Natalie G. Winters

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5,276 appearances 30 recordings 1 series first heard Oct 2025 last heard 3d ago

Natalie G. Winters’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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But look, Steve, I was watching President Trump's speech on 9-11, all the events. matched
going on and you had the brilliant analysis, I had the same kind of outrage, which is it seems like everybody is now calling this terrorism, not Islamic terrorism. matched
We've bypassed the Obama era days where the debate used to be over radical Islamic terrorism or just Islamic terrorism, let alone just calling it Islam as they would write in the Quran calling for violence. matched
But this story I think is so emblematic of that, and I think it is incumbent on the war room to sort of push back among that rhetorical war we're seeing. matched
go on, not just among Democrats, that goes by the wayside, but even among Republicans. matched
If you can't call out 9-11 as Islamic terrorism, then it's probably going to be hard for you to go after Sharia law. matched
Let's take baby steps. matched
But this story shows that the Smithsonian Museum, the Museum of American History, if you can believe it, they have a special course for matched
For high schoolers and K through 12, there's different materials. matched
But their 9-11 programming for students centers on learning. matched
learning about, quote, victims of Islamophobia, using materials from terrorist organization CARE, the Council on American Islamic Relations. matched
And literally some of the required readings for it says that anti-sharia laws here in the United States are, quote, disturbing. matched
Linda Sarsour of Women's March fame and Rashida Tlaib are prominently profiled as, you know, rising Muslim stars. matched
And the lesson is, of course, called, quote, targeted at home. matched
And it is designed to, quote, develop empathic attitudes toward the victims of Islamophobia, helping students identify stereotypes about Muslims, examine their harm, and learn to debunk those stereotypes. matched
They're also learning how national identity, security, and patriotism have been weaponized, as Laura Ingraham was saying, in the targeting and othering of Muslims. matched
My favorite quote in all of this material, and like I said, I was digging through what they're showing these students, is literally an article lamenting that there are laws going up matched
At this point, it was a few years ago in a couple dozen states against Sharia law. matched
Now, they also quote a Vox article that it opens with, and this is a hot take. matched
I think most Americans would probably disagree, though it is Vox, so I'd expect nothing less, which is September 11th, 2001 is widely understood as a marker of deepening Islamophobia in America. matched
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