Natalie Kitroff

Okay, just to spell this out, you're saying because China's factories are just so automated, the country's able to produce a ton of stuff, even advanced products, extremely cheaply, so cheaply that China has become almost immune to Trump's tariffs.

Okay, so I want to understand, what exactly does that automation inside China's factories look like?

Dark factory because humans aren't involved and robots don't need light to function.

So AI is doing quality control in this case?

And how does that compare to what you see in the rest of the world, to the rest of the world's factories?

How did China get to the point where it is more advanced at manufacturing than the U.S., than Germany, than Japan?

These are countries that were all known at one point for being manufacturing titans, for specializing in this.

How did China get here?

Essentially what you're saying is without immigration and with a rapidly falling birth rate, China just doesn't have enough bodies to sustain itself as the world's factory, especially as their ambitions are growing.

Why don't people want these jobs?

We'll be right back.

I think if my teenagers were to have their own logins, we could share articles.

It doesn't let us play the same games as each other.

I do the crossword.

I do the wordle.

Okay, Keith, so what exactly does China do?

How did China become, I think it's fair to say, the automation capital of the world?

And why was there such an emphasis on robotics?

Just explain that to me.

So they're not just investing in building EVs or building planes or semiconductors.