Nat Towsen

And we got to get the corporatists out of the party.

That's really what it comes down to.

I want to believe that these guys are all trying to do the best thing or are out of touch or we are siloed off from the people and activists and DNC strategists are in two totally different silos and we don't know how to communicate.

I want to believe that all of that is the reason that this is breaking down.

But when you run it through the model of people are just making a lot of money and you just don't care,

It makes a lot of sense.

And I'm not the only American who thinks that.

I mean, I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not making this declaration.

No one cares.

But it's very easy to get voters burnt out with that kind of thinking.

If that makes sense, if your if your party, if your opposition party's actions can be filtered most easily through, well, they don't actually care about you until they need to win elections, then you're going to lose.

Even if that's not true, like they need.

It's like you're saying, Chad, they need to not only talk about.

who caused their problems, but what have we done and how are we going to do that more to improve your lives?

Not just like, oh, promises, but talking about how we build literal and social infrastructure for a better future and things that just can't be rolled back for Republicans in office.

But it doesn't seem, based on this autopsy or based on the direction of a lot of campaigns right now, that they're terribly interested in changing that strategy.

I think you will.

I want to touch on a couple of things you said, because I mean, so many so many valid points there.

I think just looping back really quickly, just a thing about nomenclature.

I think that America first is a term that came around with like Charles Lindbergh.