked about setting an amorphous uphill goal. Okay, so that's sort of predicated in part

I want to get what I want. It's like, what makes you so sure you're right about what you want? So I think that notion of, this is something I've been discussing with my wife a lot because she really learned this in the last few years, is that, so we talked about setting an amorphous uphill goal. Okay, so that's sort of predicated in part

I want to get what I want. It's like, what makes you so sure you're right about what you want? So I think that notion of, this is something I've been discussing with my wife a lot because she really learned this in the last few years, is that, so we talked about setting an amorphous uphill goal. Okay, so that's sort of predicated in part

You can think about that as a religious relationship with the unknown. It's sort of predicated on part on your a priori presumption that you don't know finally what's good for you. Now, but what you could want is to learn that and discover it, right? But that's like an ongoing relationship.

You can think about that as a religious relationship with the unknown. It's sort of predicated on part on your a priori presumption that you don't know finally what's good for you. Now, but what you could want is to learn that and discover it, right? But that's like an ongoing relationship.

You can think about that as a religious relationship with the unknown. It's sort of predicated on part on your a priori presumption that you don't know finally what's good for you. Now, but what you could want is to learn that and discover it, right? But that's like an ongoing relationship.

And what that does is it provides a solution to the problem of you getting what you want and finding out that it wasn't the right thing. Because you still want to journey forward. You want to sally forth, so to speak. But you have to do that in ignorance and humility.

And what that does is it provides a solution to the problem of you getting what you want and finding out that it wasn't the right thing. Because you still want to journey forward. You want to sally forth, so to speak. But you have to do that in ignorance and humility.

And what that does is it provides a solution to the problem of you getting what you want and finding out that it wasn't the right thing. Because you still want to journey forward. You want to sally forth, so to speak. But you have to do that in ignorance and humility.

And you have to do that understanding that as you make progress, you're going to shift the goal that you're seeking and that that should happen. Because otherwise you run into exactly the paradox that you described.

And you have to do that understanding that as you make progress, you're going to shift the goal that you're seeking and that that should happen. Because otherwise you run into exactly the paradox that you described.

And you have to do that understanding that as you make progress, you're going to shift the goal that you're seeking and that that should happen. Because otherwise you run into exactly the paradox that you described.

That's why heaven isn't important. Yeah, well, you know, I've thought about that a lot, this notion of life... life abundant in eternity. We tend to read that concretized and think about that as something like life after death, but that's not what it is. As far as I can tell, it's something like the state that exists when you posit an amorphous, indefinite,

That's why heaven isn't important. Yeah, well, you know, I've thought about that a lot, this notion of life... life abundant in eternity. We tend to read that concretized and think about that as something like life after death, but that's not what it is. As far as I can tell, it's something like the state that exists when you posit an amorphous, indefinite,

That's why heaven isn't important. Yeah, well, you know, I've thought about that a lot, this notion of life... life abundant in eternity. We tend to read that concretized and think about that as something like life after death, but that's not what it is. As far as I can tell, it's something like the state that exists when you posit an amorphous, indefinite,

goal as your ultimate goal, because that imbues everything local with a kind of global significance, right? I'm pursuing the best and that's how it's manifesting itself in the moment. And that's life eternal because there's an element of it that's timeless. So, you know, in the Sermon on the Mount, it's a guide to what you just described. Christ says, it's very specific.

goal as your ultimate goal, because that imbues everything local with a kind of global significance, right? I'm pursuing the best and that's how it's manifesting itself in the moment. And that's life eternal because there's an element of it that's timeless. So, you know, in the Sermon on the Mount, it's a guide to what you just described. Christ says, it's very specific.

goal as your ultimate goal, because that imbues everything local with a kind of global significance, right? I'm pursuing the best and that's how it's manifesting itself in the moment. And that's life eternal because there's an element of it that's timeless. So, you know, in the Sermon on the Mount, it's a guide to what you just described. Christ says, it's very specific.

He says, first of all, focus your attention on the highest imaginable. Okay, whatever that is, like you don't know exactly, right? But it's because it's indefinite and it's ineffable and it's beyond you. But that's what you want to, that's what you're orienting towards. So you establish your, then pay attention to the moment. Exactly.