Nadim Onuoha

But if players don't marry up to that, then it's not going to work out anyway.

I think across all the years, we've seen so many different profiles of manager go to Spurs.

You know, somebody that's seen more character attack in football, like a Nuno, you know, like the dominant guy, like a Conte, dominant like a Mourinho, someone soft like a Frank, you know, you've got Pochettino's.

And trying to figure out what the right thing is for that club with those fans and those players has proved to be very, very tricky.

And Thomas Frank is here now.

And you can almost sense the doubt that so many of them have in how his style of play works.

But then it is made worse by the sheer number of injuries that they have.

But still, you would expect with the players that they can put out, with the 11 that they put out, you should be expecting more.

Again, today against the Newcastle side that have been...

terrible away from home results wise for the whole season and again that's another team that's in the champions league so again i suppose the thread is there what what is the value of the champions league to the english teams when they can perform so badly domestically but yeah i think you could change the manager sure but is it still these players going to play that game against arsenal i don't think they become any less of an underdog and you could say well just just bed in you know try and don't do a low block and hit on the counter attack

But as we've seen in recent weeks, they're not very good at doing that either.

So I guess for me, you're just going to have to stick with it and hope that they can just perform out their skins in one particular game.

For some reason, I've seen a lot of West Ham recently, and the recency bias is going to have me say that West Ham are going to stay up.

So I think I'm with Craig at this moment in time, thinking that unless Forrest finds some magic, I think it could be there.

You wanted me to say Tottenham.

oh it's rubbish especially with an open goal from two yards out that's why they need to get rid of him it's nonsense but yeah you know it's good to see him back and in better health and obviously he's scored three penalties in two games but the fact that he's stepping up with the confidence and doing it and it seems like his link up with João Pedro is going pretty well so far they did well in the Champions League a couple of weeks ago and you can see that they're kind of on the same wavelength but that miss there like

With all due respect to Cole Palmer, he looks like his special subject is football in terms of his mind and the way he talks.

And him just wrapped up in the net looking all confused.

That's just such a great picture to just explain just him.

The fact that he wasn't able to finish that sums up that game for Chelsea.