Nadia

Yeah, I know, I know.

And I always laugh because as a woman, I love getting older.

Yes.

Every birthday I'm like, I'm 53.

Yes.

Because I know lots of women that don't.

Because I love the way I feel.

Yes.

And I, you know, complain about...

things that are changing it's not I'm not immune I'm not looking in the mirror and going oh you're doing amazing today but I I love the way I feel and my 20s and 30s were really fucking hard and I didn't love the way I didn't love the way I felt when I walked into a room I didn't love the way I felt

when I was in relationship and now I'm like, oh, I'm good.

And that only comes with age and wisdom and acceptance, I think.

Reflection.

Yeah, and self-awareness.

And the amazing thing about, I think, when we wrote Self-Care for the Real World and we had to put the dedication at the beginning of the book, and we kind of chose to do it for our mum and dad.

And in a way, it was because we wouldn't be where we are now without the story that we had.

Yeah.

And so it wasn't easy.

It was really hard, but it also brought us to all this awareness.

And that is a gift, you know, even though it was challenging at times.