Nancy Grace

How can I believe that?

What do you mean by breadcrumb, David Richards?

When you say breadcrumb, go out on a limb with me, David Richards, joining us from blockchainunmasked.com.

A breadcrumb such as what to make me believe him?

I would go with something like, Miss Guthrie is wearing a wedding band on her left hand and a ruby solitaire on her right hand.

Or Mrs. Guthrie asked for Irish breakfast tea with skim milk heated up.

or Mrs. Guthrie is wearing her pajamas and they are red striped with candy canes, Christmas pajamas.

I mean, something that only the kidnapper or someone who sees Mrs. Guthrie would know.

That would be a breadcrumb to me.

Agree, disagree, David Richards?

With us, Brian Fitzgibbons, you know him well.

He's Director of Operations, USPA Nationwide Security, who leads a team of investigators around the world finding missing people, including extractions, including from Mexico.

He is a former Marine and an Iraqi war vet.

What would you look for in cases you have handled that would be proof this guy, the rat, knows what he's talking about?

OK, guys, more of our friend Harvey Levin.

He is describing.

notes and he says at the get go that this guy has been writing and writing and writing him.

It's like that irritating student in class.

I'm over here calling me.

Look at me.