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Nadia Raymond

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
176 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

The fraud was related to the Death Master file.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

Musk was pointing to a problem with it, namely that there were people who were clearly dead who were not in it, people who seemed to be 150 years old, according to other social security databases.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

He posted, quote, maybe Twilight is real and there are a lot of vampires collecting social security.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

He even brought it up in the Oval Office with President Trump before the cameras.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

Jeremiah was pissed off because in layman's terms, it's complicated.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

It's true that there were some people who appeared to be 150 not marked as dead.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

But the Social Security Administration knew that already.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

And they knew why.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

Sometimes the death of a person born in 1875 or whatever didn't get reported to the SSA.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

And without an official death date, that person didn't go on the Death Master files.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

Regardless, there was a whole system in place to make sure Social Security payments did not go out to these people.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

Because when someone is over 100, the Social Security Administration actually contacts them to make sure they're still alive.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

He says some of these hundred plus year olds are happy to have a visitor.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

Others are like, go away, of course I'm alive.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

And if there's any fraud, anyone taking in a paycheck for a dead relative, the SSA would catch it.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

Plus, the SSA had already tried to clean up the Death Master file, specifically chasing down death dates for these 150-plus-year-olds.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

But it took a lot of time and resources, and it didn't save the government any money because it's not like the SSA had been sending checks to these dead people.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

So, the opposite of efficiency.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

But Doge still pressed on.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

They wanted Jeremiah's team to mark these apparent 150-year-olds as dead and mark them now.