Natalie Joy

But yeah, I mean, I'm happy with where we are today.

I think we

I think it's a very good show of what we did have, the fact that we are really in a good place right now.

Yeah.

You know, we can talk about

things that break you from relationships and then just life itself, right?

Because it comes in so many different forms.

And so I think John and I had talked about that.

You know, he was really broken by his disappointment in baseball and everything.

And so I think that was where we kind of could relate to that disappointment when you really are depending on something, you really think something's going to happen for you.

And then without any control,

it just falls apart and you're just broken by that.

For me, obviously, yeah, I've lived many, many lives in some ways.

And my relationships have been

Some good, some not so good.

I think from the very beginning, not to like take up too much time, but like, you know, I had my brother pass away when I was 18.

And that was my first sort of like relationship that just broke without any expectation.

It was very sudden.

And, you know, you get the rug pulled out from under you when you have this like relationship that you're depending on and all of that.

And so that was number one.