Niall Donald

I mean, people don't say that glamorizes, you know, corporate fraud or something.

So it's a type of thing.

So as I've, you know, I've actually said it before to you, like crime reporting in particular in maybe in the...

you know, in the bigger picture of crime reporting, it's about, it's a morality play, right?

That's why people engage with it.

That's why all media organisations now are doing more crime than ever before.

It's because people read about it because there is a moral aspect to it and they relate to it thinking, you know, what would I do if my wife was cheating?

Would I kill her?

Or, you know, they relate to the morality of the individuals involved.

You know what I mean?

They think about it in those terms.

And maybe less so in this country, but investigators as well.

People can, you know, obviously in TV programs, you know, police become also their character and their, you know, what motivates them becomes a way in which it reveals the bigger story.

So what happened in The Monk is not, I don't think, personally, that there is any, you know, it shies away from saying he's a criminal, basically.

I mean, I don't think it does.

No, I don't think it does.

Exactly.

So it doesn't present him as not a criminal.

But I think what some people object to is not that they can't say that and nobody could say that.

But what they do say is underlying it all.