Natalie Kittroff

So either way, even if Trump does pursue this kind of other route to get tariffs back in place, the Supreme Court has found that the ones that he has been implementing are not legal.

So I'm wondering what that means for all of the businesses and consumers who have been paying for the cost of these tariffs that have now been declared invalid.

Can businesses get refunds?

What are the options there?

Okay.

Okay.

So it sounds like there is a lot to sort through over the coming days and weeks.

I just want to step back, Adam, and ask, what are we to make of this Supreme Court at this moment?

I think a lot of people have this impression of the court as Trump's

He appointed three of the justices on it.

There is a six to three conservative majority.

And as you mentioned at the start of our conversation, that majority has regularly ruled in ways that favor him.

But now we have the court going against the president in a pretty major way on the pillar of his economic and in some ways his foreign policy.

So how should we interpret that?

Well, Adam, thanks so much for coming on the show.

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