Naveen Jain
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard 6 Jul
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My first reaction was, if everyone believes the microbiome is so important and everyone believes the microbiome causes all these disease to happen, 10 companies probably they're doing microbiome testing, then why is this problem not getting solved? And then you go back to your first principle. What question are they asking?
And it turns out to date, every microbiome company is asking the same wrong question. So every microbiome company is trying to find out What organisms are in Ilana's gut? What organisms are in Naveen's gut? What organisms are in the gut of people who have Parkinson's or Alzheimer's or diabetes or obesity? And, you know, my first reaction was organisms are like tiny human beings.
Just like human beings, they make... behave completely differently based on the environment. So same organism will produce something good in good environment and will produce something bad in the bad environment, just like a human being. You take a human being, put them in a good environment, good behavior, put them in the bad environment, the bad behavior.
So what if we focus not on what organisms are there, but we focus on what they are producing, what they are expressing, and how it is interacting with the human gene expression If we can do that, we can solve this problem. That's all about my why this, why now, why me.
So we know now we're going to measure the human gene expression, and we're going to focus on what microbes are expressing and producing, and we're going to look at the interaction of that, and that's how we're going to solve the problem. Now comes the next part. How are you going to do this? And that's really interesting because I'm just going through the process of how I went through.
So this is literally took me, you know, 30, 45 days of just doing the research and say, all right, so now we know what needs to be done. We just don't know how. So I'm thinking this got to be the really easy thing to do. If I'm thinking about it, somebody's probably done it right. My first reaction was, you're going to think it's really crazy.
I thought, you know, NASA JPL is sending these robots to Mars looking for sign of life. They have to have figured out how you go out to figure out what these organisms are doing. So I'm going to go to the NASA JPL. I'm going to talk to the scientists and I'm going to say, hey guys, don't you already know how to do this? And can I license the technology?
And they look at me and say, nah, not really. We don't care about what organisms are doing. We just trying to figure out any sign of life there. And I'm thinking, bunch of morons. If I need to go to NASA, Houston, the headquarter, that's where they got all the good stuff. I went there, I'm touching the moon rocks. I'm talking to all the scientists, but it's still no solution.
And then I start thinking, wait a sec, I need to start looking at some of the universities. So I went to Stanford, I went to MIT, and I'm now going to Duke, and I'm looking at all the universities. There's got to be someone who solved this problem. Still, I'm out of luck. So now I'm at Lawrence Berkeley, Lawrence Livermore, all these national labs trying to find out what to do.
And they're saying, well, we're looking at multiple ways, but we don't have a solution yet. Then I was at Los Alamos National Lab. And as you recall, the Los Alamos National Lab is famous for what, Lana? What is it famous for? The big nuclear bomb, right? So they developed the nuclear bomb and they were working on their next project, which was- Fascinating story, by the way.
They don't care what organisms are there in the biological bomb. They need to figure out what they are doing, what they are producing, or what they are expressing so they can create antidote for it.
So they spent 10 years developing this technology to figure out how these microbes or these organisms in the biological bomb, what they're going to be expressing, how it's going to interact with the human body so they can protect the citizens. And I'm thinking, hallelujah, that's exactly what I need.
So all I had to do was now get the license to this technology, hire the people who actually worked on the project and build the company. And that's literally what I did. So I got the license to the exclusive perpetual license of technology. The person who was working on it, he became my chief science officer. I brought him on board.
I hired the head of IBM Watson Research, who was developing all the AI. I brought him on board, and then we started VIO. So think about it. From the concept of simply understanding that why my dad had to die, to really going through step by step and looking at this problem. and finding what needed to be done, and then finding the technology and starting a company.
And Ilana, just to complete the story, that is really what warms my heart. Seven years later, we have not only now analyzed close to 1 million samples, We, in fact, now, when we analyze your body, we look at your saliva, which is oral microbiome. We look at your stool, your gut microbiome.
We look at a fingerprint blood to look at all your mitochondria and the human gene expression in your immune system, so all the cytokines. And then we can tell you specifically now, Don't eat avocado because your uric acid is too high. It's going to end up causing you gout. Don't eat spinach or almonds right now because your oxalates are not being metabolized.
Don't eat broccoli right now because your sulfide production is too high, causing a lot of inflammation. But you can eat red wheat if you want because your TMA production is very low and your TMA is going to get absorbed in the blood and your liver is not expressing enough of FMO3. That means you're not going to produce TMAO, which causes the heart disease. You can eat red wheat, right?
So we can now tell you what foods to eat and why, what foods not to eat and why. And then we say, look, Ilana, you also need more nutrients. You need 22 milligrams of lycopene every day. You should take 18 milligrams of elderberry every day. Take 79 milligrams of amylase every day. And we go through every vitamin, minerals, herbs, digestive enzyme, amino acid.
We tell you what you need in what quantity. And we custom make those capsules for each individual. So just to show you mine. These are mine. Notice that it says manufactured on, doesn't say expires on. Every single month, it is custom made just for me. There is no two people get the same formula. Every month, I get my probiotics.
I get my oral lozenges that are made for me to adjust my oral microbiome. And Ilana, we get personalized toothpaste that are made for you in the morning and evening to adjust my oral microbiome.
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