Natasha Tiku

So there has been delegations, meetings with Google and Meta and others.

In some cases, it was about AI and

AI in children, child welfare.

You know, I was trying to talk to my editor about it, like, who got more out of this, the pope or anthropic?

I think, obviously, anthropic for now.

But I was a little bit considering that perhaps

Perhaps the Vatican was also thinking about it the way that a lot of these companies talk about it.

Unless you're on the cutting edge, you are not a significant player in the debate around how this technology should be legislated or how people should approach it.

So imagine he had an IBM executive.

I mean, imagine he had no executives, but also great.

Exactly.

That's why I think Anthropic benefited more from this, certainly.

I mean, the three things that Ola emphasized were the potential for AI exacerbating global poverty, the power balance of inequality between nations, two things where they have a lot of agency, right, and a lot of money, power, and influence about how their technology is proliferated and used.

And yet he was able to present it like...

you know, we are really concerned about this.

And like, you know, the Catholic Church has always had like a lot of influence when it comes to global poverty.

So we hope you're going to step in here.

Actually, yeah.

No, no, I'm not.

I'm just saying like that short term, it's beneficial to Anthropic to certainly be up on the dance with the Pope.