Natalie Kittroff

Can you tell me about that?

Because that seemed very important.

Okay.

I want to understand that, the substance of the disagreement between the conservatives on this, because it might not surprise people that the liberals were not backing Trump's ability to use presidential power in this way.

Help me understand how the conservatives disagreed.

And what he's saying there, and I want you to just translate it for me to put a fine point on it, is the legislative process may be cumbersome, but it is valuable and it should have been applied here.

OK, I want to turn to the practical implications of this decision.

And I know we're just beginning to digest what all of this means.

But I want to ask you, Adam, some of the questions that I think people are asking urgently at this moment, chief among them.

What happens to the tariffs now?

Are they gone?

Okay, but Adam, we also had Trump give this press conference just a little while ago, which was, even by his standards, quite strident.

And in his comments, he said he was going to double down, actually, on these tariffs that had just been ruled illegal.

He said he'd found an avenue to revive them using other authorities.

So, first of all, what did you think of the press conference?

And second, what do we know about his efforts to find a solution to the problem the court has presented him with?

And just to make sense of that, what Trump is saying he's going to do is basically revert to a plan B here that the administration can go out, find other legal justifications to pursue similar tariffs.

Is that right?

And is it fair to say, based on the way you're describing these other authorities, that they're more perhaps limited in nature, that we'd be talking more about a scalpel approach than a blunt instrument?

Okay.