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But he also wanders in the land of Nod. And the land of Nod is being traditionally associated with sleep and unconsciousness. So the... The moral of the story is that if you're a psychopathic manipulator, you end up wandering unconsciously, right? And your life, Cain says, my life has become a, he says, I can't stand the punishment. I can't tolerate the consequences of my actions.

But he also wanders in the land of Nod. And the land of Nod is being traditionally associated with sleep and unconsciousness. So the... The moral of the story is that if you're a psychopathic manipulator, you end up wandering unconsciously, right? And your life, Cain says, my life has become a, he says, I can't stand the punishment. I can't tolerate the consequences of my actions.

But he also wanders in the land of Nod. And the land of Nod is being traditionally associated with sleep and unconsciousness. So the... The moral of the story is that if you're a psychopathic manipulator, you end up wandering unconsciously, right? And your life, Cain says, my life has become a, he says, I can't stand the punishment. I can't tolerate the consequences of my actions.

Right.

Right.

Right.

Right, but what's the specific role of memory? I get the role of permanence, but you've brought up memory a couple of times. Is it that the experience enriches as it's multiplied? Like listening to a song that you love in many different contexts?

Right, but what's the specific role of memory? I get the role of permanence, but you've brought up memory a couple of times. Is it that the experience enriches as it's multiplied? Like listening to a song that you love in many different contexts?

Right, but what's the specific role of memory? I get the role of permanence, but you've brought up memory a couple of times. Is it that the experience enriches as it's multiplied? Like listening to a song that you love in many different contexts?

Because by November, there's nothing to be thankful for.

Because by November, there's nothing to be thankful for.

Because by November, there's nothing to be thankful for.

Okay, so memory there is something like a marker for a marker, not just a marker for permanence, but an actual indicator of permanence.

Okay, so memory there is something like a marker for a marker, not just a marker for permanence, but an actual indicator of permanence.

Okay, so memory there is something like a marker for a marker, not just a marker for permanence, but an actual indicator of permanence.

Okay, so basically, tell me if I'm correct about that. You seem to be making the case that, I mean, this is a restatement of something we already discussed, but I want to get right to the heart of the matter, is that, well, why would you settle for pleasure Why would you settle for momentary pleasure when you could be like walking in the eternal garden, so to speak?

Okay, so basically, tell me if I'm correct about that. You seem to be making the case that, I mean, this is a restatement of something we already discussed, but I want to get right to the heart of the matter, is that, well, why would you settle for pleasure Why would you settle for momentary pleasure when you could be like walking in the eternal garden, so to speak?

Okay, so basically, tell me if I'm correct about that. You seem to be making the case that, I mean, this is a restatement of something we already discussed, but I want to get right to the heart of the matter, is that, well, why would you settle for pleasure Why would you settle for momentary pleasure when you could be like walking in the eternal garden, so to speak?

You're going to substitute permanence and maybe improving permanence for the momentary pleasure. Why would we do that? Well, okay. So I've been thinking about this in terms of maturation because I think a lot of the things that we see as hedonistic and power-mad pathologies are just sustained immaturity. Right. Because toddlers are...

You're going to substitute permanence and maybe improving permanence for the momentary pleasure. Why would we do that? Well, okay. So I've been thinking about this in terms of maturation because I think a lot of the things that we see as hedonistic and power-mad pathologies are just sustained immaturity. Right. Because toddlers are...