Nathan Lambert

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Lex Fridman Podcast · #490 – State of AI in 2026: LLMs, Coding, Scaling Laws, China, Agents, GPUs, AGI · 1 Feb 2026 podcast

I just keep a list of all the tech reports that I like of reasoning models.

So in chapter 14, which is kind of like a short summary of RLVR, there's just like a gigantic table where I just like list every single reasoning model that I like.

So there's just like, I think in education, a lot of it needs to be like,

At this point, it's like what I like because the language models are so good at the math where it's like famous paper, direct preference optimization, which is like a much simpler way of solving the problem than RL.

The derivations and the appendix skip steps of math.

And it's like I tried for this book, like I redid the derivations and I'm like, what the heck is this log trick that they use to change the math?

But doing it with language models, they're like, this is the log trick.

And I'm like...

I don't know if I like this, that the math is so commoditized.

I think some of the struggle in reading this appendix and following the math, I think, is good for learning.

And I...

some of the providers are starting to work on models for education, which are designed to not give, actually, I haven't used them, but I would guess they're designed to not give all the information at once and make people work to do this.

So I think you could train models to do this and it would be a wonderful contribution where like all of this stuff in the book, you have to reevaluate every decision for it, which is such a great example.

I think there's a chance you work on it at AI too, which I was like, oh, I think this would be

I was talking to maybe my fiance or friends about this.

And it's like, there's this brief 10-year window where all of the homework and all the exams could be digital.

But before that, everybody had to do all the exams in Blue Book because there was no other way.

And now after AI, everybody's going to need to be in Blue Books and oral exams because everybody could cheat so easily.

It's like this brief generation that had a different education system that everything could be digital, but you still couldn't cheat.

And now it's just going to go back.

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