Natasha Mitchell

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24,986 appearances 297 recordings 2 series first heard Jul 2005 last heard Jul 2018

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And if we think about those women who expressed forgiveness towards Eugene de Kock, doesn't forgiveness in some sense bestow some psychological power back onto the perpetrator? matched
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Hannah Arendt, the great moral philosopher who wrote about the Holocaust and spoke about the banality of evil, she wrote about this phenomenon of radical evil in the Holocaust. matched
So much so that she said that there are some events that are truly so awful that they can neither be punished or forgiven. matched
They're just too radically evil. matched
So you, in a sense, have taken your cue from her, haven't matched
interested in the ways, Pumla, in which trauma... matched
is carried across generations. matched
And this has been so potent and palpable in South Africa with the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. matched
Just as part of that, tell me about the necklace game that you witnessed amongst a group of young girls matched
what it represented for you. matched
people hadn't witnessed these murders. matched
And yet you make the point that often language doesn't always do justice to traumatic memory, and so instead we reach out for symbolic languages in a sense, which is so interesting because the Truth and Reconciliation Commission was so much about telling stories, so much about putting words to these undescribable experiences, and yet you think language... matched
falls short often. matched
Things went horribly wrong. matched
Will you talk about the transfer of inner realities between the perpetrator and their victim or their victim's relatives, which is interesting? matched
do you reflect on your exchange with Eugene de Kock now, some years later? matched
He's still in prison. matched
to and with Indigenous communities in Western Australia while you're here in Australia. matched
And what connections do you hope to make with the stories of Indigenous people? matched
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