Natalie Kitroff

From The New York Times, I'm Natalie Kitroff, and this is The Daily. In the last 48 hours, devastating wildfires have consumed more than 25,000 acres in Los Angeles, with more than 100,000 households being told to evacuate. As flames surround the city, thousands of structures have burned to the ground, and at least five people have died. Today, my colleague L.A.

From The New York Times, I'm Natalie Kitroff, and this is The Daily. In the last 48 hours, devastating wildfires have consumed more than 25,000 acres in Los Angeles, with more than 100,000 households being told to evacuate. As flames surround the city, thousands of structures have burned to the ground, and at least five people have died. Today, my colleague L.A.

Bureau Chief Karina Knoll on the fire's path of destruction. And our staff meteorologist Judson Jones on the conditions that have made them so hard to contain. It's Thursday, January 9th. Karina, we're talking to you at 4.30 p.m. Eastern on Wednesday, a day after these extraordinary fires broke out. You're in Los Angeles.

Bureau Chief Karina Knoll on the fire's path of destruction. And our staff meteorologist Judson Jones on the conditions that have made them so hard to contain. It's Thursday, January 9th. Karina, we're talking to you at 4.30 p.m. Eastern on Wednesday, a day after these extraordinary fires broke out. You're in Los Angeles.

Starting at the beginning, can you tell us what this has all looked like from the ground?

Starting at the beginning, can you tell us what this has all looked like from the ground?

Karina, help orient us a little bit. Where is that? Where is this area of the Pacific Palisades? What's it like there?

Karina, help orient us a little bit. Where is that? Where is this area of the Pacific Palisades? What's it like there?

Right. It sounds like this is a place where potentially a lot of people are in danger.

Right. It sounds like this is a place where potentially a lot of people are in danger.

And can you take us through kind of what it looks like when people start to flee that area?

And can you take us through kind of what it looks like when people start to flee that area?

That is just so surreal, and it really gives you a sense of how trapped everyone in the path of this fire felt. I mean, what do we know about the scale of the damage at this point?

That is just so surreal, and it really gives you a sense of how trapped everyone in the path of this fire felt. I mean, what do we know about the scale of the damage at this point?

Okay, so now there are multiple fires encroaching on Los Angeles. What does that feel like?

Okay, so now there are multiple fires encroaching on Los Angeles. What does that feel like?

It honestly sounds incredibly scary. Karina, what can you tell us about the efforts to fight these fires so far?

It honestly sounds incredibly scary. Karina, what can you tell us about the efforts to fight these fires so far?

Karina, you kind of mentioned that people in L.A. and in some of these areas are used to the idea of having wildfires in the area. Climate change has turned it into a kind of a hotbed for these kinds of blazes year after year. And yet it seems like the scale of this fire and the location means that people aren't just near a wildfire. They are in a wildfire and an enormous one. And

Karina, you kind of mentioned that people in L.A. and in some of these areas are used to the idea of having wildfires in the area. Climate change has turned it into a kind of a hotbed for these kinds of blazes year after year. And yet it seems like the scale of this fire and the location means that people aren't just near a wildfire. They are in a wildfire and an enormous one. And