Nat Towsen

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4,712 appearances 16 recordings 2 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 9 Sep

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American Power · What Happens If NATO Falls Apart? · 15 Jul 2026 podcast

Now, of course, the thing that you're going to wait now, it's my turn to say we should divest from both of those industries as soon as possible and as soon as stably possible, I will say.

But, you know, I think if you tell me like one of the big things that you could you could criticize about NATO is this strengthening of the military industrial complex and this sort of Cold War reasoning that like, oh, we do need to continue to build to prevent.

russian dominance in the global sphere or something like that do i want russia to control the global sphere absolutely not i am anti-authoritarian however i think cold war mentality is something to watch out of watch out for as we build for also you know we start to look at threats from china not start to but we continue to look at threats from china

I think we do have to be a little bit careful.

And again, I don't see NATO as a line item anymore than I see the fire department.

So like, I don't it's not like I don't think the argument of like, should this cost money is a good way of it's not smart analysis.

But I do think it's worth criticizing that essentially financial investment in the continuation of Cold War ideology.

I think that's a little bit dangerous for it.

I'm not saying we should back out of NATO and dissolve it.

I think we need to look at

Unfortunately, we're in one of the worst administrations in history for this, but I think we need to look at the way that we approach global safety with de-escalation in mind.

And I think that's really complicated, obviously, with, you know, nuclear enemies.

Yeah.

What was your NATO bill this month?

Mine was lower than Con Ed.

Honestly, the NATO bill is not really my worry these days.

I know.

Let me share my NATO bill with my neighbors, but Netflix is shutting me down.

Hey, you know what they call NATO in France?

It's OTAN.

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