Nathan Lambert
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first heard Feb 2025
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So I think that that type of moonshot to, um, branch this momentum into other, other sciences is like, okay, like that would be very transformative if like alpha fold moments happen in all sorts of other scientific fields.
domains by like a startup solving this.
I think there are startups, I think maybe Harmonic is one where they're going all in on language models plus lean for math.
I think you had another podcast guest where you talked about this recently.
And it's like, we don't know exactly what's going to fall out of
spending 100 million dollars on that model and most of them will fail but a couple of them might be big breakthroughs that are very different than chat gpt or cloud code type software experiences like a tool that's only good for a phd mathematician but makes them 100x effective like
sitting in the pace of progress, it does just feel like things are coming.
I don't think the AGI and ASI thresholds are particularly useful.
jump yeah it's like what is the GDP made up of like a lot of it is like financial services so like I don't I don't know what this is it's just hard for me to think about the GDP bump but like
I'd say that software development becomes valuable in a different way when you no longer have to look at the code anymore.
So when it is like cloud will make you a small business, which is essentially cloud can set up your website, your bank account, your email, and your whatever else.
And you just have to express what you're trying to put into the world.
That's not just an enterprise market, but it is a hard... I don't know how you get people to try doing that.
I guess if ChatGPT can do it, people are trying ChatGPT.
Computer use is a good example of what labs care about and we haven't seen a lot of progress on.
We saw multiple demos in 2025 of like, Claude can use your computer or OpenAI had Kua and they all suck.
So like, they're also investing money in this.
And I think that will be a good example where that's actually something where it just seems pretty like taking over the whole screen seems a lot harder than having an API that they can call in the backend.
And some of that is you have to then set up a different environment for the model to work in.
Like they're not working on your MacBook.
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