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That's fine.

But what the ultimate goal is, how do we actually for me, how do you actually restore representative government in this country?

How do you restore the public?

How do you actually start to break apart that administrative state?

So a lot of the stuff I've been thinking about writing about for a very long time, but I think a lot of it's due to my dad's influence, but also just just that insider's perspective and watching this and going, this has nothing to do with how we were actually founded.

How do we get back to that?

And as much as anything, Vince, it was not only the conversations that I had with my dad, but it was an example.

It was an example by, I'll share a quick story.

It was 2003, the whole Medicare Part D situation in which the White House really wanted that.

And I would remind people again, Republican White House really wanted Medicare Part D. And there were about two dozen Republicans in the House that said, absolutely not.

We don't think this is the right thing.

The incredible pressure that was put on my dad, not only calls from the president while he was overseas, visits down to the White House for them to basically have their arms twisted by Dick Cheney.

And then that night of the vote, literally basically being promised anything and everything they wanted, if they would just give that vote to the president, because that's what they wanted leading into the 2004 reelection campaign.

Watching that and knowing the incredible pressure that was put on him and him being able to do the right thing and incredible pressure.

I'm understating all the pressure that took place and him being able to do the right thing in those situations.

I find it pretty awe-inspiring, but also just one of those examples where you're like, yep, he could do it.

I can do it too.

I try to be strategic about it, Vince.

there are times where I feel like it's very necessary for me to insert myself into the conversation.

So as well, listen, he'll call me after TV hits.