Nat Towsen

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4,712 appearances 16 recordings 2 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 9 Sep

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Um but I think that we are at a you know, you know, in place to prevent this.
But I feel like so
theme in many of the stories that we discussed, which is that uh we're dealing with the level of uh uh uh uh unsafety and uh lack of failsafes that were that are some somewhat unprecedented in at least in recent modern America.
Uh what would happen?
What would happen if, let's say, some kind of com restructuring of the government so that intellectuals and uh people with experience are gradually moved out and people without
that expertise and uh egos are more in control, hypothetically, uh were to, I don't know, change the way that we measure the SPR and we were to suddenly run out without realizing it was a coming around the bend.
What would that do to America?
I got that.
Yes.
Let's say let's say the S PR we're pulling more o oil out of the S PR to uh expand our you know, to refine more diesel and uh or to to compensate for this crisis in general that we've created, but that's neither here nor there.
Let's say that happens and then all of a sudden it's go oh, estimates were wrong, S PR is done uh today.
And it's uh you know, August.
So to be clear
So the effect for the American consumer would still be pretty rough in spite of our oil or or gas capacity not necessarily changing.
costs of shipping oil getting more expensive, things like that.
Like it drives up the price of products that are not necessarily diesel based, but are using
Or you know, even if it's not necessarily from the 'cause company paying more for shipping, it's from a company that pays that company more.
Like you're you're getting second and third order costs in ways that you wouldn't necessarily be able to track back to every rise in prices.
interconnectedness, um we talked about this mentioned it briefly at the beginning of the episode, but Trump and you know, you never know.
I don't know if this is lip service or a legitimate threat, but as we've discussed many times on this podcast, uh most people don't have the uh luxury of treating Trump's threats as anything other than real.
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