Nadia

Can I just say first of all is that we do need each other.

And being needy is different to needing.

And we all need each other.

And as women, we're kind of taught, don't need someone.

You can do this on your own.

And you become hyper-independent.

And I think also in a healthy relationship, sometimes we do need more than the other person does.

And sometimes they need more than we do.

And we've got a really funny story.

We went on a magic mushroom retreat.

I wanted to try and break this habit of being the big sister that always feels like I've got to take care of my sister.

Not that she makes me, it's just my desire to take care of her.

And so we go on this retreat and I said, Katia, you know, you're going to have to do this on your own.

And she's like, well, you're not going to sit behind me like you did in labour and breathe.

And I'm like, no, I'm paying for the retreat as well.

I want to do my bit and you do your bit and we'll talk to them and they'll take care of you if they need you, if you need them.

And so we get there.

Did I need them?

Had you ever done psilocybin or any kind?

I hadn't.