Nancy Grace
Appearances
Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part One: The Rush Limbaugh Episodes with Paul F. Tompkins
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Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part One: The Rush Limbaugh Episodes with Paul F. Tompkins
Beautiful young women full of life and dreams murdered or vanished without a trace. Their families left with nothing but heartbreak, questions, and memories. I'm Nancy Grace. This week on Crime Stories, we uncover the truth behind these unsolved cases. We work to bring justice and answers to grieving families. Please don't miss Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part One: The Rush Limbaugh Episodes with Paul F. Tompkins
Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part One: The Rush Limbaugh Episodes with Paul F. Tompkins
Beautiful young women full of life and dreams murdered or vanished without a trace. Their families left with nothing but heartbreak, questions, and memories. I'm Nancy Grace. This week on Crime Stories, we uncover the truth behind these unsolved cases. We work to bring justice and answers to grieving families. Please don't miss Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part One: The Rush Limbaugh Episodes with Paul F. Tompkins
Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part One: The Rush Limbaugh Episodes with Paul F. Tompkins
Yeah. Yeah.
Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part One: The Rush Limbaugh Episodes with Paul F. Tompkins
Beautiful young women full of life and dreams murdered or vanished without a trace. Their families left with nothing but heartbreak, questions, and memories. I'm Nancy Grace. This week on Crime Stories, we uncover the truth behind these unsolved cases. We work to bring justice and answers to grieving families. Please don't miss Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part One: The Rush Limbaugh Episodes with Paul F. Tompkins
Beautiful young women full of life and dreams murdered or vanished without a trace. Their families left with nothing but heartbreak, questions, and memories. I'm Nancy Grace. This week on Crime Stories, we uncover the truth behind these unsolved cases. We work to bring justice and answers to grieving families. Please don't miss Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part One: The Rush Limbaugh Episodes with Paul F. Tompkins
Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Woody Guthrie Turned Folk Music into a Weapon
Beautiful young women full of life and dreams murdered or vanished without a trace. Their families left with nothing but heartbreak, questions, and memories. I'm Nancy Grace. This week on Crime Stories, we uncover the truth behind these unsolved cases. We work to bring justice and answers to grieving families. Please don't miss Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Woody Guthrie Turned Folk Music into a Weapon
Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Woody Guthrie Turned Folk Music into a Weapon
Beautiful young women full of life and dreams murdered or vanished without a trace. Their families left with nothing but heartbreak, questions, and memories. I'm Nancy Grace. This week on Crime Stories, we uncover the truth behind these unsolved cases. We work to bring justice and answers to grieving families. Please don't miss Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Woody Guthrie Turned Folk Music into a Weapon
Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Hood Politics with Prop
Beautiful young women full of life and dreams murdered or vanished without a trace. Their families left with nothing but heartbreak, questions, and memories. I'm Nancy Grace. This week on Crime Stories, we uncover the truth behind these unsolved cases. We work to bring justice and answers to grieving families. Please don't miss Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Hood Politics with Prop
Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Hood Politics with Prop
Beautiful young women full of life and dreams murdered or vanished without a trace. Their families left with nothing but heartbreak, questions, and memories. I'm Nancy Grace. This week on Crime Stories, we uncover the truth behind these unsolved cases. We work to bring justice and answers to grieving families. Please don't miss Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Hood Politics with Prop
Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Hood Politics with Prop
Beautiful young women full of life and dreams murdered or vanished without a trace. Their families left with nothing but heartbreak, questions, and memories. I'm Nancy Grace. This week on Crime Stories, we uncover the truth behind these unsolved cases. We work to bring justice and answers to grieving families. Please don't miss Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Hood Politics with Prop
Beautiful young women full of life and dreams murdered or vanished without a trace. Their families left with nothing but heartbreak, questions, and memories. I'm Nancy Grace. This week on Crime Stories, we uncover the truth behind these unsolved cases. We work to bring justice and answers to grieving families. Please don't miss Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Hood Politics with Prop
Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Hood Politics with Prop
Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Bone Valley
Jeremy | Chapter 1 - You Told Me No
I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Breaking news tonight. The return of Tot Mom. It feels like a dirt sandwich in my mouth. TikTok stardom ahead as Casey Anthony haters beg, please go away. Guys, please don't miss this. Please join us.
Bone Valley
Jeremy | Chapter 1 - You Told Me No
I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Breaking news tonight. The return of Tot Mom. It feels like a dirt sandwich in my mouth. TikTok stardom ahead as Casey Anthony haters beg, please go away. Guys, please don't miss this. Please join us.
Bone Valley
Jeremy | Chapter 1 - You Told Me No
I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Breaking news tonight. The return of Tot Mom. It feels like a dirt sandwich in my mouth. TikTok stardom ahead as Casey Anthony haters beg, please go away. Guys, please don't miss this. Please join us.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
First of all, thank you for inviting me. I really appreciate it. And on behalf of her mother and father, Josh and Sandy, the only way to get justice in this case is to bring the feds in on the case, and I'll explain why. But just let it sink in. Despite 20 knife wounds, 20 knife wounds, 11 bruises, And catch this, the textbook signs of strangulation. I'm not saying, Megan, that she died.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
The COD is not cause of death. It's not strangulation. But she was strangled. There are bruise marks that are unrelated to the stab wounds on her neck and strap muscles like this. See what I mean? Here and here. I can see them with the naked eye and the autopsy photos. Listen to this. When the then medical examiner, Dr. Marlon Osborn, first got Ellen's body, he ruled it a homicide.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
Of course, she stabbed 20 times, including 10 stab wounds to the back, even slicing her dura, the protective sheath around the spine. Yet she kept stabbing herself 20 times. So naturally, he said, this is a homicide. Wait for it. Then, because police had already said, oh, yeah, lot from the inside, this is definitely a suicide. They go meet with the medical examiner.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
And this stinks to high heaven. The medical examiner, Marlon Osborn, a rep from the district attorney's office, a female prosecutor who has now gotten immunity about this, and members of the police department, Philly PD, they all meet behind closed doors. When the M.E. comes out, he goes, correction, it's a suicide. Okay, what happened in 72 hours? It was a homicide. They have the meeting.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
They never divulge what happened. He comes out and goes, change my mind, oopsie, and rules it a suicide.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
now the parents of ellen greenberg have spent their life savings this is just before the wedding they've already booked the venue gorgeous the band the food the works it's all done she met mr wright okay she was happy why suicide they spent all their life savings they just sold their house megan to try to get her name cleared that she did not commit suicide.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
So they sue the city, the cops, they throw the book, they sue them civilly. They're picking the jury and the ME is gonna have to take the stand and divulge what happened in that closed door meeting, why he changed his ruling. Last minute, 11th hour, they settled the case. Rather than tell the truth, He settles the case. Where does that leave the case? Pending.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
And I'm telling you, Josh Shapiro, the now governor, and you know how I hate to talk about politics because I don't want the crimes I report and investigate to be any swayed by politics. Josh Shapiro was the state AG at the time. He was begged, look at this. He's like, I don't see any evidence. I agree with the police. How could he say that?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
He was this close to the Oval Office until the name Ellen Greenberg popped up in the media. And suddenly he was off the roster of potential VP candidates.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
That's how controversial this case is. And now he's the governor.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
Well, that jumped out at me as well. However, I will say that at this juncture, when there hasn't even been a real investigation, no luminol was used. I would like to point out that no fingerprints were taken. Her blood was smeared along the kitchen cabinet. She was found sitting up in the kitchen floor, legs in the kitchen floor, back against the cabinets.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
And there was blood smeared behind her as if she had been slammed against the cabinets and then landed where she was sitting. This is devastating to the investigation. There's something that we call the wrong way blood. When fire and PD got there, blood was dried, Megan. She's sitting up, going horizontally across her face. Impossible if you believe in Sir Isaac Newton findings and gravity.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
the blood would have gone like that, right? Straight down. It was dried this way, which proves at some point she had been lying that way for the blood to dry and then propped up, which is staging of the same. What I'm saying right now, all I want is an independent investigation. I'm not ready to point a finger at anybody. Nobody. Yeah, sure, I can speculate.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
But I believe that that would hurt the investigation because what if down the line it's somebody else and the state will be haunted by speculation? So I think what we need right now is this case to be reopened for an independent investigation. You just touched the tip of the iceberg. There's the wrong way blood. There are signs of strangulation.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
You and I discussed the criminal statistics, the method and assessment of homicide and suicide. It is highly unlikely, A, for a female to kill herself and destroy anything around the face and the head. She might poison herself. She might OD. She might jump out a window. She might use carbon monoxide in a car or an oven, gas. But it's highly unlikely she would stab herself.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
Now, in the rear event, a female does stab herself. Through her clothing. Right. It wouldn't be 20 times. When the fire department got there, Megan, they said she would have to be double or triple jointed to stab herself in the back that many times. In the back. And here is the coup de grace. Here's the topper. I hope you're sitting down. You may need to lay down, Megan, to hear this. Oh, boy.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
Some of the wounds, according to experts, not me, experts, medical examiners, death investigators, at least one, if not more wounds were administered post-mortem. after death, after her heart stopped beating. Why? They did not bleed. If you're dead and you're lying there and I stab you, it's not going to bleed because your heart's not pumping blood anymore.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
At least one, if not two, wounds were postmortem, Megan. It's impossible for this to be suicide. Now, I do not impugn perjury or nefarious intent on anyone yet. I believe the cops got there. They believed they just ate the story they were told that the door was broken in. And maybe it was. I don't know the answer to that yet.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
I do know by breaking in a door, you destroy evidence if the door was locked or unlocked because the door is now broken down. But they said when they got there that something was wrong when they first got there. But They didn't use luminol. They didn't make any measurements. I have found out that on the bottom of her shoes, Megan, was covered in blood. If she killed herself, why would that be?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
I found that clumps of her hair covered in blood were between her legs where she was sitting, according to a rep for the family. None of this equals suicide. I think the cops did a shabby job. The very next day, The apartment manager was asked if the fiance's family could come get items for the funeral. She called the police and asked them, can they? And they went, sure.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
And she said, well, can I clean the apartment so it can be rented out again? And they went, sure. And they even gave her a cleaning, a crime cleaning specialist. She sensed something was wrong. And she videoed the apartment before and after the cleaning, which is kind of a way to preserve evidence. And guess what? The police lost the video. I mean, you know...
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
What else could they possibly do wrong? And I think in a bid to cover up their mistakes, they started a lie.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
It doesn't have to be anything. But I can tell you this, it's not suicide. I will address each of the points you raised in order that you raised them. Number one, sleeping meds and anti-anxiety meds. She had just seen her therapist. Why was she seeing a therapist? She was seeing Dr. Ellen Berman because shortly before her murder,
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
She had called her parents, Josh and Sandy, and asked to move home, to move out of the apartment she shared with her fiance, quit her job, and move home. She was teaching first graders. She had always loved her job and indicated nothing otherwise. Her father advised her, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, don't quit your job in the middle of the year. Finish out the term.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
And then, if you want to, then quit your job. Why she wanted to move out of the apartment with Sam remains a mystery. I don't know the answer to that. But I do know that she asked her parents and one of her best friends, Debbie, could she move in with them shortly before her death. Her mother was like, what's wrong? Why do you want to quit your job and move home with us? You know what?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
Before you do that, before you leave your job, I want you to see a therapist. I'll find you a counselor. And she did. Dr. Ellen Berman. Berman states specifically that Ellen had anxiety disorder. but was not suicidal, was not suicidal, hence the prescription for anti-anxiety pills and sleep meds. She was having trouble sleeping.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
She, Ellen, spoke to friends concerned about the effects of the anti-anxiety pill, but what effect was she worried about? Gaining weight before her wedding. That was her concern. The autopsy revealed she had a normal amount of the meds in her. There was no OD. I would also like to point out that the day of the murder, there was a blizzard. A nor'easter blew in.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
Her first graders had to go home early. Just before her death, it was questioned, why was she calling all these people on her phone? Was she crazy? The family contacted all those numbers. She called every single student's family to make sure the child got home, each child. Those were the phone calls on her phone. The people contacted, the parents said she was absolutely fine.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
There was nothing wrong. So explain to me, In the one hour before her murder, she was on the phone making sure her children got home from school. She was perfectly happy and bubbly on the phone. And the 45 minutes it took for Sam to go work out, Sam Goldberg to go work out and come back, that is not enough time, I think a jury would agree, for her to form the intent to commit suicide.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
She was still in the kitchen where she was making a fruit salad for lunch. And while she's supposed to be committing suicide with her right hand, when she was found, she still had a pristine white dishcloth in her left hand. So Megan, you believe in any world she could stab herself 20 times, including to the back of the spine, the top of the head and hold on the other hand with a clean dish towel.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
No, that did not happen.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
Not the chain. It was the kind that You pull over like that. And the person on the outside can open it like that much. It was one of those. Now, tests have been done that suggest the door was not broken in. According to others, the door was broken in. But I stand firmly on the forensic evidence. The door, broken or not broken, is another can of worms.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
But just on the physical evidence alone, and I'd like to point out that in the last months, the original medical examiner, Marlon Osborne, reversed and he says, this is not a suicide. I'm now convinced it's not a suicide. So you and I and the rest of the world and all the online haters can hash it apart as much as we want to.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
But the ME that saw the body and multiple other MEs and medical examiners state it was not suicide. The original problem was from Marlon Osborne, who after his closed door meeting where the D.A. got immunity, changed it to suicide. He's reversed. Everyone is in agreement now. It's not suicide. So why is nothing being done?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
Well, according to some reports, the doorman is Philip Hanton. And he says the fiancé came down and told him, he needed to break in the door. And Hanton said, I cannot leave this front desk. I'm in charge of this and I can't go up there. And I'm not going up there.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
Now, according to some reports, the fiance said he did have a witness that watched him break down the door and suggested it was Philip Hanton. It wasn't Philip Hanton. And as of now, we have not uncovered any employee or anyone that went with him to watch him break down the door.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
I've seen the video of him going into the workout club. It's downstairs, like a workout room. And according to the Greenberg's rep coming out in about 45 minutes, I've looked very carefully at him walking around because he then goes and gets Some mail and he's looking at his phone. It looks to me that there is sweat on the back of his shirt, but I can't tell from the black and white video.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
But I can look at the timing. He goes into the workout room and then comes out. That much I do know. So he comes home, finds her. She wasn't supposed to come home early that day, but she did because of the blizzard. He's there. He goes and works out. 45 minutes, comes back up, and she's dead. And she's cold to the touch, according to him in the 911 call. She's already cold in a warm apartment.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
Now that takes a little bit of time right there for the body temp to go down. But he says she was cold to the touch in a heated apartment in the kitchen. That presents an issue for the medical examiner as to the time of death. Why do I care about the time of death? Because that rules suspects in or out. According to the medical examiner now, this is no longer considered a suicide.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
And what we're waiting on is a local DA to relaunch the investigation. That has not happened. I don't know why. And really, gosh, you've covered so many of these. I cannot trust the Philadelphia District Attorney's Office because they've already screwed it up once. I can't trust the PA authorities. This has got to be handled by the feds. There's just really no other alternative.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
I believe at this juncture, speculating as to the identity of the killer will damage the investigation. If you think about what the police did or did not do, I'm not defending anyone or pointing the finger at anyone. I got to get this case reopened. But of course, they're going to look at the fiance. But did the parents think it was the fiance?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
The police did not determine had there been visitors in the apartment, had there been visitors in the lobby. Was there another access for visitors or intruders to get in? Had there been delivery people? Had she been stalked at school? Did anyone follow her home? Is there video surveillance in the parking lot or in the hallways or in the trash chute areas? Had she had any complaints?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
Had she had any threats? I think that the investigation was so bad. I remember a time when I was prosecuting. There was this beautiful young pre-K teacher. Her name was Julie Love. And she disappeared. And it was assumed that she was murdered. And many people called for the fiance to be indicted. It was obvious to everyone. He did it. He did it. Listen to this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
Years later, years later, like five or six years later, a woman came into the PD, police department, APD, and had been beaten horribly, assault beating. She said it was her boyfriend. Emmanuel Hammons, I still remember his name. And she said, hey, hey, hey, I got something else for you. He killed Julie Love. There was no connection between them at all. What really happened?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
Emmanuel Hammons and some of his friends were driving along, saw her, chased her, raped her, beat her, killed her, threw her body away. And you know what they found of her when they went to where the girlfriend, I directed them? They found her glass eye. Nobody even knew she had a glass eye. A glass eye and a bone. The remains of Julie Love.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
And the DA, in his wisdom, had been goaded to try and indict the boyfriend. He never did it. Thank goodness. Because someone else killed Julie Love. That is a true story. So I'm very careful about naming a would-be suspect because that's what it looks like now. I don't know what it looks like because the police did not do their job. So I need all the facts. This has to be reopened.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
I don't want to reach a convenient conclusion.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
But you got to look at the fiance, sure. Like the husband, like the ex, like the boyfriend. You always look at those closest to the victim, of course.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
I'm aware of that. I believe in light of the fact that the original medical examiner has now stated that this is not a suicide. There's really no other alternative other than this is a homicide.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
There are only a limited number of CODs, manners, manners of death. And those manners of death are suicide, accident, natural cause, undetermined, and homicide. It's obviously not natural. She didn't die of a heart attack. They've said it's not suicide. Okay. Okay. We're running out of things. Not natural, not suicide. It's clearly not an accident.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
That leaves two alternatives only, undetermined and homicide. He says it's not suicide. He's not the only one. Everyone is falling in line now and agreeing it's not suicide. Unless everyone else is a medical examiner that has inspected the body and read all the autopsy reports and every scintilla of evidence and know more than all these doctors, then it is not suicide. It is not accident.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
It is not natural causes. It's either homicide or undetermined. It's homicide. It's not a leap of faith or logic. So you need the federal DOJ to get involved here. This is where we are now. And I am not ready to point the finger at him or anybody else until we have the facts. Now, you don't normally hear me say that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Normally, I think I know exactly what happened based on the facts that we've got.
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But the problem here is that we don't have the facts. We don't have them because of the shoddy investigation. It's got to be started at the beginning, the very beginning with what we've got left. I remember having to restart a murder investigation that was tried when I was in law school. It took all the way up to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, one step below the US Supreme Court.
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It landed back in the DA's office because of, by the way, interlocking confessions, interlocking statements. They had to be ruled out and the whole thing had to be retried, severed, the two defendants separately. And I got it. When I got to the evidence room, Megan,
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There were two pieces of evidence left, an X-ray, which I couldn't make heads or tails of and didn't know who it belonged to, and a hat that said, kiss my bass. I had to start ground zero and work the case up. Got a conviction, by the way. Well, I mean, he did. Of course you did. The jury did the right thing. And that is what is happening here.
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And it's so easy to go, yeah, this means that, that means this. But that is not prudent in pursuing justice in this case. What is prudent right now is that we get an independent investigator. And the only clear cut path I see, Megan, is a Fed. And you know, I don't like the Feds either. But there are only hope. There are only hope now.
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Shapiro is tainted because he's the AG that was embroiled at the beginning, that washed his hands and turned the other way like Pontius Pilate. That's him. He did nothing. You can't have anyone connected to the earlier ADA's office. In fact, I ran down a then ADA who read the file and was waving the flag. Guys, this is not a suicide. This is not a suicide.
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Everybody knew at the time it wasn't a suicide. So where does that leave Josh and Sandy Greenberg? In a lot of pain.
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It tells me, Megan, that they're between a rock and a hard spot. Now, the judge has ruled that they may not bring in evidence of alleged autism on Kudberger's behalf in the case in chief. This is a death penalty case. It is a bifurcated trial, trial split in two. First, there's the guilt innocence phase. And if he is found guilty, which I predict he will be,
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There is in the second phase of the trial, which is the sentencing phase, where the jury will decide whether he gets the death penalty. Now, regarding autism, the defense wanted to bring in their theory that he has autism, although apparently none of the defense experts have stated thus far that he is autistic or under the spectrum. None of them have said that.
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They said they wanted to bring it in, as you surmised, because of his odd behavior. What odd behavior, the judge says. I don't see any odd behavior. He just sits there. So, therefore, that's irrelevant. If it becomes relevant, then I will review your motion again, if you choose to renew it.
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But as of right now, the only way it would be relevant is if they noted quirky or odd behavior when he takes a stand. So if you want to bring it in then sure, but he'll have to take the stand because just sitting there, I don't see any relevance. Um, however,
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If there is a guilty verdict and it goes to sentencing, I believe the judge will relent and bring in, if there is any, any expert that says he is autistic to diminish his capacity to commit a crime. Now, will it diminish his capacity to commit a crime? No, that's a big NO. Why? This guy is a PhD student. He has made stellar grades. He is actually teaching other students.
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He is not going to be deemed incapable or incompetent to commit a crime. In fact, he was obsessed with committing crimes. You know about the questionnaires he would send violent felons. went under the guise of studying criminology. How did you feel right before you did it? How did you pick your victim? How did you make your exit? In other words, how can I get out of this without getting caught?
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They're between a rock and a hard spot. His, Brian Koberger's DNA is on the knife sheath in the snap button where you put the knife in and you snap the sheath shut under a dead body. So again, rock and a hard spot. That's where they are.
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No world. No world. As far as a guilty or not guilty, no. As far as a not guilty by reason of insanity, which he's not insane, guilty but mentally ill, he's not mentally ill. There's no way that she can usurp his ability to enter a plea, either guilty or not guilty. Or an Alford, which is, I accept my sentence, but I'm not going to say I did it.
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I don't know, frankly, if the state would even go along with a guilty plea for life without parole. I'm not sure that they would do that. They are hell bent on seeking the death penalty and he's not going to plead guilty to the death penalty. To me, that means you're going to trial. Now, there is a way that the judge could enter a blind plea, which is there's no recommendation by the state.
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But I don't think they would do that either, because what if the judge said, OK, yeah, I'll take your guilty plea. You're getting the death penalty. So I don't think there's going to be a blind plea. Ann Taylor cannot plead in his behalf without his consent.
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So with the mother trying to convince him to stick with the not guilty, according to Bloom, who's written a book about the case, that is undue influence on the son, where the defense attorney wants to enter a guilty plea. That's what he's saying.