Neal Lawson
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And I think what it tells us is there are deep structural and cultural problems about governing a society today, which are going to require a deep set of economic, cultural and intellectual ideas, organisation, alliances, you name it, in order to put right.
And you need a prime minister...
who thinks about all of that stuff.
And I think Blair thought about some of that stuff.
I think Thatcher definitely thought about some of that stuff.
And in the long march, the 100-year conversation to what Labour did in 1945, a whole load of people thought about those kind of things.
And that's the question for Burnham now.
Has he thought about those things deeply enough, or is he going to continue to think about those things deeply enough to set himself on the right course?
Well, he's certainly talking a big game.
What do you mean by that?
I think it's good to unpack it.
I mean, I think it was a body of ideas that wants to replace the state, replace democracy to a large extent, and impose the market and the nostrums of the market – competition, choice, profit –
um advantage you know for for some not just to to push the market into areas of the state but in in terms of the state to kind of commercialize that to to bring in choice and competition and but but more deeply and i think this is that this is one of the worries about andy's view about how you roll this thing back because he just sees it i think in terms of the privatized industries you change the private
Margaret Thatcher privatised water and rail and the rest of it.
And that equals rolling back.
But it was much more than just a kind of economic ownership issue.
It was a cultural issue.
It was the way that we turned from knowing ourselves as producers to understanding ourselves as consumers, to being parts of working class communities, to being individuals.
So there was a whole panoply of deep cultural changes which happened around that time.
And unless you get us back to we're citizens first before we're consumers, that we need each other, we're not just individuals, and everything about that,
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