Neil Druckmann

In the game, we talk about things happen to Jackson. There are certain attacks, whether it's infected or raiders, but we never get to see it. Here, because we're not playing any one particular character, you could jump between this attack on Jackson and this situation that Joel found himself in.

In the game, we talk about things happen to Jackson. There are certain attacks, whether it's infected or raiders, but we never get to see it. Here, because we're not playing any one particular character, you could jump between this attack on Jackson and this situation that Joel found himself in.

And then again, showing the kind of loss you could experience in this world, both on a very personal, intimate level and on a community level. And that is something that we'll visit again in this season.

And then again, showing the kind of loss you could experience in this world, both on a very personal, intimate level and on a community level. And that is something that we'll visit again in this season.

Well, there's something about grief plus injustice that is driving her a little mad, where it's like, right, it's infecting even her dreams. It's a sort of infection.

Well, there's something about grief plus injustice that is driving her a little mad, where it's like, right, it's infecting even her dreams. It's a sort of infection.

Well, it's like, you know, we're so, I think, used to certain narrative structures, especially like Hollywood movies, where there's like a karmic justice. It's interesting, you know, you hear Craig talk about it. He's like, you're not rooting for Joel. But I know many of our audience do. And me watching the show, actually, I am rooting for Joel.

Well, it's like, you know, we're so, I think, used to certain narrative structures, especially like Hollywood movies, where there's like a karmic justice. It's interesting, you know, you hear Craig talk about it. He's like, you're not rooting for Joel. But I know many of our audience do. And me watching the show, actually, I am rooting for Joel.

Well, in a way, because I've often, right, and then making this story, I would think about what I wish I could do in Joel's position. And I wish I could act like Joel and save my daughter. And that whatever it takes. And I would try to do whatever it takes.

Well, in a way, because I've often, right, and then making this story, I would think about what I wish I could do in Joel's position. And I wish I could act like Joel and save my daughter. And that whatever it takes. And I would try to do whatever it takes.

But then the thing that we know we almost never get to see is like, okay, what about the other side? What about the doctor that is trying to save the world? And what about everybody that's close to him? Again, we just tend to paint these characters as good guys and bad guys, and they're just survivors. They're just, each person has their own motivation and

But then the thing that we know we almost never get to see is like, okay, what about the other side? What about the doctor that is trying to save the world? And what about everybody that's close to him? Again, we just tend to paint these characters as good guys and bad guys, and they're just survivors. They're just, each person has their own motivation and

their heart is kind of in the right place, right? Joel's trying to save Ellie, this doctor is trying to save the world, and Abby feels like an injustice has been done, and it must be corrected for the world to feel right.

their heart is kind of in the right place, right? Joel's trying to save Ellie, this doctor is trying to save the world, and Abby feels like an injustice has been done, and it must be corrected for the world to feel right.

And it's also important to note here that Abby could have just shot Joel and it would have been over. But that wouldn't have been enough for her because she had felt all this intense pain for all these years. Somehow, and I think we all do this to some degree, when someone wrongs us, when someone cuts us off on the highway, we have to make the other person pay in as much, if not more so.

And it's also important to note here that Abby could have just shot Joel and it would have been over. But that wouldn't have been enough for her because she had felt all this intense pain for all these years. Somehow, and I think we all do this to some degree, when someone wrongs us, when someone cuts us off on the highway, we have to make the other person pay in as much, if not more so.

One thing I have to say. This is coming on the heels of the game where you, Troy, played Joel. You had to die in this very similar way. Ashley Johnson played Ellie, and she had to react in this very similar way. And, you know, we talk about, well, how do we feel about making this?

One thing I have to say. This is coming on the heels of the game where you, Troy, played Joel. You had to die in this very similar way. Ashley Johnson played Ellie, and she had to react in this very similar way. And, you know, we talk about, well, how do we feel about making this?

I assume, Craig, you share this, but I have a nervousness of like, especially for the really important scenes that you guys did so well, Troy. that they won't live up to it, that somehow we'll fall short in the retelling of the story.

I assume, Craig, you share this, but I have a nervousness of like, especially for the really important scenes that you guys did so well, Troy. that they won't live up to it, that somehow we'll fall short in the retelling of the story.