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I think that's by definition an adventure, actually.

I think that's by definition an adventure, actually.

That's a Jungian thing. Okay.

That's a Jungian thing. Okay.

That's a Jungian thing. Okay.

Okay, so... And did you familiarize yourself with Jung as well?

Okay, so... And did you familiarize yourself with Jung as well?

Okay, so... And did you familiarize yourself with Jung as well?

Yeah, yeah. Well, I was wondering if there's a separate pathway to that. Because that's not standard academic knowledge.

Yeah, yeah. Well, I was wondering if there's a separate pathway to that. Because that's not standard academic knowledge.

Yeah, yeah. Well, I was wondering if there's a separate pathway to that. Because that's not standard academic knowledge.

So when you're doing this at the business school, or at the Kennedy School for that matter, now you're focusing on the personal and the relational.

So when you're doing this at the business school, or at the Kennedy School for that matter, now you're focusing on the personal and the relational.

So when you're doing this at the business school, or at the Kennedy School for that matter, now you're focusing on the personal and the relational.

But you're doing that in the context of business and government.

But you're doing that in the context of business and government.

But you're doing that in the context of business and government.

Okay, well, how do you square that circle?

Okay, well, how do you square that circle?

Okay, well, how do you square that circle?