Niall Donald

But he will have, the reason he ultimately pled guilty, initially, I think he did, he didn't plead, but he changed his plea towards the end, just as the trial, I think, was about to begin or had begun earlier.

And so he's accepted that he knowingly, he knew this was probably going to be used to enhance some sort of criminal activity.

And he's pled guilty.

He's given a two year sentence.

Amazingly, because I remember him at the time being convicted and sort of trying to ask around and look into him, see if there was any backstory.

And look, there may well be something that we didn't hear.

But there wasn't a load of rumours around.

it's amazing that he got sucked into it, really.

Yeah.

And of course, they do like relying on these people without any criminal convictions.

I mean, these people are gold dust to them because, you know, every time presumably Liam Byrne or somebody of that nature who's well known to guards goes to an airport, it's probably logged somewhere and fed back to something.

Or if Liam Byrne meets somebody on the street in Crumlin and a guard walks by, he'll fill in a document and put it on Pulse that

Liam Byrne as being collated I mean that just is the way it is these guys though Crotty Aylmer some of these people they just wouldn't appear to be like that and the same with Declan Brady and therefore they can operate in a whole other manner and

Now, the fourth guy who gets convicted is Jason Keating.

His role is definitely at a higher level again.

He initially, I think, is charged with murder, but he accepts a lesser plea ultimately.

And when he's sentenced, actually, the judge says it's that charge, that lesser charge that he admits to.

He says that it's very useful for the courts to be able to convict people of a role that is short of pulling the trigger, basically.

But, you know, and he described Keating still to have real significance in the murder of Noel Kirwan, that he played a very significant role, that he is ultimately believed to have been present at the scene.

While he didn't pull the trigger, it couldn't happen without him.