Naomi Wolf

You're asking a horrible, tough question because I do see, you know, people pro-Palestine movement, you know, queers for Palestine.

It's such a contradiction.

It's a 10-year prison sentence in Gaza to be gay.

You know, people are tortured in Egypt for being male homosexuals.

Currently, not 20 years ago, to this day.

So I think liberals and leftists who...

think that they're being right on by supporting those cultures are incredibly ill-informed and naive, and they should get on a plane and go to those cultures and see what actually happens.

Talk to people in NGOs.

People are taking huge risks being feminists in some very woman-hating societies.

huge risks being gay rights activists in societies where gay people are thrown off of buildings or, you know, executed or sent to prison as in parts of Palestine or, you know, many parts of the Muslim world.

It's not

a joke, you know, I will never forget what I saw in Sierra Leone.

It stayed with me for the whole rest of my life.

You can spend millions of dollars trying to solve a problem, you know, problems that are so deeply cultural, you're never going to solve them.

And in sub-Saharan Africa, it's women leading NGOs who are saying, you know, 11% of decision makers in sub-Saharan Africa are girls and women because of a culture that doesn't see it as being appropriate for women to make decisions.

You're not going to be able to, you know, import those civilizations wholesale into the West.

And suddenly the men in those cultures are going to be like, okay, fine.

I was wrong this whole time.

I've seen a Hollywood movie.

I've seen a Western business woman.